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PONE-D-22-22046Deformable image registration for automatic muscle segmentation and the generation of augmented imaging datasetsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Henson, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 26 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors present a deformable image registration for automatic muscle segmentation and generation of augmented imaging datasets of the lower extremities. I think, this is generally an important issue to develop automated registration for the quantification of muscle and fat in the thigh and lower leg, especially in the context of sarcopenia and muscle fatty degeneration and associated diseases. Nevertheless, I have a criticisms or questions about the work. 1.) The introduction is too long, can you please shorten it. 2.) Methods: Why did you use T1 images for the segmentation. Why were MR data not acquired with fat-water separation technique ( e.g., Dixon), since intermuscular fat can be better segmented here? 3.) Methods: Why do you perform this preprocessing step, including the homogenisation of the fatty tissue. Doesn't this make it much harder to detect fatty muscle infiltration? Does not lose the accuracy of the method ? 4.) Results: I don`t feel that the image registration works very well, it seems tob e anatomically not very exact.. are are you sure it can be optimized to the point where it is anatomically accurate enough ? 5.) Results: Do you have an explanation why one of the subjects was the worst performing reference concerning the DSC. Has the subject a high BMI? 6.) Do you have an explanation why the adductor brevis and the recuts femoris made up the outliers concerning RVE.. 7.) Is it possible to evalulate more data, to find out in which cases your approach works better? 8.) You state, that this technique can provide muscle volume, but on the other hand it is not possible to provide information about muscle characteristics like is the fatty infiltration whithin the muscle, but this is an important point, as recent research showed thigh intermuscular adipose tissue appears to be a potent muscle variable related to the ability of older adults to move, more than the lean mass. So how can this method really be useful, especially because it is also not quite exact. Reviewer #2: The authors present a non-rigid registration-based approach to automatic muscle segmentation of 3D MR images of the lower limbs. The resulting deformation fields are used to create new unseen augmented images that could be suitable for training deep learning models in the future. All the data appears to be available online and available for research use (though I encourage the authors to make this info clearer in their manuscript). The work is important in the area of muscle segmentation because it is very time consuming and challenging task to complete manually. The paper is suitably written, and the results are promising. In summary, my major concern is that an overall DSC of 0.72 is not going to be sufficient for deep learning models to utilise the augmented images in order to improve muscle segmentation literature because it will form the upper limit on the accuracy of the segmentations. According to the authors literature review, other CNN models achieved 0.9 DSC, so 0.72 seems a bit low (though 0.9 DSC seems a bit high, but in accordance with the literature according to the authors own discussion point) with high variability (see whiskers of DSC box plots in Figure 5). If the authors would like to argue that this result is sufficient, they would need to show that the inter-rater variability of their manuals are of a similar level of DSC, but this will require many hours of manual segmentation, thus I suggest doing multi-atlas, improving pre-processing and comparing against a well-known registration framework in addition to the aging SHIRT framework. Specifically: 1. The accuracy of the results and the methodology of the automatic segmentation seem to hinge around the use of a single atlas approach rather than a multi-atlas approach, where multiple registrations are completed per image (already done) and final segmentations are obtained through some form of voting (e.g. STAPLE etc.) among the registered segmentations using mutual information etc. (see for example reference in the area [1]) This could be why the overall DSCs are low being around 0.72. Could the authors clarify if they used multi-atlas approach for segmentations? If not, I would strongly suggest that they do because it will not only improve the results, but in this era of deep learning, having a multi-atlas approach is a minimum in order to compete and remain relevant. 2. The authors mention in the intro that “An in-house image registration algorithm (Sheffield Image Registration Toolkit, ShIRT) has been used to segment both hard [43] and vascular [42,43] tissues with a high level of accuracy but has not yet been tested in the application of muscle segmentation.”. The authors should: a. Move this to the methods section as this is among the most critical parts of the paper. The accuracy and quality of the segmentations depend on this info and it’s methodology explanation is fractured in the paper. b. This is very little mention of the mechanism behind the registration algorithm and relevant citations of the registration type utilised unless I missed it. Is it based around optical flow or free form deformation etc? c. Justify why other registration algorithms were not explored or compared against. Very mature and open source (which SHIRT does not appear to be?) and most importantly parallel frameworks such as VoxelMorph, Elastix, NiftiReg or ITK. d. Given the low DSC of the results, and the age of SHIRT, I’m inclined to request that the authors add a comparison to one of these registration frameworks, unless the multi-atlas approach is able to provide a reasonable improvement of the results. 3. The authors mention “To the best of the authors’ knowledge, this study represents the first attempt to segment complete 3D muscle geometry of many individual muscles simultaneously using deformable image registration while using different subjects as the reference.” Only in the discussion section. I urge the authors to add more clearer novelty statement such as this earlier in the manuscript, such as the end of the intro where the aim is first introduced. 4. It didn’t seem that the authors utilised the remaining 6 of the 11 patients for segmentation (5 were manually segmented and used for evaluation). Could not the 5 manual segmentations used to bootstrap further manual (or automatic) segmentations of the remaining 6 subjects or were these only used for generating the augmentation? 5. I could not see the use of bias field correction methods such as N4. It would seem to be that MR images of such wide field of view would be significantly affected by bias fields. Can the authors comment if they used it? If not I would strongly suggest using it because it could also improve the segmentation accuracy quite a bit since registrations will be more accurate. 6. Table 1 should really be in the results section because it presents the results of the manual segmentations. 7. The literature review seems rushed with many references being cited for single points. For example: “The large variability of muscle volume and geometry within the lower limb skeletal muscles between subjects, even within cohorts with similar anthropometric characteristics, limits the application of SSM to segment these muscles [15,29,30,31].” And “Many different automatic segmentation methods have been investigated within the literature in recent years to replace the manual approach [21,24,25,27].” It would be good to expand a few of these types of sentences to give more details about some of these works. 8. I also could not determine if there was an initialisation of the deformable registration. Was it an affine or rigid registration? What was the optimizer and similarity metric used? These technical details of the registration methods are important for reproducibility and I would request a sub-section in the methods or results dedicated to it. Apologies in advanced if I missed anything. References [1] S. Klein, U. A. van der Heide, I. M. Lips, M. van Vulpen, M. Staring, and J. P. W. Pluim, “Automatic segmentation of the prostate in 3D MR images by atlas matching using localized mutual information,” Medical Physics, vol. 35, no. 4, pp. 1407–1417, 2008, doi: 10.1118/1.2842076. Reviewer #3: Muscle segmentation is relevant to many medical fields (aging, musculoskeletal and neuromusculoskeletal disorders). The limitations of traditional segmentation are pointed out clearly (excessive interaction time, low inter-operator agreement). Recent advances in deep learning-based methods have brought about questions regarding the underlying datasets. The gerneration of augmented datasets is therefore a very important activity to further increase the power of such methods. Both visual and statistical inspection of the results show moderate results with room for improvement in certain areas. As indicated in the conclusion of the paper, comparing ShIRT to deep learning-based methods (e.g., VoxelMorph) may provide valuable insights. ********** 6. 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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Although the segmentation seems to work not really exact as the authors stated by themselves, it is an interesting paper and an innovative approach. All comments have been adressed. Reviewer #3: When generating augmented imaging datasets, are you planning on collecting/providing metadata? Something along the lines of https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3458723 I'm looking forward to hearing about your future work. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #3: No ********** |
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