Peer Review History
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PONE-D-22-01301Neural Correlates of Thematic Role Assignment for Passives in Standard IndonesianPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Jap, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The study has been evaluated by two independent Reviewers that found your study novel and worth to be pursued. They also raised a number of issues that I would like to be addressed before acceptance. please consider them carefully providing a point-by-point response. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jun 09 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Does the manuscript provide a valid rationale for the proposed study, with clearly identified and justified research questions? The research question outlined is expected to address a valid academic problem or topic and contribute to the base of knowledge in the field. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Is the protocol technically sound and planned in a manner that will lead to a meaningful outcome and allow testing the stated hypotheses? The manuscript should describe the methods in sufficient detail to prevent undisclosed flexibility in the experimental procedure or analysis pipeline, including sufficient outcome-neutral conditions (e.g. necessary controls, absence of floor or ceiling effects) to test the proposed hypotheses and a statistical power analysis where applicable. As there may be aspects of the methodology and analysis which can only be refined once the work is undertaken, authors should outline potential assumptions and explicitly describe what aspects of the proposed analyses, if any, are exploratory. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 3. Is the methodology feasible and described in sufficient detail to allow the work to be replicable? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors described where all data underlying the findings will be made available when the study is complete? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception, at the time of publication. The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above and, if applicable, provide comments about issues authors must address before this protocol can be accepted for publication. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about research or publication ethics. You may also provide optional suggestions and comments to authors that they might find helpful in planning their study. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: SUMMARY The authors report the design and motivation of an ERP study in standard Indonesian compare active and passive structures. The authors explain the rationale for the study, namely that previous ERP studies of canonical vs. noncanonical structures are often confounding structure with frequency, whereas in Indonesian the passive is much more frequent on average (and, for some verbs, apparently the preferred structure). This allows the authors to ascertain whether the standard ERP effects of grammatical, noncanonical structures relative to grammatical, canonical ones is due to the underlying structural alternation or frequency. The authors detail the design, involving 100 active/passive sentences along with 100 filler structures, including detailed EEG data collection procedure and analysis pipeline. EVALUATION The study is well-motivated and the experimental design is rigorous. The manuscript is clearly written. I have no major concerns, and look forward to seeing the results of the study. As a side comment, I appreciate that the inclusion of such an under-studied language is nicely scientifically motivated, given the gaps in the existing literature. I do have some minor comments below. MINOR I did not notice where the data will be made available upon study completion. The discussed on animacy on page 8, lines 174-176 seemed unnaturally truncated, with the sentence about Meltzer and Braun (2013) feeling quite out of context and unfinished. Table 1 was a bit unclear; the study by Meltzer and Braun (2013) is set off with different headers, but not much explanation is provided to understand what this means. In general, the whole table needs to be fleshed out more to indicate what to expect in each column of the listed studies. It might be worth considering additional fillers beyond the question structure to draw attention away from the critical active/passive structures in declarative sentences. It might be worth inserting triggers for every word position in order to allow other possible analyses, e.g. a “sanity check” at NP1 in order to indicate that there are no baseline differences between conditions, etc. Why not just use triggers for every position (just in case)? page 5, examples 2 and 3 are translated the same way, but as I understand it, the roles should be reversed between these two sentences given the nominative case on ‘guitar player’ in (2) and accusative case on ‘guitar player’ in 3. page 16, line 367 – typo, I believe “shown on the in between trials” should probably be “shown on the screen in between trials” Reviewer #2: The manuscript proposes a study with the goal to investigate the involved processes as indexed by ERP components when reading well-formed sentences in active and passive structures. From the provided document, their main goals are to 1) identify ERP components indexing thematic role assignment (or find that such a component does not exist) and 2) disentangle the various components for various languages reported in the literature. Novel to prior research, their study investigates Indonesian as a language for which the passive structure is much more commonly used as in the previously investigated languages, thus, eliminating frequency effects that might have tainted previous research. This approach of disentangling the effects of thematic role assignment from the potentially confounding frequency effect appears reasonable and highly interesting. However, I would like to share some concerns and notes that arose when reading the manuscript: Major comments: 1) According to the guidelines, the authors are supposed to describe where the data will be available. While the authors state that they are planning to make the data available, they do not mention where. 2) The authors mention that the stimuli will be pretested for acceptability. In order to avoid a potential confound, I would suggest also pretesting for prototypicality. In their example in Table 2, the police is the patient of the shooting while the robber is the agent. This seems potentially unproblematic, but judging from the material list, there might be cases where there is a preferred role assignment based on the involved entities. Depending on whether this preference is met or not, potential effects could be evoked. 3) While the authors convincingly explain their planned method of data processing starting in line 425, I see potential issues with the baseline correction approach, especially in regards to the NP2. As the NP2 is immediately following the Verb, the baseline correction will be conducted on potential effects in the verb region. This is especially an issue because a P600 effect is even predicted for the verb region. This issue is also directly related with another concern: The presentation rate (500 ms + 100 ms) puts the onset of the NP2 directly into the P600 time-window of the verb. The epoch length for the planned ERP analysis with 1000 ms after stimulus onset thus also contains the onset of the NP2. This might pose a problem for both time-windows: the P600 could be shifted by early effects evoked by the NP2 while early effects on the NP2 could suffer from the underlying wave form of the P600. In that regard, I was wondering if Indonesian allows to fill the position between the verb and NP2 with e.g., temporal adverbs or similar that could be kept constant across conditions in order to create a longer distance between the verb and NP2 and, thus, minimize the overlap of effects from different regions and the baseline correction issue. 4) Related to the previous point, I was wondering about the necessity to keep the semantic content of the passive and active structures identical. Currently, the swap from active and passive leads to a swap of the NP2 as well, because the “robber” (from the example) maintains the role of the shooter. This leads to a target manipulation which does not seem particularly necessary in this case, given that both entities similarly reasonably could take the active and passive role in the sentence. Judging from the material section, it appears as though the authors paid attention to follow this premise. This also again ties in with the earlier mentioned pretest. I believe that, in general, avoiding a target manipulation, when possible, should be preferred. While I understand concerns regarding the change of the semantic content of the sentence, it appears to me that this would be possible here in favor of “cleaner” comparisons. 5) The Predictions section should be fleshed out more. While the authors specifically state predictions for the P600 component in the verb region, for the NP2 region they only mention a “generalized” increase of processing cost. Also, it is not clear to me whether prediction 3 (l. 505) is stated in regard to the NP2, the verb or both. Given their literature review, it would be nice to see the predictions again being put into that context. Which time-windows are they considering? In favor of which interpretation/research would a component (or the lack of a component) be? Lastly, a comparably minor comment in relation to the predictions: The authors acknowledge the difference between certain languages, as for example that Basque and Japanese do not provide thematic information on the verb, while Indonesian entirely provides this information on the verb. As the region which allows for thematic assignment thereby shifts and might be entangled with different processes that are inherent to the respective region, a direct comparison of effects (or the lack of effects) might be a bit problematic. I agree that their planned study could highly contribute to the field and would yield valuable new insights, but a direct comparison should still be done with caution. Minor Comments: 1) As the authors discussed research on Japanese, I was thinking of a more recent study by Yano and Koizumi (Yano, M., & Koizumi, M. (2018). Processing of non-canonical word orders in (in) felicitous contexts: Evidence from event-related brain potentials. Language, Cognition and Neuroscience, 33(10), 1340-1354.). While they investigate the effect of givenness in combination with word order, their findings might potentially enrich the discussion of the current study and provides a more recent reference to the study of word order in Japanese. Especially, as a focus of the literature review was put on studies on well-formed sentences. 2) I am not very familiar with the means of analysis planned by the authors. From my understanding, the cluster-level test statistic is not the standard in the literature. As such, I think it would be helpful if this section could be expanded a bit more. 3) The sentence staring at line 348 appears to be erroneous. 4) The sentence in line 367 is missing a word (“a fixation cross will be shown on the in between trials and sets.”) ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). 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PONE-D-22-01301R1Neural Correlates of Thematic Role Assignment for Passives in Standard IndonesianPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Jap, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it is essentially ready to be accepted for publication -- there's just a clarification point raised by Reviewer 1 (and Reviewer 2 suggested that some of your points were better articulated in the letter than in the manuscript). Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that fixes this. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 04 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Does the manuscript provide a valid rationale for the proposed study, with clearly identified and justified research questions? The research question outlined is expected to address a valid academic problem or topic and contribute to the base of knowledge in the field. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Is the protocol technically sound and planned in a manner that will lead to a meaningful outcome and allow testing the stated hypotheses? The manuscript should describe the methods in sufficient detail to prevent undisclosed flexibility in the experimental procedure or analysis pipeline, including sufficient outcome-neutral conditions (e.g. necessary controls, absence of floor or ceiling effects) to test the proposed hypotheses and a statistical power analysis where applicable. As there may be aspects of the methodology and analysis which can only be refined once the work is undertaken, authors should outline potential assumptions and explicitly describe what aspects of the proposed analyses, if any, are exploratory. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Is the methodology feasible and described in sufficient detail to allow the work to be replicable? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors described where all data underlying the findings will be made available when the study is complete? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception, at the time of publication. The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above and, if applicable, provide comments about issues authors must address before this protocol can be accepted for publication. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about research or publication ethics. You may also provide optional suggestions and comments to authors that they might find helpful in planning their study. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I appreciate the revisions and think it essentially looks good, but I still am confused about sentence examples (2) and (3) on page 5. The provided English translations are identical for these two sentences ~"the guitar player discovered the singer", implying that the semantic roles are identical in the two sentences. But, as I understand it, the case marker on guitar player is different (nominative in (2), and accusative in (3)), which implies that the semantic roles should be reversed between (2) and (3), such that the translation for (2) should be as indicated, but the translation for (3) should be something like "the gifted singer discovered the talented guitar player". If so, then this needs to be revised accordingly. Unless I am missing something. Reviewer #2: The authors thoughtfully and satisfyingly addressed the raised concerns and comments. I think that the predictions were more clearly explained and easier to follow in the response than in the manuscript, but I don’t think this necessitates changes to the manuscript. Overall, I think this will be a very interesting study and wish the best to the authors. I’m looking forward to the future results. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: Yes: William Matchin Reviewer #2: Yes: Torsten Kai Jachmann ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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