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PONE-D-21-39820Neural correlates of perceiving and interpreting engraved prehistoric patterns as human production: effect of archaeological expertise.PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Mellet, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jun 10 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. 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(Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This is a welcome article which, if only to an extent, puts to rest the debate concerning the neural perception of engraved prehistoric marks. It mainly takes its cue from the 2019 article by some of the same authors, ‘Neuroimaging supports the representational nature of the earliest human engravings’, R Soc Open Sci. Indeed, the most important claim and conclusion of this article rests in rebuking the involvement of the primary visual cortex or low-level visual areas in the perception of the engravings. I have some misgivings, however, concerning how the experiment was carried out. The experiment involved expert and non-expert participants who were asked to recognize human vs natural (non-human made) engravings on 21 prehistoric archaeological objects. Here a few reservations and questions, as follows: 1. How was the sample of the prehistoric objects selected? It is not clear, at least to me, what criteria were used. 2. Number of participants to the experiment are low. Of course, out of 15-16 participants the margins of error will skew the overall results substantially: all it takes is one participant to the experiment to get an answer wrong and the percentage results plummet. 3. I feel it should be stressed how including experts can be an advantage in reaching neutral results. The authors claim that they wanted to estimate the effect of familiarity and prior knowledge. But I see no empirical advantage in doing this (and even despite this, it is surprising that only 81% of the expert participants gave correct answers, but see above 2). This feels very circular to me, even when it comes to the main research question: of course, experts will recognize the human-made marks and will have a neural activation that involves the visual areas in the OTC, the occipital pole and part of the left fusiform gyrus. In other words, it is expected that the effect of expertise will be felt in the perception of abstract marks, whether low-level visual areas are involved or not. 4. Contrasting experts vs non-experts feels, therefore, inconsequential to the research question. If advanced expertise will (and does) condition the results, a contrast with results from non-experts will lead to clearly biased conclusions or a warped dichotomy, the very half of which is patently expected. 5. The two questions that the authors asked the participants are Attribution (human-made or not) and Orientation (‘is the longest axis of the medium on which the marks are present vertical?’). This latter point is not explained, nor is its importance stated clearly- what role plays verticality? This should be clarified. Partially tied to this are the criteria upon which the participants based their decisions in the debriefing session: how do marks relate to the orientation? Reviewer #2: The authors present an analysis about the neural correlates of perception, recognition and interpretation of Palaeolithic engravings compared with patterns of unintentional origin by experts (archaeologists) and non-experts to assess the communicative potential of the engravings. Analyses carried out with a rigorous protocol show that there is a clear ability by both experts and non-experts to discriminate between patterns of natural and intentional origin. Interestingly, the analysis highlights the activation in the perception and interpretation of archaeological patterns of brain areas afferent to the ventral pathway of the brain related to the integration and semantic interpretation of visual data. While the primary visual cortex is involved at limited extent. This is an important result because it allows to exclude that the engravings are the expression of kinaesthetic dynamics as proposed by previous authors. The analyses show a difference between experts and non-experts in the brain areas involved in the perception and interpretation of Palaeolithic engravings compared to natural patterns. In particular, in interpreting patterns as natural, archaeologists show a greater involvement of the so-called salience network involved in decision making processes. This is interpreted by the authors as an effect of familiarity and awareness in performing actions. It is interesting (as counterintuitive) that this network is activated in experts more in the attribution of natural rather than intentional activities. However, this result lends itself to some criticism that the authors have not duly justified in the current version of the article. In particular, there is an unresolved bias related to the fact that the experts' response may be linked not to familiarity with the actions required to create meaning-bearing engravings but to mere prior knowledge of them. In fact, in the analyses were used Palaeolithic engravings, which were well known to archaeologists. It cannot therefore be excluded that this initial recognition (or non-recognition in the case of natural patterns) strongly conditioned their choice and the neurophysiological response. The greater activation of the fusiform gyrus in the archaeologists would suggest a holistic recognition (as reported by the same authors) of the patterns in which the influence of a previous knowledge of the same cannot be excluded. Even the very high percentage of correct attributions by the archaeologists suggests that phenomena of prior knowledge interfere with the results. The low level of negative responses may be linked to the small number of expert individuals tested (n=15). From this point of view, it would be advisable (if possible) to increase the sample size of expert and non-expert groups. Other criticisms include the fact that the authors use Palaeolithic engravings of different chronological ages and geographical origins without providing adequate information about them. The engravings shown result in a heterogeneous group referring to different human populations with possible differences in cognitive abilities. In Europe, the engravings are mainly parallel in pattern, whereas African engravings often show cross-patterns; this information should be discussed when discussing the relevance (or otherwise) of the orientation in the tasks of recognition of the engravings. In summary, although interesting and methodologically rigorous, this study cannot be published until the expert group bias has been resolved. The authors should provide valid and proven arguments to exclude the possibility that other cognitive processes related to the prior knowledge about the carvings shown could make the results so ambiguous and biased in their interpretation. ********** 6. 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