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PONE-D-21-35940The assessment of fundus image quality labeling reliability among graders with different backgroundsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Somfai, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 09 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Overview Thank you for giving me the opportunity to review the article. I hope the following suggestions will be helpful and will strengthen the work. The study evaluates the image quality assessment of color fundus photographs among graders with medical and non-medical backgrounds. The topic is interesting and relevant considering the scarcity of labeled data for the development of machine learning models and the importance of imaging quality for the accuracy and applicability of the algorithms. The manuscript is generally well presented, but there are several issues which needs to be addressed: Major comments Page 4, line 51-60. Quotation marks should be used for direct quotes. Consider rewriting the first paragraph of the Introduction as the following sentences were written using the same words as the references: - Page 4, line 51. “Medical imaging is expanding globally at an unprecedented rate leading to an ever-expanding quantity of data that requires human expertise and judgement to interpret and triage”. De Fauw et al (2018). - Page 4, line 55. “Benchmark datasets are essential for computational research in healthcare. These datasets should be created by intentional design that is mindful of social and health system priorities. If a deliberate and systematic approach is not followed, not only will the considerable benefits of clinical algorithms fail to be realized, but the potential harms may be regressively incurred across existing gradients of social inequity.” (T. Panch et al. 2020) The study was conducted “in an effort to model the democratization of retinal image labeling” (page 5, line 78). To do that, the authors use a phyton grading tool that requires some degree of programming knowledge (page 8, line 162), which could make it difficult for people without specific computing skills to participate in the image labeling process. The imaging grading criteria used in the study take into consideration anatomical structures (e.g., optic nerve head, fovea and macula), and imaging artefacts (e.g., eyelashes and fingerprints) whose identification require a clinical background or specific training and a certain degree of experience. According to the authors, “prior to grading the participants received a tutorial consisting of oral explanation of the task, supported by a pdf document describing the grading system with sample images and the description of the GUI.” (Page 6, line 120). In addition to the tutorial on image quality requirements, has any training been carried out to enable participants to recognize retinal structures and artefacts? If yes, detailed information on how the training was carried out should be provided (e.g., hours of training and grading guidelines). If not, the interpretation of the grading criteria by participants without medical background would be affected, as well as the results of the study. Page 7, line 130. Was the agreement calculated between study participants or between each participant and the ground truth (i.e., expert’ labels)? Was the weighted kappa applied to assess agreement when grading image quality (an ordinal outcome)? Page 9, line 186. “The time necessary for the first 50 images was higher than for the last 50 images which shows the learning curve of the grading task.” Based on the data presented, it is not possible to conclude that faster grading is a consequence of the learning curve as there are other possible explanations for this result (e.g., grading fatigue). Minor comments Page 2, line 28. “The performance of the grading was timed and the accuracy was assessed. Accuracy was also assessed with the excellent and good categories merged.” Since kappa is not a measure of accuracy, it is not possible to say that the accuracy was assessed. Page 2, line 32 and page 7, line 140. Please define the abbreviations “GM” and “GN” on first use in the abstract and in the main text. To follow a similar logic of the abbreviation of the terms “medical” and “non-medical” (i.e., N and NM, respectively), consider changing the abbreviation from GN to GNM. Page 2, line 35 and page 8, line 149. “The median time for single decision was in all categories longer in the GN group (5,28 [4.91-5.66] vs. 4.75 [4.31-5.18] sec, 6.33 [5.96-6.71] vs. 4.10 [3.95-4.26] sec, 5.74 [5.31-6.17] vs. 4.60 [4.27-4.93] sec, 3.01 [2.83-3.20] vs. 3.87 [3.67-4.06] for the E, G, A and I, in the GN and GM groups, respectively).”. Is the median time of 3.01 seconds related to the GM group? If yes, consider placing this number after the median time of 3.87 seconds, as in the previous categories (i.e., E, G and A) the median time of the GN group was mentioned first. Page 2, line 39. The Cohen’s kappa coefficient for NM mentioned in the text (i.e., 0.376) does not match the coefficient mentioned the Table 2 for the same group (i.e., 0.348). Please clarify. Page 4, line 54. “Machine Learning (ML) has emerged as an important tool for healthcare, particularly when it comes to training”. Please explain better this sentence. Page 4, line 73. There is no need to abbreviate “optical coherence tomography” as the authors don’t use the abbreviation elsewhere in the text. Page 6, line 99 and Table 1. Please explain better when the criteria “Artefacts” is fulfilled. Is the presence of any artefact enough to meet the criteria? Or, as in the EyePACS grading system, the criteria is fulfilled when the image is “sufficiently free of artifacts (such as dust spots, arc defects, and eyelash images) to allow adequate grading”? In the latter case, clinical knowledge would likely be needed to allow judgment of which artefacts are clinically significant to interfere with grading. Page 6, line 105. “The images were previously labeled for image quality by two experts (KLLF and GMS) using the standards described above.” It would be interesting to know more about the expertise level of the graders KLLF and GMS (e.g., are they ophthalmologists or retina specialists?) and how the disagreements between them were resolved (e.g., arbitration, adjudication). According to Krause et al (2018), when establishing a reference standard, these factors can affect grader variability. Page 6, line 103. Please explain better when the image is graded as “Insufficient for grading”. If, for a given image, all 4 quality criteria are not met, when will this image be classified as “insufficient” instead of “adequate”? Page 8, line 166. “There was no consensus among our graders on the importance of the missing optic nerve head”. Please clarify this sentence and why there was a lack of consensus as the optic disc head is one of the key anatomical features in the color fundus photograph and is part of the image field criteria. Page 9, line 175. Consider rewriting this sentence and using short statements to better express the information. Page 9, line 182. Consider removing “relatively high number of participants with non-medical background” as only 4 subjects were included in this group. Page 9, line 189. “In the good, adequate and insufficient groups the grading took longer for the participants without medical background.” Please clarify this sentence as in the results section (page 7, line 150) the authors mention that “the median time for single decision was in all categories longer in the GN group”, including the category “excellent”. Page 9, line 192. “Our results show that a high level of repeatability can be achieved already by a very short training period and smaller set of retinal photographs, even in the case of medically untrained people.” Repeatability may not be the most appropriate term because it refers to the variation in repeat measurements made by the same instrument or method over a short period of time (Barlett and Frost 2008). This does not seem to be the case of this study, in which the experiment (i.e., grading of multiple images) was performed only once. Page 10, line 202-215. Consider removing these two paragraphs as they contain information already mentioned in the introduction rather than the context and relevance of the results. Page 11, line 235. “In our study, it took non-medical graders in median 17 minutes to grade the first 200 images”. Please remove the word “first” as there were only 200 images in the dataset. Page 11, line 235 and 247. Based on the data presented, it is not possible to conclude that faster grading is a consequence of the learning curve. Page 11, line 236-238. Remove commas after “estimate” and “ophthalmology”. Page 11, line 242. “We included only 9 volunteers for the assessment of the labeling task”. Please clarify the number of study participants as in the method section the authors mention (Page 6, line 117) that the images were evaluated by 8 volunteers. Page 12, line 264-267. “With the increasing role of crowdsourcing in numerous projects harnessing human intelligence, in the context of health-care data the question arises how safe is it to leave diagnosing a medical condition to “untrained” personnel or rather use a machine to perform this task.” Consider rewriting this sentence and using short statements to better express the information. Page 12, line 270. Please add a conclusion supported by the study results as the last paragraph contains mainly general statements rather than a conclusion about the work itself. References Krause, Jonathan, Varun Gulshan, Ehsan Rahimy, Peter Karth, Kasumi Widner, Greg S. Corrado, Lily Peng, and Dale R. Webster. 2018. “Grader Variability and the Importance of Reference Standards for Evaluating Machine Learning Models for Diabetic Retinopathy.” Ophthalmology 125 (8): 1264–72. Bartlett, J. W., and C. Frost. 2008. “Reliability, Repeatability and Reproducibility: Analysis of Measurement Errors in Continuous Variables.” Ultrasound in Obstetrics & Gynecology: The Official Journal of the International Society of Ultrasound in Obstetrics and Gynecology 31 (4): 466–75. Reviewer #2: The largest weakness of this study is in the task chosen to assess grader agreement. Image quality is inherently subjective. Even when provided with a grading guideline. Why not instead pick a more objective task to evaluate grader agreement? Furthermore you do not describe how ground truth was arbitrated or adjudicated between the two specialists, this crucial. Due to the inherent subjectivity of this task, the author's should have graders select each criteria as y/n (adequate focus, artefacts, etc), then compile and codify to your quality grades. Otherwise, I see this as a poor study design (as the graders likely are not following the guidelines well, letting their subjective "quality" biases dominate, and leading to a poor kappa). Much easier to pick a different task to evaluate agreement. We're there contrast and brightness adjustments in the grading tool? How was the ground truth set it arbitration adjudication etc Line 164 . Please explain what is meant exactly by: Each participant reported positively on the learning experience. Line 176 please clarify why this is semi automated here and throughout, is there active learning? I'm not sure how this is automated and would avoid this buzzword. Line 192, please remove repeatability, you did not test this here, you tested agreement Results: Please emphasize Kappas, they are not reported here.. that's the main outcome, not the times in my opinion. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes: Edward Korot [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I appreciate the authors’ effort to address the suggestions. The adjustments (e.g., changes in statistical analysis and more details about the grading protocol) significantly improved the manuscript. Just one minor comment: Page 9, line 209. Please replace “repeatability” with “agreement” as “repeatability” was not tested in this study. Reviewer #2: Thanks for addressing all comments, the manuscript is now much improved. I appreciate the thoroughness of additional analyses. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. 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