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Original SubmissionFebruary 18, 2022
Decision Letter - Pew-Thian Yap, Editor
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PONE-D-22-05034The risk of bias in denoising methodsPLOS ONE

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Reviewer #1: The author highlights the bias introduced by denoising and that lower MSE with respect to the ground truth does not always mean lower bias. Overall, the manuscript was well written with comprehensive demonstrations of the bias after denoising with different methods.

My main concerns are

1. Is bias bad? Unbiased estimator does not always exist and sometimes biased estimator can lower MSE [1,2,3] (similar to Fig. 1, top right). While Fig.3 clearly indicates bias changes the shapes of the estimated HRF, Fig. 2 is not as clear. Gaussian smoothing introduced larger bias compared to anisotropic smoothing but is it bad and how it would affect, for example, clinical diagnosis? Except from the fact the Gaussian smoothing images are blurry (which is uncorrelated to bias), it is still unclear how the bias is dangerous in this case. Perhaps showing an example of bias can obscure a structure of interest (tumor) would highlight the point.

2. How bias affect downstream analyses? Continuing point 1 above, some subsequent analyses should be done to highlight how bias would affect the results and how severe it could be. In the context of MRI in this paper, it could be segmentation from sMRI, correlation between stimuli and signal from fMRI, or tensor fitting and tractography from dMRI. Without subsequent analyses, although we acknowledge there is a bias, it is still unclear whether we should spend effort removing it with the cost of increasing variance (e.g., using parametric fit instead of basis restriction in Fig.3).

3. Is MSE still a good performance measurement? It is obvious that smaller bias and variance are favored. But in case of a trade-off between variance and bias like many methods shown in this work, is measuring bias alone a good practice? MSE accounts for both bias and variance and is a good measure to balance out the two terms, especially when to determine in a decrease in bias/variance worth it (given an increase in the other one). Again, this highlights the importance of demonstrating how bias would affect the images visually and subsequent analyses. If it does not affect those significantly, it might be sufficient to quantify MSE alone.

Minor comment:

While the title is "The risk of bias in denoising methods", 2 out of 3 experiments are MRI-related. The title and the abstract should make clear that the manuscript experiments are limited to MRI data.

Although experiments are meant to demonstrate how bias would be introduced, the paper is undermined that little to no state-of-the-art denoising method was used (while they are mentioned and discussed many times throughout the manuscript).

[1] Eldar, Yonina C. Rethinking biased estimation: Improving maximum likelihood and the Cramér-Rao bound. Now Publishers Inc, 2008.

[2] Chatterjee, Priyam, and Peyman Milanfar. "Is denoising dead?." IEEE Transactions on Image Processing 19.4 (2009): 895-911.

[3] Kay, Steven, and Yonina C. Eldar. "Rethinking biased estimation [lecture notes]." IEEE Signal Processing Magazine 25.3 (2008): 133-136.

Reviewer #2: This work studies the risk of bias in denoising methods. More specially, denoising methods may introduce bias, which has risks leading to incorrect scientific inferences. To investigate the denoising-induced bias, three simulation experiments are performed, which draw three key conclusions and the importance of quantifying the possibly denoising-induced bias. The paper is well written and easy to follow. The conclusions from this work can benefit a large number of denoising works and provide valuable guidance for the use of denoising methods. Regarding this work, I only have several minor concerns.

1. The first simulation is based on Gaussian noise corrupted MR images. However, depending on the k-space data acquisition schemes and reconstruction approaches, the noise in MR images follows a stationary/non-stationary Rician/non-central Chi noise [1,2]. I am wondering whether the Gaussian noise assumption has some influences on the experimental results.

2. It is also helpful to provide some insightful discussions on how to define a good denoising method, which can benefit the medical image computing community.

[1] Statistical Analysis of Noise in MRI.

[2] Denoising of Diffusion MRI Data via Graph Denoising of Diffusion MRI Data via Graph Framelet Matching in x-q Space

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Decision Letter - Pew-Thian Yap, Editor

The risk of bias in denoising methods: examples from neuroimaging

PONE-D-22-05034R1

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PONE-D-22-05034R1

The risk of bias in denoising methods: examples from neuroimaging

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