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PONE-D-22-02819Tufas indicate decoupling of water availability and human occupation in the southern KalahariPLOS ONE Dear Dr. von der Meden, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ============================== The two reviewers greatly appreciated your work and conclusions and I also agree that your paper meets the standard of publication required by PLoS ONE, pending minor comments. Among the suggestions from the two reviewers, I would remark that the tight dichotomy wet/dry (interglacial/glacial) in the formation of spring tufa (and also speleothems) in arid regions is simplistic and many studies are confirming this. In my experience in the hyperacid Sahara and arid Dhofar Mountains of Oman, I noticed that even today spring tufa form, evidently with different sedimentary patterns respect to when they formed during pluvial phase. I would appreciate (as suggested by Rev2) a deeper discussion on this topic, confirming that dealing with spring tufa requires to do beyond the equation wet->deposit, dry->no deposition. ============================== Please submit your revised manuscript by Apr 21 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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My suggestions are therefore relatively minor, in terms of the interpretation. This is a question of minor revisions in my opinion. The authors do a good job at showing an interesting palaeoenvironmental story in terms of tufas. But I am dubious about what this says about decoupling of humans and water. So I think this aspect of interpretation should be removed, and the paper will be stronger. The key conclusion is actually about humid conditions over a long period in Kalahari than previously known. Lines 40/45 – all very southern African references. Not surprising given the study area and the authors – but I think a bit of extra punch here would be given by first looking more widely at Africa before zooming in on the Kalahari. E.g. Basell (2008, QSR) on East Africa…Scerri et al. (2014, QSR) on North Africa etc. For instance, in the former, Basell argues that in East Africa humans are seemingly tethered to water sources until MIS 5, and then seemingly not. Seems relevant to me. So I suggest just an initial paragraph on such stuff. It I also useful to think about some of complexities here…e.g. in North Africa most human occupations correlate with wet episodes…but some seemingly don’t. Uan Tabu, for instance. But this is dated by OSL, done when this was an experimental method, so maybe the dates are wrong. So as well as a bit of a wider geographical focus, a bit of intro on methods stuff would be useful. I think dating tufas is a great way to go for reconstructing humidity in the study area, just nice to situate his more widely in terms of different archives and the history of study. HG – to think about. Sampling intensity, at one point are enough samples to reliably reconstruct human occupations and regional climate present Using the LC-ICP-MS method seems exciting. The methods are described very clearly and all seem sensible, i.e. locating areas with less detrital contamination for dating. This sounds like a method which could be used more widely in tufa studies in the future. I am not an expert at U-Series dating so I cannot comment on specific technical aspects, but I could follow the authors’ description, it all makes sense, and seems reasonable. Likewise, the geological description of the study area is well written. I hope that a U-Series expert also reviews this paper to comment on this aspect. The typical problem with studies like this is that there will be one or two age estimates for humidity in an area, and it is hard to know how representative they are. The results here show clusters of ages, suggesting wet phases ca. 114-100 ka, 73-48 ka, 44-32 ka and 15-2 ka….this mostly seems fine. However, I am not totally sure about the separation of the middle two groups. Out of interested I plotted the dates (rounded slightly, not considering uncertainty) dating to MIS 4 and 3 out of interest, and it looks like a continuous series to me, not one that is two groups. I’m dubious that this self-evidently represents two distinct humid phases….another way of looking at this…is that the ca. 48 ka age is as close to the oldest date in the 44-32 ka group as it is to the next youngest date in the 73-48 ka group….So I suggest the authors clarify their thinking a little here. To me, a simpler interpretation is that there are three clusters of ages, 114-100 ka, 73-32 ka, and 15-2 ka. I note the authors themselves suggest “our record suggests tufa formation was semi-continuous across MIS 4 and MIS 3” (line 278). It might also be worth thinking about sampling adequacy and how meaningful the inferred gaps are. In terms of interpretation. They describe how earlier phases of occupation correlate with wet phases, but that there is a decoupling of this after 71 ka. But I don’t really understand this, as their figure 4 suggests that no human occupations are known in the area between the end of MIS 5 and the end of MIS 3. Surely the point about humans not being tethered to water would be shown by human occupations during arid times? Their argument is that they have shown there wet condition, but no evidence for people means this de-tethering. I get what they mean, but not sure how strong an argument that is. I think a simpler interpretation is that with so few archaeological sites in the area dated, it is simply a question of sampling adequacy. If it was really so wet, why would humans not have been in the area? And they even point to possible evidence at Wonderwerk which could date to this MIS 4/3 time. It is a question of sampling adequacy. Do three sites really demonstrate the absence of people from the region? If we only had Wonderwerk and Ga-Mohana, it would appear no people were in the area between ca. 90 and 30 ka. Yet Kathu Pan shows people there at about 75 ka. Who is to say another site would not show people at 65 ka, 55 ka, etc? It is with the end of MIS 3 and into MIS 2 that more persuasive evidence for decoupling of humans and water is evident, with humans being found in seemingly arid situations. With this evidence it could be stated that this decoupling seemed to happen around 30 ka. Even if their ‘decoupling’ argument is correct, it does not really make sense. If humans were living in arid areas this would indeed say something about “new social and technological adaptations that helped hunter-gatherers cope more effectively with diverse environmental conditions” (line 426/427). But the absence of people from what are supposedly good conditions begs the question ‘why was no one there?’ rather than suggesting that some kind of adaptations are involved in people not being somewhere nice. In summary: this is a useful paper, but I suggest the authors change their interpretation somewhat. Reviewer #2: The study of von der Maden et al. concerns the study of fossil tufa deposits form the arid region of southern Kalahari in unraveling their connection with local archeological human origins and the impact for the palaeoenvironmental reconstructions. I have appreciated the study, the obtained ages and the resulting data concerning implications with human settling Many studies emphasize the close relation. My only remarks are about: Tufa morphological components (line 162): there are several morphological classifications about tufa depositional system. As done for the fabric classification (Manzo et al.), I suggest indicating the reference used for the morphological classification (definitions are available from Pentecost and Viles, 1994, Pedley 2009; Arenas-Abad et al. 2010; Jones and Renaut 2010, Capezzuoli et al., 2014), Comparison to global records (line 271-311): in my opinion this is paragraph is a bit ambitious, not only because the herereported bibliography is really poor (please note that there is already a review article on tufa/travertine deposition and climate…and it is not cited: Ricketts, J.W., Ma, L., Wagler, A.E. and Garcia, V.H. 2019. Global travertine deposition modulated by oscillations in climate. Journal of Quaternary Science, 34, 558–568, https://doi.org/10.1002/jqs.3144), but because the tufa deposition is really different in different setting/climatic regimes of the world. I agree with authors that the dichotomy wet/dry – interglacial/glacial view is to be considered simplistic (Line 275-276), but their consequent suggestion that tufa formation is not restricted to interglacial periods is not new! For review between climate and tufa deposition, I suggest to see Andrews, 2006; Pedley, 2009, while about the former presence of active tufas as record of important rainfall regime shifts, this has been already showed in distal glacial (South Europe, Capezzuoli et al., 2010; Alexandrowicz, 2012), in semi-arid environments (Brazil, Auler & Smart, 2001; Spain, Luzon et al., 2011) and desert settings (Namibia, Viles et al., 2007; Libya, Cremaschi et al., 2010; Ethiopia, Moeyersons et al., 2006). In contrast, the presence of tufas deposits in tropical and monsoon-dominated settings testifies to an absence of destructive large wet season floods and, consequently, for reduced periods of rainfall (Carthew et al., 2003, 2006). In the correct hypothesis to study the local weather conditions (rainfall and insolation) as constraining for the local tufa deposition, I suggest to also consider and compare with the Egyptian tufa described in Kele et al. 2021 (https://doi.org/10.1144/jgs2020-147) and relative discussion implementing insolation, humidity, radiometric dating and isotope (also showing that the record of climate in Egypt’s tufa is inconsistent with a simple model of palaeoclimate for this region). Very minor trifles are indicated in the attached pdf Hope it helps Enrico Capezzuoli ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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One of the reviewer only suggest a very recent paper that you may consider at this stage: Kaboth-Bahr et al (2021) on the point that climate variability does in Africa does not simplistically follow a glacial/interglacial logic: https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.2018277118 Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I think the authors have done a good job at revising their paper. I have no further comments and look forward to seeing this published. The authors may wish to consider adding a reference to the recent paper by Kaboth-Bahr et al (2021) on the point that climate variability does in Africa does not simplistically follow a glacial/interglacial logic: https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.2018277118 ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No ********** |
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