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PONE-D-21-29018Update on frequency decline of Northeast Pacific blue whale (Balaenoptera musculus) callsPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Rice, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. This manuscript has now been assessed by two experts. Both were quite positive about the study, but have a number of recommendations for improving it. Please thoroughly address all reviewer comments when revising your manuscript. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jan 16 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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(Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Review of Frequency decline in blue whale calls Firstly, my apologies to the authors for the delay in providing the review. Just too heavy a a workload. The paper "Review of Frequency decline in blue whale calls" is well written and requires no grammatical edits. My suggestions are to do with: 1) the interpretation of frequency shifts between fundamental frequencies and harmonics or overtones; and 2) some additional ideas for discussion. The authors have used techniques widely used by others. There is the potential for errors of interpretation in what is being observed (which applies to earlier works also) so I am suggesting some additional analysis as per below. Main comment: 1/ Harmonics are caused by amplitude modulation of a carrier tone. The harmonic spacing relates to the frequency of amplitude modulation. If there is no amplitude modulation of the carrier tone then there are no harmonics or overtones. Thus if you measure frequency shift of harmonics there are potentially two causes which can act independently: 1) a change in frequency of the carrier tone which would result in a linear change in frequency of the harmonic, assuming the harmonic amplitude modulation rate did not change (this is what your analysis and those of others assumes); or 2) a change in the amplitude modulation rate which would result in the overtone or harmonic having a different frequency 'slope' through a call than the carrier frequency. Thus if you measure a frequency shift of the harmonic you need to be confident that the amplitude modulation rate which produces the harmonic has stayed constant through the call, if you are to assume the frequency shift applies to the entire call. At a worst case it is possible the whale call carrier frequency has not changed but the amplitude modulation rate has, which will be reflected in a frequency decline of the harmonics. While this is not the case with great whales and the call carrier frequency does decline over time there needs to be some better rigour applied when changes in frequencies of harmonics are analysed and in particular compared between authors, whom for the same species may be comparing frequency changes measured between harmonics and carrier frequencies, which are generated by different phenomena (carrier frequency by the physics of the sound generation apparatus and harmonics by the amplitude modulation rate of the carrier frequency). If you are to compare frequency rates with the earlier study of McDonald et al, then you should be comparing the same harmonics. While it means more analysis, it would also be good (and provide more rigour) if you could compare rates of change of carrier frequency with harmonic frequency (a reflection of amplitude modulation rate) through a call to determine which is changing - carrier frequency, amplitude modulation rate, or both? If the amplitude modulation rate does not change within a call then your analysis (and all the other published studies which use harmonic frequencies to demonstrate frequency changes over time) stands as they are. If the amplitude modulation changes through time then that opens new questions on what is going on and confuses the yearly comparisons, particularly the amount of frequency decline observed in different studies. I do think you should do this analysis, otherwise we perpetuate the potential (am not saying it is always present or has occurred here) confusion of what is being measured - changes to carrier frequency, amplitude modulation rate if harmonics are measured, or both? It would also help if you had a physicist to elaborate in the introduction, the production of harmonics or overtones and how this impacts what you are trying to measure (frequency shifts across a long time frame). 2/ Extra points for discussion: Ward et al. (2017) show a 'resetting' of carrier frequency (this call type has no overtones) in a great whale species (see Fig. 5). This species should be 'resetting' its carrier frequency again, around now. It may be worth mentioning this. The 'resetting' implies a conscious effort on the part of the animal to shift its frequency as it occurs over such a short time period (one or two seasons) which is far too short to represent an environmental shift. I disagree with the impact depth can have on whale carrier frequency. You have implied that depth has little impact. Tags attached to whales often have poor resolution (0.5 m is common), thus require high sample rates to infer small scale trends of changes in depth (ie. 20 s across a call length). We have a work in progress using a high sample rate tag which suggests call frequency within a blue whale species' call is related to the whale's depth. This would imply the animal can consciously change its call carrier frequency by changing its singing depth by a small amount. The species in question does this within a call. You can ignore this if you wish but I would suggest you at least say the animals singing depth will play a role in call carrier frequency changes. Ward, R., Gavrilov, A. N., McCauley, R.D. (2017) “Spot” call: a common sound from an unidentified great whale in Australian temperate waters. J. Acoust. Soc. Am. Express Letters 142(2) EL231-236, doi.org/10.1121/1.4998608 Reviewer #2: Please see attachment for comments and plot of pulse rate vs. time. 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Update on frequency decline of Northeast Pacific blue whale (Balaenoptera musculus) calls PONE-D-21-29018R1 Dear Dr. Rice, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Both reviewers assessed your revisions, and feel that you have addressed all of their comments appropriately. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, William David Halliday, Ph.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thank you to the paper authors for considering and addressing comments. A comment, to decrease call frequency for a bubble the bubble depth must decrease, only by a small amount for the frequency shifts observed. This would apply to a whale lung space. Perhaps there are differing mechanisms for producing frequency shifts amongst different whale species, which would make the long term frequency decline more puzzling. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No |
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PONE-D-21-29018R1 Update on frequency decline of Northeast Pacific blue whale (Balaenoptera musculus) calls Dear Dr. Rice: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. William David Halliday Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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