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PONE-D-21-13227 Evoked and Transmitted Culture models: Using bayesian methods to infer the evolution of cultural traits in history PLOS ONE Dear Dr. HYAFIL, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 07 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: I Don't Know ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors describe a new method of analyzing diachronous (and synchronous) data with the goal of identifying the effects of evoked and transmitted culture. The authors call their method an Evoked-Transmitted Culture (ETC) model. The paper describes how the model functions, how it can be applied (including calculating uncertainty) and how it compares to some other approaches. Overall, I like this paper a lot and the general idea is clever. However, I think the validation of the method is a little lacking: it is clear this method can work, but I am left very unclear about how reliably it will work and whether there are conditions where it does not do well. I will describe this in more detail below, as well as some more minor points. Validation Take, for instance, figure 2 (or any of the other similar figures). These give a very good sense of how the model is working given the values of the parameters assumed in the simulated data set. But what about other parameter values? To really persuade the reader we need a thorough exploration of parameter space to get a sense of how robust this method is. This is particularly important because the resolution of historical data sets might be quite poor compared to rates of cultural adaptation, making it very hard to tell apart an immediate response to the environment or one that accumulates across generations. (I note that the authors acknowledge as much on line 128, although the implications of this for real data sets are not really expanded upon). Given the number of parameters, such an exploration would be a major endeavor, and so it would be reasonable for the authors to hold off, and save such an exploration for a future paper. But either way, I would encourage them to do so at some point if they want others to take notice of their suggested methodology. Similarly, the authors’ position would be strengthened if they applied their method to real (as opposed to purely simulated) data to show an example of the kind of insights this method offers in practice. While I do think these are important concerns. I do not think they necessary preclude publication of the paper. This is because what is already there is (as far as I can tell) technically sound, and the paper does make a sensible contribution in its current form. There is simply more that could be done if the authors wish to maximize the impact of their suggested method. Minor points: 1. lines 13-16. The use of the demographic transition is weird here. Yes, it occurs across societies, but this does not simply imply an ecological response without transmission. For instance, Heidi Colleran has shown the role of social transmission in women’s contraceptive choices in a rural population. While Boyd & Richerson have argued that prestige biased transmission is critical to the demographic transition (see Not By Genes Alone). More generally, there is no unproblematic explanation for the demographic transition as an adaptative ecological response. It remains a big question, that defies a behavioral ecological approach, and cultural transmission seems very important. 2. line 32. Putting “institutions” in the environment and not a part of cultural transmission is a big claim! Many cultural evolutionists would push back against this. If the authors really want to have culturally constructed and transmitted institutions to be part of the environment and not part of transmitted culture then they need to argue why this is the right thing to do in this case. 3. lines 77-89. Overall the model introduction is well written, but it’s a challenge writing it such that even non-statistically oriented scientists can follow. Minimally, I’d unpack the term “probabilistic generative models” just so readers can follow more easily. 4. line 91. It feels odd to introduce phi as a set of parameters, but not explain what they are. Maybe give a couple of examples and then just state this will be explained in full later. 5. Figure 1, I would suggest using different shaped symbols for E, T and A. As it currently is I assumed time flowed from top to bottom, not left to right, so it took me a while to wrap my head around the figure. 6. line 128 - please explain why this is necessary. I think it is because otherwise you might get multiple transitions within a single time step. 7. line 150 - please explain this parameter more. It looks like a constant pull towards 0, proportional to the current distance from 0. Is this right? 8. Equations 8 to 12. I must confess these equations go beyond my mathematical capacity. Hopefully another reviewer can OK them. 9. Figure 3 is really hard to read, the thick lines obscure the shaded areas and thin lines. A different visual approach is required. Also, why do the blue lines stop early? In fact, the x-axis limits are different in all 3 panels - what’s going on? Reviewer #2: The manuscript Evoked and Transmitted Culture models: Using bayesian methods to infer the evolution of cultural traits in history propose a novel model to infer the evolution of cultural traits. The article is interesting and I support publication should the following points be addressed. Use Case The authors decided to introduce the model in rather abstract terms and to test it on synthetic data. This is fine, but it makes it difficult to verify how the model assumptions relate to concrete real-world phenomena, say the evolution of linguistic traits. I was wondering if the authors could present the model with a clear use case instead. This would make it easier to verify to what degree the model assumptions are appropriate for inferring a specific evolutionary process. The authors explain and motivate the model parameters with many examples (which is good!), but these examples appear to be somewhat unrelated. The example to explain the parameter for artifact productions is the number of universities in the region if artifacts are the number of scientific publications in a certain field, and the example for the data collection process is the number of registered archaeological sites when assessing the fabrication of a particular tool in a region. Again, I would encourage the authors to start with a clear use case in mind, explain all model parameters with respect to the use case and only then show how the model generalizes to other evolutionary stories. It will be much easier for the reader to follow the argument and to verify that the generative model fits the evolutionary process. Presentation of the model From what I can tell, the model seems mathematically sound. However the presentation of the model should be improved. Most importantly, the authors tend to introduce variables and equations without any initial explanation, motivation or justification, line by line adding chunks to the generative story, rather than painting the big picture first and then filling in the details. This makes the manuscript cumbersome to read and the model hard to understand. A particularly bad example (in terms of didactics) is equation 6 for continuous cultural traits, which throws four previously unmentioned variables at the reader without really providing any explanations on why they are relevant and what they are meant to model. I collected some other points below: In equation 1, T_t,r on the left hand side depends on T_t-1, but on the right hand side this conditional event referring to one time stamp earlier has been omitted. Could the authors comment on this? Maybe I do not fully understand the equation. Theta_T (line 91) It is rather difficult to follow the argument here, because no further details are given for Theta_T at this point other than the brief explanation that it is a set of parameters of cultural evolution. Theta_T is only explained properly on line 137. Maybe change the order? The same holds true for Theta_A which does not seem to be defined at all. Equation 4 Could equation 4 be based on relevant theory? What are the implications of this being a linear relationship? Line 129 Why is this relationship required? Please explain. Equation 5 Why does equation 4 use a transition rate, but equation 5 the transition rate times delta t? Equation 6 and 7 Is there any theoretical justification for equation 6 and 7? Could you explain what cultural lability is and why it is relevant here? Why is there a variable to model a potential bias towards positive or negative trait values? Please justify your design decisions. Line 130: this seems to belong to the simulation, but not the model. Same for line 156. Both the binary and the cont. model use the same set of parameters theta_T. I would use different parameters here. Simulation study and scalability The authors chose to test the model on simulated data, which is fine. I was wondering, though, if the authors could design the simulation with a specific real-world scenario in mind and define the simulation goals accordingly. This could allow others to verify if the scenario is plausible and if all relevant goals are achieved. Moreover, the simulation relies on 6 regions, which seems rather low for real world studies, especially given that the model should be applicable when the nodes of the network are interconnected individuals. How scalable is the approach? Language I am not an English native either, but I feel that the language can be improved here and there (especially the use of articles). Defining ETC models The paragraph introducing the generative model is rather low on references (line 67 and following). The two definitions for cultural artifacts and cultural traits, for example, appear to be make sense intuitively, but I was wondering if they reflect the scientific consensus. The same holds true for the influencing factors for cultural traits (vertical and horizontal transmission, and ecological factors). I would encourage the authors to provide additional references and introduce the relevant theory to justify the parametrization of the model. T_t,r and A_t,r(line 87) Could the authors give a concrete example of a cultural trait T_t,r and a corresponding artifact A_t,r? What would be an existing diachronic data set of cultural artifacts A_t,r? Does a specific A_t,r originate due to a single trait T_t,r, or does it imply the existence of several different traits? I am lacking the necessary mathematical background to appropriately assess if the general fitting procedure is correct. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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PONE-D-21-13227R1Evoked and Transmitted Culture models: Using bayesian methods to infer the evolution of cultural traits in historyPLOS ONE Dear Dr. HYAFIL, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The reviewers have been very positive about the revised version that you submitted and there are only a few minor issues that need to be addressed. Please submit your revised manuscript by Mar 13 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors have revised and resubmitted their manuscript describing ETC models to evaluate the effects of cultural transmission and environmental factors on cultural change. I liked the paper on its initial submission and find it to be considerably improved following the authors’ revisions. I thank the authors for their work following the previous round of review, and I now consider the manuscript suitable for publication, although I will note two minor points: line 32 – I appreciate the authors removal of the word institutions here, but there remains an issue with wording. As it stands, the authors now seem to be putting various features of the environment within “culture”, for instance pathogen presence. However, this is not typical. For instance, environmental features that arose independently of human actions might nonetheless influence how we behave, yet to include these features themselves as “culture” is unusual because it is not clear how they are being inherited. To the extent that human action has created environmental features (e.g. global warming) it is common to talk of them being inherited, but this would normally be placed within niche construction or ecological inheritance, not necessarily cultural inheritance. More generally, I think the authors need to recognize that at one extreme their model does not concern culture at all – if their model found that transmission had no role, and all that mattered was environmental state, then the process at work is simply one of adaptive phenotypic plasticity and not culture. To resolve this the wording of the manuscript needs tweaking, particularly in this section, though the authors might spot other places to make useful changes too. The wording is great, for instance, in lines 100-101 where the point of the model is described as identifying the roles of transmission and ecology, and I would suggest that the latter is not part of culture per se (though it can of course influence culture). line 73 – typo? “action facial unites”? Reviewer #2: Thank you for addressing all the points raised in my first review. I have two minor comments on the revised manuscript and one optional additional suggestion. Line 208: Why doesn’t the cultural trait converge to simply the default? In other words, why does rho still appear in the denominator? Line 211: I hope it is a Wiener process and not a Wiener, an inhabitant of the city of Vienna. Or is it the *other* wiener and I completely misunderstood the point of transmitted culture? :D Initial comment on the presentation of the model The authors now explain all model parameters, but they have not addressed my central issue and neither improved the presentation of the model nor justified the design decisions. For example, why is cultural lability a necessary ingredient of the equation? Why do the external factors matter? I don’t want to stay in the way of the paper getting published because I see the merit of the work. Still, I would encourage the authors to explain the generative story of their model first and then provide the equations, which will allow the readers to judge the model’s relevance for their problems and increase its adoption in the community. I leave it to the authors whether or not they want to address this point. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). 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