Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionApril 9, 2021 |
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PONE-D-21-11217 Nursing students admitted through the affirmative action system display a similar performance in professional and academic trajectories as those from the regular path in a public school in Brazil PLOS ONE Dear Prof. De Sousa Holanda Biazotto, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Each reviewer has engaged with the paper in a substantial and considerate way. Each of them raises some concerns about the analysis and its presentation. The reviewers’ comments are numerous and require thoughtful and detailed work. I am confident that if you engage with all the reviewers’ suggestions in a thoughtful and cogent way, the quality of your paper will be definitely enhanced. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 27 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Additional Editor Comments (if provided): [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This article is focused on a relevant and emerging field – The role of Education Policies at higher levels for reducing inequalities, especially at degree’s achievements. There are promising sections in the paper but there are also opportunities of improvement. Let me address the most claiming of these weak sections: Point 1: The English style must be revised for the entire text. The Review of Literature must be redone, considering a different path. For instances, I suggest Authors to divide the Review of Literature considering the different dimensions interfering in the evolution of each different dimension of socio-economic inequality and latter to focus on the importance of reducing inequalities at school/university degrees’achievements. Authors must then elaborate and justify the rationale behind the set of variables surveyed in the models. Additionally, authors must discuss better their arguments. There is not a clear linkage the Review of Literature and the empirical effort (e.g., which literature did suggest the studied dimensions in questionnaire?). Additionally, authors must consider the possibility of several other methods for robustness (mostly anticipated in their review of literature - analysis of discriminatory models, canonical correlation methods, structural equation models, probit and ordered probit dimensions, etc) Point 2: Tables and Figures can be improved in the presented format. There are also different types/styles of edition which must be fixed. There are additional insights which must be discussed again. Authors must try to detail the rationale behind some possible ‘exogenous’ variables, like the geographical dummies, taking the opportunity to include additional dimensions like the regional level of unemployment (coeteris paribus, a proxy for the difficulties of getting a new job if hired/proxy for latent demand) and a dimension related to the opportunity cost of economic inequality). It became unclear whether Authors cannot use a panel data/longitudinal analysis by taking an additional attention on these data. Considering the time of data collection, additional insights, namely the effects of pandemic situation, must be discussed on particular biases on responses. Point 3. Finally, I will also appreciate to have more information about the implications, weaknesses and challenges of the data sources. Authors shall also try standard methods for binary data (namely probit x logit comparison as well as exhibit marginal effects for the variables on Table 3). Considering Table 3, several problems of multicollinearity and of endogeneity must be discussed, as well as the robustness of the estimated errors considering heteroscedasticity. In Table 4, the p-value related to the t- or z- tests must be detailed, given the different samples’ sizes. Point 4. Discussion of Results as well as Conclusions must be revised (in length and in content). Besides an English revision, the text posits sentences which have not been even tested along the previous text: “In Brazil, there is persistently high racial and socioeconomic inequality due to its history of colonization and slavery.” Or “The lack of access to higher education for students 260from the most vulnerable social classes may perpetuate socioeconomic inequities by 261hindering social mobility”. For this 2nd quote, I suggest some reads namely articles like Gomes et al (2021, International Journal of Manpower) or Hout (2018, PNAS). Reviewer #2: “Nursing students admitted through the affirmative action system display a similar performance in professional and academic trajectories as those from the regular path in a public school in Brazil” Research question: To compare the outcomes (academic, employment, and professional) of nursing students admitted through regular and quota systems at a public undergraduate institution in Brazil. Findings: Examining comprehensive data on students admitted during 2009-2014, the paper finds that students admitted through the quota system were somewhat older. However, there were no significant differences in the likelihood of completing nursing school. Examining survey data on students admitted during 2009-2014, the paper finds there were no significant differences in earnings, public sector employment, job satisfaction, as well as other outcomes. Comments/suggestions: 1. Thanks for writing this paper. It is important to understand more about affirmative action in public health careers. 2. It would improve the paper to define more precisely what is meant by affirmative action in education. Public policies vary a lot across the world and even in Brazil. Sometimes they are based on race/ethnicity, sometimes on socioeconomic status, and sometimes on both. The paper should clarify in the abstract and introduction that the policy under consideration is one related to public school attendance, a proxy for socioeconomic status. 3. The paper assumes (rightly) there are differences in socioeconomic status between regular and quota nursing students but doesn’t actually demonstrate this. If the data exist, it would improve the paper to compare the socioeconomic background of students, e.g., private/public school attendance, parents' education. It would especially be interesting to know what percentage of regular students had attended private primary and secondary school. 4. It appears there are errors in Table 2. The row on nursing school completion above four years says that 14 regular students and 21 quota students took longer than four years to complete school. However, if 150 regular students and 103 quota students graduated, then the percentage taking more than four years should be 9.3% for regular students and 20.4% for quota students. Please correct the errors in the table and check the related multivariate results in Table 3. 5. Given the survey response rate was about 43%, it would be useful to investigate how the survey participants were different from the student population. This analysis can be done separately for normal and quota students and can be an “appendix” table. Such an analysis would help to contextualize the interpretation of results in Table 4. 6. Reference #2 (Francis and Tannuri-Pianto) is relevant. They have other work that is even more relevant. One paper (Francis, Andrew M. and Maria Tannuri-Pianto. 2012. "Using Brazil’s Racial Continuum to Examine the Short-Term Effects of Affirmative Action in Higher Education." Journal of Human Resources, 47(3): 754-784.) examines differences in academic performance between regular and quota students at the University of Brasilia. Another paper (Francis-Tan, Andrew and Maria Tannuri-Pianto. 2018. "Black Movement: Using discontinuities in admissions to study the effects of college quality and affirmative action." Journal of Development Economics, 135: 97-116.) examines the effect of quotas on college completion and labor earnings. 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PONE-D-21-11217R1Nursing students admitted through the affirmative action system display similar performance in professional and academic trajectories to those from the regular path in a public school in BrazilPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Biazotto, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. More specifically, the reviewers recommend reconsideration of your manuscript following minor revision and modification.Please submit your revised manuscript by Mar 10 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: There was an interesting revision of the paper. However, Authors introduced now the relevant element of Propensity Scores matching with the expected details. I urge Authors to fix this minor issue. Reviewer #2: Thanks for revising the paper extensively. The changes made the paper more insightful and more convincing. The only issue that I'd like to raise is related to Table 1 (page 12). I think the errors in the table are still uncorrected. The row on nursing school completion above four years says that 14 regular students and 21 quota students took longer than four years to complete school. However, if 150 regular students and 103 quota students graduated, then the percentage taking more than four years should be 9.3% for regular students and 20.4% for quota students. The errors concern either the percentages OR the numbers in the table note. If the percentages, then also update/correct the statement on page 11 that "there was no significant difference regarding ... the time taken to complete nursing school (p = 0.837)." ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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Nursing students admitted through the affirmative action system display similar performance in professional and academic trajectories to those from the regular path in a public school in Brazil PONE-D-21-11217R2 Dear Dr. Biazotto, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Giuseppe Lucio Gaeta, Ph.D Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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PONE-D-21-11217R2 Nursing students admitted through the affirmative action system display similar performance in professional and academic trajectories to those from the regular path in a public school in Brazil Dear Dr. Biazotto: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Prof. Giuseppe Lucio Gaeta Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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