Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionFebruary 8, 2021 |
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PONE-D-21-04349 Automated Selection of Mid-Height Intervertebral Disc Slice in Traverse Lumbar Spine MRI using Transfer Learning and Dimensionality Reduction of Pre-trained DCNN Features PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Sudirman, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by May 26 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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[Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Partly Reviewer #4: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The technical detail of this work is missing. Authors should add the technical detail related to proposed method. Without technical detail, the manuscript is not acceptable. Also, based on just results, it is not possible to accept this version. Reviewer #2: This paper still needs improvement before acceptance for publication. My detailed comments and suggestions are given as follows: 1. The Introduction needs to be revised and should emphasize the challenges and corresponding techniques. 2. More comparative experiments should be added to illustrate the superiority of the propose method, and the experimental results should be further analyzed. 3. Training details should be presented, such as the setting of learning rate and the decay of loss function. 4. Discussions about the generalization performance of deep learning model are encouraged. 5. Many figures are so blurred that they cannot be read, such as Fig. 11, Fig .12, and Fig. 13. Reviewer #3: In this paper, the authors tackled an interesting problem of selecting specific slices from lumbar spine MRI. The motivation behind this work is clear, and the ideas presented in this manuscript are valid, but it suffers from the following shortcomings that need to be addressed before it could be considered for publication: 1. The authors sort of failed to contextualize their work within the state of the art, as reducing the dimensionality of deep features extracted using deep models is not novel. As the examples, see the following works: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1047320319301932, https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-77538-8_34. The authors should not only discuss such techniques in the related literature part of the manuscript, but should also confront their dimensionality reduction technique with other feature extraction and selection algorithms. 2. I suggest removing acronyms from the title. 3. Overall, the quality of the figures is very low and should be substantially improved. 4. The authors should discuss the models presented in Table 1 in much more detail. Specifically, I encourage the authors to prepare a taxonomy of investigated deep architectures (with special emphasis put on their architectural choices that are specific). To this end, the authors should make sure that the manuscript is self-contained. Also, please add the year for each model in Table 1. 5. Please discuss the co-registration process in more detail (lines starting from 296). 6. The authors should perform rigorous crossvalidation to fully understand the generalization abilities of the algorithms (a single 80/20 split may be not enough to infer correct conclusions). 7. Although the authors did try to show different experimental aspects of various architectures, the experiments are rather not thorough. It would be best to present the ablation study (e.g., selection of optimizers) for a wider range of investigated models. Overall, the authors should rework their experimental part of the paper to make it more thorough. Reviewer #4: Review Manuscript PONE-D-21-04349 The authors present an alternative methodology to assess the selection of mid-high IVD image slide from MRI acquisitions. This is an interesting work for the spine community since it states a possible automatic way the selection of suitable images of the IVD in lumbar spine. The use deep learning algorithm to a large number of images to test their technique. This work presents a really nice use of deep learning to tackle a difficulty of obtaining better information of the lumbar IVDs. However, the manuscript summited is not ready to be published since there are some aspects to be considered. These aspects are listed as follow: - Most of the research articles follow the structure: Introduction, Materials and methods, Results, Discussion, Conclusions (sometimes included at the end of the discussion section). This structure is not totally followed by the authors making difficult the follow up of the paper. - I really enjoyed the introduction part, it was really instructive and easy to follow. Nevertheless, a clear aim of the study is missing. At lines 91-92 the mentioned “In this paper, we detailed our approach to automatically …” but if this is an objective is vague, they need to specify the objective(s) of their study. - The second section can be reduced and included in the introduction that also need to be reduced. In general, the introduction should not be larger than 2 pages, but some exception are in order when the paper is a review which is not the case. - Material and methods section: it is poor. In this section the authors should present the steps they did in the study, a description of the methods, i.e. what they did, what they use, what they modified. The database use, the test they did and what were the variable measured/evaluated, they will compare their results with what database to validate. - Part 4, is a mix of several part. Here the authors present, part of the methods, then present the results, and discuss a little bit about the results. I highly suggest to the authors to follow the article structure previous mentioned. - Results: in general, they are interesting. They should have a separate section where they can be presented in a proper way - Discussion: The results are poorly discussed. The authors make some interesting comments regarding the results. However, a comparison with other studies, what are the similarities and differences, and the explanation of the differences, what are the limitations of the method propose, are missed in the manuscript presented. - Conclusions: is weak. It is not clear the contribution of the new technique to the spine community, does the outcomes obtained are better than the one obtained manually? Is it faster? Can be implemented easily in clinic? - Figures with bars: It might be better to present a feature with the modes used instead of having them separated. I mean, for example figure 6, the metric accuracy can have the bars for SGDM and Adam, as such, it can be seen better the differences between the two models used. - Tables 2 and 3: please rearrange the information to better understand the content, also when present statistical results avoid to use scientific notation for the numbers, it is better and more easy to evaluate the number with decimals. - Anachronisms, check that all of them are previously introduced. -Experiments: the word “experiment” is most common for cells, object, assay experiments. It is better to use test when you use numerical “experiment”, e.g. testing a new numerical algorithm against another one to evaluate its performance. - Lines 527 -528: the authors present that their method improves upon the benchmark TL/FT methods by presenting increments in the mean values. How this is true? I mean, how the fact that the mean is higher, is a sign of improvement? The manuscript is well written and the study is really interesting for spine community. The reviewer encourages the authors to consider all the comments mentioned previously. With the changes suggested in this review, the authors can resubmit the manuscript for publication. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No Reviewer #4: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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PONE-D-21-04349R1 Automated Selection of Mid-Height Intervertebral Disc Slice in Traverse Lumbar Spine MRI using a Combination of Deep Learning Feature and Machine Learning Classifier. PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Sudirman, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Sep 16 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. Guidelines for resubmitting your figure files are available below the reviewer comments at the end of this letter. If applicable, we recommend that you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io to enhance the reproducibility of your results. Protocols.io assigns your protocol its own identifier (DOI) so that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols. Additionally, PLOS ONE offers an option for publishing peer-reviewed Lab Protocol articles, which describe protocols hosted on protocols.io. Read more information on sharing protocols at https://plos.org/protocols?utm_medium=editorial-email&utm_source=authorletters&utm_campaign=protocols. We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Khanh N.Q. Le Academic Editor PLOS ONE Journal Requirements: Please review your reference list to ensure that it is complete and correct. If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #3: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: (No Response) ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: 1) "A CAD system can help doctors understand the cause of an illness better by automating some steps in the diagnosis process. In a CAD system that uses medical images, the system applies image analysis algorithms to different types or modalities of medical imaging, such as Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI), of the patient."- add reference for this statement. I suggest the following: - Skin lesion segmentation and multiclass classification using deep learning features and improved moth flame optimization - Computer Decision Support System for Skin Cancer Localization and Classification - Multimodal brain tumor classification using deep learning and robust feature selection: A machine learning application for radiologists 2) "In the case of MRI, for example, a CAD system might use the two modalities of MRI, namely the T1-weighted and T2-weighted MRI, which can differently highlight various types of tissues based on their fat and water composition."- add figures of T1, T2, T1W, and Flair. You can take this figure from the following: - A Decision Support System for Multimodal Brain Tumor Classification using Deep Learning - Microscopic brain tumor detection and classification using 3D CNN and feature selection architecture 3) "Training DCNN models take a long time hence there exist several pre-trained DCNN models that are readily usable for image classification."- add reference for this statement. 4) "used in many other types of image classification tasks, including medical image classification, through a method called Transfer Learning"- add reference for this statement: I suggest the folowing: - Attributes based skin lesion detection and recognition: A mask RCNN and transfer learning-based deep learning framework - A deep neural network and classical features based scheme for objects recognition: an application for machine inspection 5) Add manuscript organization before materials and methods section. 6) What represent Table 1? Reviewer #2: The revision of opinions is not satisfactory. The overall expression and organization of the paper should be further improved. Reviewer #3: (No Response) ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email PLOS at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step. |
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PONE-D-21-04349R2Automated Selection of Mid-Height Intervertebral Disc Slice in Traverse Lumbar Spine MRI using a Combination of Deep Learning Feature and Machine Learning Classifier.PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Sudirman, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Nov 18 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
If applicable, we recommend that you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io to enhance the reproducibility of your results. Protocols.io assigns your protocol its own identifier (DOI) so that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols. Additionally, PLOS ONE offers an option for publishing peer-reviewed Lab Protocol articles, which describe protocols hosted on protocols.io. Read more information on sharing protocols at https://plos.org/protocols?utm_medium=editorial-email&utm_source=authorletters&utm_campaign=protocols. We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Khanh N.Q. Le Academic Editor PLOS ONE Journal Requirements: Please review your reference list to ensure that it is complete and correct. If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #2: No ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #2: No ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #2: 1. A large number of deep learning models have been applied to experiments, but their training details have been ignored. 2. Many figures are still of low quality and cannot be seen clearly. 3. Intermediate experimental results should also be presented. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email PLOS at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step. |
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Automated Selection of Mid-Height Intervertebral Disc Slice in Traverse Lumbar Spine MRI using a Combination of Deep Learning Feature and Machine Learning Classifier. PONE-D-21-04349R3 Dear Dr. Sudirman, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Nguyen Quoc Khanh Le Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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PONE-D-21-04349R3 Automated Selection of Mid-Height Intervertebral Disc Slice in Traverse Lumbar Spine MRI using a Combination of Deep Learning Feature and Machine Learning Classifier. Dear Dr. Sudirman: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Nguyen Quoc Khanh Le Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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