Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionSeptember 25, 2021 |
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PONE-D-21-31006Sarcopenia assessed by 4-step EWGSOP2 in very elderly hemodialysis patients: feasibility and limitations.PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Sanchez-Tocino, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Nov 28 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Additional Editor Comments: Both reviewers question the fact the authors skip BIA measurement, as it is central in the diagnosis of sarcopenia. This point needs to be addressed. The discussion is a bit too long and should be shortened, focusing on the results. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: I Don't Know ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The reviewer has the following comments: 1. There are too many statistical analyses in this manuscript and, for most of them, they do not refer at all to the main objective of this study. For example, the authors compare men and women but this is completely useless and it confuses the main message of this paper. It is the same for the correlation between the parameters of the EWGSOP2. Once again, the authors must focus on the main objective of their research. 2. Focussing on their main objective, it could be interesting to assess the sensitivity, specificity, positive predictive and negative predictive values of the SARC-F questionnaire in their population. Indeed, the authors show that the SARC-F seems to miss out many real sarcopenic subjects and it could be interesting to compare the screening power of the SARC-F to what has been published in the scientific literature in a more general population. 3. The reviewer does not really understand how the authors could skip the bio-impedance assessment and still be able to assess a prevalence of severe sarcopenia since, by definition, the assessment of muscle mass is mandatory for the assessment of sarcopenia and its severity. 4. If the authors would like to skip the assessment of muscle mass, it is maybe because the problem of haemodialysed patients is not sarcopenia but more of muscle strength and muscle performance. It could deserve some discussion. Once again, the authors must focus on their main objective (i.e. to assess the prevalence of sarcopenia) and discuss all related items skipping all unrelated data clearly out of the field. Reviewer #2: The paper is a study assessing the new EWGSOP sarcopenia criteria in hemodialysis patients. It is an interesting study, but important issues could be raised. Major Comments - I understand the idea of skipping the SARC-F questionnaire which is a screening tool in a high prevalence of sarcopenia population. Interestingly this screening tool “misses” a high number of patients with confirmed sarcopenia. - However, I disagree that the muscle mass assessment could be skipped as discussed by authors. From the beginning of sarcopenia definition, muscle mass has been taken in account and what the authors propose in this large part of the paper is rather a study on dynapenia than sarcopenia. Sarcopenia is a state in which muscle strength is decreased, but also in which the muscle mass is decreased. Muscle plays a role in strength, but also has a metabolic role (for example of amino acid reservoir) and endocrine role (myokines secretion). Moreover, sarcopenia diagnosis is mostly driven by muscle mass as the authors explain (and as published in literature: see Bataille et al. The diagnosis of sarcopenia is mainly driven by muscle mass in hemodialysis patients. Clin Nutr 2016.). Therefore, the idea that sarcopenia frequency could be lower when muscle mass measurement is skipped is wrong. Although I understand that muscle strength is very closely related with outcomes, all papers on the consequences of sarcopenia on outcomes take in account the muscle mass. The end of paragraph on page 11 should be removed. I would also remove the Figure 1C and remove in Table 4 the part on Severity without ASM criterion. - Instead, the authors could discuss the prevalence of sarcopenia using ESGWOP1 criterion. -Table 5 could be removed as it does not provide many information since there is almost no difference between men and women. Results could be given in the text. - Table 6: The table does not answer the main question which is: “Is EWGSOP2 sarcopenia definition correlated with MIS, dependance and frailty scores ?” The authors could provide this table as supplementary data and replace it by a table analyzing the correlation between sarcopenia using EWGSOP2 criterion (yes vs no), and malnutrition, dependance and frailty scores. - The small number of patients, especially women included in this study is an important limitation. - As already discussed by authors (page 20), the timing of BIA measurement is an important point. In the last KDIGO recommendations of 2020 on nutrition, the experts propose that the BIA measurement is done 30 min after the end of hemodialysis session. Could the author discuss this recommendation? Do the timing of measurement explain the limits of this technique to confirm sarcopenia in HD patients? Minor comments: Table 2: Fat mass (not Fast mass) Table 4: EWGSOP (not EWSOP) I would propose to replace “very elderly” by “elderly” in the title. Could the authors provide de dosing technique used for albumin (Green bromocresol or Nephelemetry?). This could help interpreting the results. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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PONE-D-21-31006R1Sarcopenia assessed by 4-step EWGSOP2 in elderly hemodialysis patients: feasibility and limitations.PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Sanchez-Tocino, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jan 06 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Kind regards, Pierre Delanaye Academic Editor PLOS ONE Journal Requirements: Additional Editor Comments: The article has been improved and has the potential to be accepted. I agree with the discussion on sarcopenia/dynapenia. I agree with the Reviewer 1: all results according to gender have little added value (and are not discussed). At best, the results according to gender could be added in supplements. In the main text, I propose to focus on main results. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: 1. The reviewer still believe that there are too many statistical analyses in this manuscript and, for most of them, they do not refer at all to the main objective of this study (e.g. correlation between different sarcopenia categories and indexes). 2. The authors refer now to dynapenia. Again, this is not the objective of the paper. Reviewer #2: The paper has significantly been improved with the provided modifications. A typo error to be corrected: Pearson (and not Peasron) Page 8, line 187. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes: Stanislas BATAILLE [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. 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Sarcopenia assessed by 4-step EWGSOP2 in elderly hemodialysis patients: feasibility and limitations. PONE-D-21-31006R2 Dear Dr. Sanchez-Tocino, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Pierre Delanaye Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): No further comments Reviewers' comments: |
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PONE-D-21-31006R2 Sarcopenia assessed by 4-step EWGSOP2 in elderly hemodialysis patients: feasibility and limitations Dear Dr. Sanchez-Tocino: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Professor Pierre Delanaye Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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