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PONE-D-20-15801 Copper technology in the Arabah during the Iron Age: Punctuated equilibrium by extraneous intervention or gradual improvement by local craftsmen? PLOS ONE Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. In particular, reviewers raised concerns with both the methods and framing of the paper. Additionally, there was concern that some conclusions may not be fully supported by the results, and that some interpretations may not be fully grounded in the existing literature. Please submit your revised manuscript by Nov 12 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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(Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: General Comment: This is a response to a bad paper published in PLoS One in 2019. While I agree with your substantive criticisms of that paper, I am not recommending that PLoS One accept your response. I have two reasons for this. The first is that both the original paper and your response are not of sufficiently wide interest for publication in a leading general science journal – they belong in either a regional archaeological journal, or in Journal of Archaeological Science: Reports. My second criticism is that many of your archaeological conclusions seem to me to be speculations that bear no necessary relationship to the evidence or analysis actually presented in the paper. Detailed comments: Lines 35-41. This is not an introduction! You need to provided context. Where is the Arabah? Why should anyone be interested in this topic? Why is Feynan significant in the history of metallurgy? Why was there a copper industry in such a remote area? What is the chronological and geological relationship between Timna and Feynan? Provide citations to prior research here. Line 57. There were no geologists, mining engineers or physicists in the LBA! This is reading the present back into the past - what historians call the “presentist fallacy”. Lines 60-62. We actually do know something about Egyptian mining technology (from gold mining in the Eastern Desert) that is contemporary with the Egyptian presence in the Arabah! You should read about it and compare with the technology at Feynan. 132-133. It would be helpful to have a table of amounts of slag in each period so that the reader doesn’t have to go to the study cited. These changes in output are really important to your argument. 152-153. I agree with your criticism here – arguments about technological innovation should be based solely upon the evidence from studies of the technology. 174-176. This is a valid criticism. The ores at Feynan are not identical to those at Timna, so there would clearly have been some experimentation at the beginning of their exploitation. Fig. 5. Correct label (“furnance”). 230-235. You ignore here the evidence that they present in their Figure 2D and their Figure 4, which suggests to me that the “leap” in efficiency may simply be a consequence of the discovery that using manganese rather than iron oxides greatly improved the fluidity of the slag. This cannot be attributed to superior Egyptian technology – it is simply a consequence of the fact that some Faynan ores contain manganese. Discuss this with respect to your periods TPI and TPII. 236-253. This is another instance of the “presentist fallacy”. It is completely inappropriate to apply concepts from modern business schools to production more than 3000 years ago! A better place to look for suitable ways of thinking about this in ethnographic and historical studies of indigenous African metallurgy. If you look for example at the work of Philip de Barros at Bassar in Togo, or of the Swiss group (Eric Huysecom, Vincent Serneels, etc.) among Dogon ironworkers in Mali, you will find that “scaling up” requires neither the involvement of a state, nor even a managerial elite. (You can find these easily through Google). 254-283. There is a much simpler way to monitor copper losses, which is to look at freshly fractured surfaces of copper slag under low magnification (10x-20x). The size of metallic copper prills retained in slag is closely proportional to viscosity of the liquid slag; the smaller the prills, the better the recovery. Table 2. Can I suggest that you use “short tuyere” instead of “small tuyere” and “long tuyere” instead of “large tuyere”? It will make your discussion much easier to understand. Lines 331-355. This section is absurd, and another example of the “presentist fallacy” to which I referred above. How can the findings of a study of modern (late capitalist) management possibly be relevant to the management of copper smelting in the Bronze and Iron Ages? 342-344. This is not evidence of “management”! Techniques can, and do spread, by imitation – they do not have to be imposed by “management”. You provide no evidence whatever of the existence of “management” at this time. 392-394. “Furthermore, since copper production in Egypt increased considerably in later periods, such as the Nabataean, Roman and Byzantine periods, the deficiency in Egyptian copper production during the Iron Age cannot be related to the exhaustion of copper mineral sources.” I don’t know of any evidence for such an increase in Egypt – and you provide no citations. The main problem with metal production in Egypt has always been lack of fuel, not scarcity of ore. This is why the Egyptians imported copper from the Sinai, the Arabah and Cyprus, and iron from Nubia. 404-405. This is wild speculation on your part. We know essentially NOTHING about Egyptian copper smelting technology around 1000BC except for a couple of depictions of bellows in use on carved or painted panels. 422-432. This is your best counter-argument. One would expect to find material evidence for an Egyptian presence, in the form of buildings, shrines, etc. – as with the earlier Egyptian presence. 476-478. “It was a combination of innovative individuals, excellent local managerial quality and emerging market demands that dictated the impressive surge and success of the technology and organization of the Arabah industry at this time.” This conclusion is unsupported by any evidence presented in the paper. Innovative individuals? Yes, that seems likely. Excellent local managerial quality? No evidence at all. Emerging markets? Not even mentioned before this sentence! In summary, I think that you effectively destroy the arguments of Ben-Yosef et al. for a revolution in production because of the introduction of new technology by the Egyptian state. You do not however provide any evidence in support of your anachronistic claims for modern systems of management at Faynan during the Iron Age. I think that this article should be revised and then sent to a regional archaeological journal. Reviewer #2: First of all, congratulations for the well-structured and well written paper. It does not happen very often to be able to accept a paper for publication with no modifications. The text flows smoothly and all your theories and conclusions are properly supported by a sound and well-argued reasoning, as well as by updated and relevant bibliography. One small remark: In Figure 1, it would be good to have both a general map of the region and the map of the area with the sites mentioned in the text (that you already have). This would allow a reader who is not fully familiar with the region to better understand how it is situated with respect to Egypt and the Arabian Peninsula. And one personal thought: I feel that this type of articles focused on “counterstriking” someone else’s theory can be perceived in a very sensitive way. Although I do not believe that your writing style is offensive at all, sometimes reading through the text again (especially the first part) may help to smoothen the tones even more and giving the reader the clear feeling that the paper is just proposing an alternative theory, and that it does not want to be in any way an attack to other authors. Congratulations again for the great work! Reviewer #3: The manuscript is effectively a response and rebuttal to a 2019 PLoSONE paper, by Ben-Yosef et al., “Ancient technology and punctuated change: Detecting the emergence of the Edomite Kingdom in the Southern Levant.” Briefly, the authors of the present manuscript argue that there is insufficient evidence for an abrupt technological shift precipitated by the arrival of Egyptians. I am generally in agreement that there are significant issues with the Ben-Yosef et al argument, certainly from the perspective of metallurgical technology, and also perhaps from the perspective of other evidence. It is productive to these discussions to see some pushback from among those working on archaeometallurgy in the Southern Levant. Given that the original paper was published in PLoSONE, it makes sense that the rebuttal should be published in the same venue to aid discoverability. However, I think that the critique could be better formulated. There are methodological and framing issues with some of the critiques, others seem less relevant, while other avenues of critique are unexplored. Below, I note several areas for improvement. 150-160. This framing of the critique, claiming that only “technological” evidence should be used in creating models of production system, not “archaeological and historical considerations,” is ineffective. The point seems to be that the focus should only be on analysis of direct production residues—slags, tuyères, and the like. Most scholars of technology would agree that technological systems consist of much more than just the immediate techniques and behavioral sequences involving the act of production. In discussing organizational and management aspects, the authors themselves seem to acknowledge this. Thus, it seems problematic to claim that archaeological and historical considerations shouldn’t be included, with the goal of producing a “purely technological viewpoint.” Broader social, political, and economic considerations, revealed through analysis of the broader archaeological and historical evidence, are very much an important part of analyzing a technological system. I suspect the authors realize all this, but the framing here could be improved. It seems the multivariate statistical techniques (161ff) are being done on averages, rather than on the primary data, which is available as supplementary information alongside the Ben-Yosef et al paper. This is potentially problematic. Aside from a justification of the use of averages, I’d also want to see some methodological discussion about applying the cluster analysis to a dataset with a combination of continuous chemical data (Cu%) and radiocarbon data, which are calibrated date ranges with probability density distributions that are not normal. The Ben-Yosef et al. 2019 figure has its own problems (the use of only 1σ error bars for the date ranges, when 2σ is pretty much standard for reporting in archaeology). Given these potential issues, I’m not sure that the statistical analysis is helpful or necessary to build the critique. What can and should be stated (without any need for statistical analysis), is that there is really no abrupt shift in the copper content of the slags as shown in the Figure 2 of this paper (Figure 3 of Ben-Yosef et al.). Lines 208ff makes this point quite effectively without recourse to cluster analysis. What you see is really a gradual linear trend, one that would likely appear even more gradual if the individual analyses were plotted rather than just averages. Visualizing this by recreating that figure with raw data rather than averages would actually quite useful, and would probably help the authors state their case. The data are available as supplementary information on the Ben-Yosef et al 2019 paper, so it should not be difficult to do. Furthermore, a critique of the Ben-Yosef et al. paper would do well to point out some potential limitations on the use of Cu content as a proxy for smelting efficiency. --First, slags from pre-modern smelting slags are often quite heterogeneous. Because copper is heavier than the silicate matrix, it will tend to sink, so samples of slag taken from the top of a furnace slag cake will have less copper than a sample taken at the bottom. Many of these differences will be large compared to the average differences measured chronologically (a total range of about 1.5 wt% for the averages shown in figure 2.) For similar reasons, tap slags may differ in consistent ways from furnace slags. It may be worth looking into the Ben-Yosef et al 2019 supplementary data and methods information to see whether they took this into consideration. At the very least, it would be nice to have reassurance that they compared like to like (e.g. tap slags to tap slags). --Second, slag composition is dependent significantly on the composition of the ore. Ben-Yosef et al mention this briefly, but it is worth discussing more fully. If the copper content of the ore used declined over time, which one might expect as individual mines are worked out, the copper content of the slags would also decease. Could the decreasing copper content of the slags be explained by the progressive working out of the mines exploited during the Iron Age? This is probably worth considering. Discussion of these issues would strengthen the critique. 260-273. This discussion is not well supported. We have very little idea whether ancient smelters would have approached invention and experimentation in the same controlled way that R&D firms do today, only modifying one element of a procedure at a time. It is entirely possible that improvements were the result of post-hoc modification upon noticing an improved yield after an accidental modification of established procedure (i.e. copy errors, to use the term from evolutionary theory), rather than a goal-oriented, controlled experimental testing. 278-280. This speculation about the copper-iron chunks goes too a bit too far. These copper iron chunks are referenced periodically, but they have not been studied well enough, especially with respect to their microstructure, to be able to say what process they come from. In the section “Advanced Techniques and Managerial capabilities in the Arabah industry” the authors do not do a good job of explaining how these processes (trial and error, scaling up, administration) differ from those proposed in the 2019 paper. After all, the 2019 paper does argue for a gradual improvement in Cu smelting technologies prior to the alleged sharp break corresponding with Sheshonq’s arrival. Trial and error, and scaling up can all be incorporated into the evolutionary model proposed by Ben-Yosef et al. It’s the “punctuated” part of the “punctuated equilibrium” concept where the models differ. In particular, the sub-section discussing the importance of managerial quality doesn’t help us distinguish whether the relevant administrative team was of local extraction or foreign. 380-381. This final sentence is important. Given the adjustments to the Timna chronologies over the last 15 years, how accurate are the chronological designations for the Sinai copper exploitations, particularly LBA/EIA? 389-390. It doesn’t quite follow how the slower adoption of iron in Egypt contributed to the copper deficiency. Further elaboration needed. 404-405. What is the evidence that copper technologies in the Arabah were superior to those in Egypt? Missing here is a discussion of local Egyptian copper smelting technologies for comparison. 437-438. Similarly: could it be that TPII technologies haven’t been found in Egypt or Sinai because the Arabah has been the subject of far more intensive and extensive archaeological research? Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence, especially given the disparities in archaeological research. 440-441. “No evidence for such a presence can be gleaned from the finds.” I would rephrase this, because proponents of an Egyptian presence could counter that the presence of a few overseers or a small military detachment might not leave a massive archaeological signature, and there are a handful of Egyptian objects as noted above. What the authors could reasonable say is that evidence for a substantial Egyptian presence is limited or equivocal. Figure 5. I think “Slag buildup” is what is intended, not “slag built up.” And it’s Furnace not Furnance. Overall, I think that once these revisions have been made, this critique will form a useful contribution to the literature on technological change. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean? ). 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