Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionJune 18, 2021 |
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PONE-D-21-20054 Development of an expected possession value model to analyse team attacking performances in rugby league PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Sawczuk, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The reviewers have some concerns about the rigour of the research which will require particular attention. Please submit your revised manuscript by Sep 24 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This study investigated the validity of the evaluation method of team attacking performances in rugby league via expected possession value (EPV) models. The authors examined three EPV models (two with fixed zone sizes of ~5m x 5m and ~10m x 10m [Kempton et al. 2016, JSS], and one with aggregated zones based on the zones’ match EPV) analyzing attacking performance in rugby league. They identified the EPV model which provides the greatest reproducibility of match EPV between fixtures, and quantified individual teams’ attacking performances across a season using an EPV model. The motivations in this paper were clear and there were some contributions (to investigate the validity of EPV with 59,233 plays in 180 Super League matches), whereas the novelty was not so high (but this seems to be no problem in this journal). My major concern is that only one spatiotemporal resolution (EPV-19) is proposed and the results cannot conclude EPV-19 is the best. At least resolutions less than 77 and less than 19 may be required to conclude it. Furthermore, the interpretation of KL divergence may be wrong and the related part should be revised (for detail, see comment #5). For these reasons (including the comments below), the manuscript may be acceptable for me if the authors can solve these problems. Specific comments 1. In the introduction, other EPV studies (e.g., soccer and deep learning approach) should be referred to. For example: [1] J Fernández, L Bornn, D Cervone, Decomposing the Immeasurable Sport: A deep learning expected possession value framework for soccer, MIT SSAC, 2019 [2] J Fernández, L Bornn, D Cervone, A framework for the fine-grained evaluation of the instantaneous expected value of soccer possessions, Machine Learning, 2021 2. In the introduction, other rugby studies or methods related to movements and scores should be referred to. For example, see Related work in: Rory Bunker, Keisuke Fujii, Hiroyuki Hanada, Ichiro Takeuchi, Supervised sequential pattern mining of event sequences in sport to identify important patterns of play: an application to rugby union, 2020. 3. The above of Eq.(3): I am not familiar with Monte Carlo every visit algorithm. Please explain the summary of the algorithm and the reason why the authors selected it. 4. P7: the authors used linear mixed models to evaluate whether the columns or rows could be combined. However, there were no related statistical values. I wonder how the areas of EPV-19 were determined based on such an approach. A detailed and clear flow of the determination may be required for reproducibility. 5. P9: KL divergence is an asymmetric measure between probability distributions P and Q. In this case, what are P and Q? These should be specified with the definition of KL divergence (i.e., equation). By the usual definition, when Q(x)=0, the KL divergence will be an infinite value. This does not always mean P (or Q) is reproducible by Q (or P). In summary, I consider that the authors may misunderstand the interpretation of KL divergence about reproducibility (this is to measure the dissimilarity between two probability distributions). This point should be revised throughout the manuscript. 6. Results and Discussion: although the analysis using KL divergence may be useful in this study, the property in the similar reward distribution between previous and current matches may not be useful to extract meaningful information. For example, coarser resolution (e.g., EPV-5) may obtain more similar distributions to the previous matches, but more general and unmeaningful insight will be obtained. EPV-19 may be an appropriate resolution to obtain meaningful insight (e.g., Fig 4), but there were no related results and discussion. The analysis will enhance the validity of the authors' claims. Reviewer #2: The authors aim to use expected possession value (EPV) models to assess attacking performance in Rugby League. I agree that the event-level and spatial data used in this paper has good value and presents interesting opportunities for AI/statistical methods to improve match analysis in Rugby. Similar datasets have led to some very successful and interest papers at top AI venues when applied for football/soccer. It would be nice to see a more in-depth introduction and literature review about work in this space and valuing actions in sports data. This would help make the work more accessible to a wider audience who may not be as familiar with EPV models or Rugby League. A comparison in the differences between this work and that in [5] for football would also be of interest. I think the zone selection criteria the authors have used makes sense. However, it would have been nice to have seen a visual representation of these zones in the paper and potentially an experiment comparing the different approaches for zone selection, events that occur in those zones and how this would affect their model performances. In the data-processing it would be good to see a full-list of events that can end a sequence and then it would be interesting to explore the impact of negative reward-weights based on loss of possession at the end of a sequence vs other 0 events such as (penalties, scrums, kicks etc). Looking at the results to compare the 3 EPV models in Figure 2 - it seems like EPV-208 (A) may be using zones that are too granular and therefore does not have enough data to fully learnt the value of some zones (e.g., a darker zone behind the teams posts). EPV-77 (B) shows some better findings with large zones and EPV-19 (C) shows the most useful of results however I would expect most coaches were already aware of the findings. However, I think the charts shown in Figure 2 would be extremely valuable for a defensive coach when planning against an opposition as he/she would be able to understand where attacks are most dangerous. There could be more details around each of the models. The work in [5] showing an EPV model for football goes into a lot more detail around a single EPV model and I think this paper could benefit from a more detail throughout. I think it is important for the authors and reader to recognise the limitations of their work due to data etc. Finally, I think greater discussion into future work and real-world impact of the study could be beneficial. It would be good if eventually there is a free online source of the data used for a sample number of games in Rugby League as this would help with reproducibility and improvements of the models. Overall, I think the flow of the paper could be improved to help with readability but the work describes an interesting and sound evaluation of EPV models in Rugby League. The paper does report original research and with a few tweaks it will make a valid contribution to the base of academic knowledge in sports analytics. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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PONE-D-21-20054R1Development of an expected possession value model to analyse team attacking performances in rugby leaguePLOS ONE Dear Dr. Sawczuk, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please address the minor comments and then the paper will be ready for acceptance. Please submit your revised manuscript by Nov 27 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thanks for your response and revising the manuscript. I consider that the manuscript is ready for publication if the authors revise the following points. 1. L167: EPV-37, EPV-19, EPV-13 and EPV-9, EPV-308 zones -> EPV-37, EPV-19, EPV-13, EPV-9, and EPV-308? 2. KL divergence formula should be clarified (P and Q are not defined in this paper). ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. 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