Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionApril 29, 2021 |
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PONE-D-21-14181 Alteration of the corpus callosum in patients with Alzheimer’s disease: Deep learning-based assessment PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Kim, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Upon my own reading of the manuscript, like Reviewer 1, I had difficulty in understanding exactly how the deep learning method was developed and applied. As this is a key part of the manuscript, many more details need to be provided. Please see the recommendations of Reviewer 1 in this regard. Please also follow the suggestions of Reviewer 2 with respect to assessing the robustness/specificity of your findings. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jul 05 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I want to thank the authors for presenting an interesting, and scientifically relevant, manuscript on measuring various aspects of the corpus callosum in patients with Alzheimer’s Disease (VMD and MD) versus normal controls. They present results showing how various features of the corpus callosum (such as total length, subsection height, width, area, and so on) relate to cognitive function. They also perform an ROC analysis for distinguishing the patient populations using the most relevant corpus callosum features. They have a particularly good explanation in the discussion section for why CC length may be increased due to enlargement of ventricles, thus distorting the CC. Overall, the paper is well-written, with only minor English errors. The results are interesting, but there lacks an explanation of how they performed their deep learning algorithm, which, from my understanding, lays the foundation for their results. This algorithm is not mentioned in any meaningful way in the methods section. This makes the evaluation of the manuscript as a whole difficult. Major points: - Introduction: o 3rd Paragraph on deep learning � This paragraph needs to become clearer as it is too generalizing at the moment. What methods are being compared to the deep learning methods? There are both plenty of conventional programming methods (FreeSurfer, SPM, FSL, and so on), as well as many different types of deep learning methods (CNN, vector-based, PCA, and so on). There’s no need to explain all these in-depth, but it would improve understanding for the reader to know which ones you are referring to, without having to dive deep into the references given. � Not all traditional methods require handcrafting of the researcher (for example, Freesurfer will "recon-all" without user intervention). Although a manual intervention may sometimes improve results. - Materials and Methods: o MRI processing section � Did you use SPM12 for CC segmentation? Thus not a deep learning algorithm? It is not clear to me when the deep learning algorithm was applied. � Tell us more about the MATLAB-based code that was used for extracting the CC. This is the main methodology of your research paper, if I understand correctly? � How was the midsagittal slice decided? Or did you extract several slices in the mid-sagittal plane? The manner by which a midsagittal slice is extracted can influence the results quite greatly, as various angles will produce different results for the same CC. - Discussion o 6th Paragraph � Here you bring up that you used a Unet for automatic segmentation and extraction. And if I understand correctly, it was trained on the segmentations from SPM12. It is however unclear what the actual accuracy of your Unet algorithm is. Did you perform a cross-validation? This paragraph should be in the methods section, and explain in-depth how you constructed your Unet. How many convolutions? Which optimizer? How many images were used for training and testing? How was it validated? Learning rate? Batch size? Minor points: - Abstract: o Methods section � Please add the abbreviation “OASIS” as this is a well-known dataset. � Please include what type of deep learning technology you used, i.e.: “Deep learning using a convolutional neural network organized in a Unet fashion…” o Results section � Sometimes you write “MR measurements” and sometimes “MRI measurements”. Both are fine, but I think picking one or the other would improve the flow. - Introduction: o 4th Paragraph � Again, it would be nice to know which deep learning method you are using. � If using a Unet, there could be value in adding Ronneberger et al.’s article where the Unet was first presented. - Materals and Methods: o Patients section � In the second paragraph you mention that you exclude individuals aged less than 60 years to avoid the confounding of aging, which is known to influence CC size. There is no reference for this. Here’s a reference saying that there is no size difference due to age (which is what makes CC such a promising biomarker for patients with diseases where it actually does atrophy). PMID: 11445261. o Image acquisition section � A voxel is a three-dimensional pixel. If I understand your dataset correctly, it should state: "1 mm X 1 mm X 1.25 mm". o MRI processing section � What are you referring to as "soft tissue"? Aren't both white matter and gray matter soft tissues? - Discussion o 1st Paragraph � Mixing of past tense and present tense in two adjacent sentences, which I believe are both referring to the results of your paper (i.e. they should both be in past tense). o Last Paragraph � How was the mid-sagittal slice decided upon and extracted? Reviewer #2: The present study describes characteristics of the corpus callosum in older individuals with normal cognition (CDR=0), ‘mild dementia’ (CDR=0.5), and dementia (CDR=1-2), assesses associations between corpus callosum characteristics and MMSE score, and the diagnostic discriminative value of corpus callosum characteristics. I do not have the proper background to review the deep learning methods used in the paper, but I have some remarks based on other aspects of the paper: - It seems that the terms ‘dementia’ and ‘Alzheimer’s disease (AD)’ are used interchangeably throughout the paper. However, not all patients with dementia have AD. Some additional information on the diagnostic background of the cases would be helpful to clarify this. Was the clinical diagnosis for all cases with ‘mild dementia’ and ‘dementia’ Alzheimer’s disease? What diagnostic criteria were used? How was ‘normal cognition’ assessed? - When analyzing the associations between corpus callosum characteristics and MMSE score, it would be helpful to control for diagnosis (as a dummy variable) to make sure that the associations are not driven by diagnostic groups. - The relevance of assessing corpus callosum characteristics in Alzheimer’s disease is unclear. Why are the authors interested in this structure? What could be the added value of this marker compared with for example medial temporal lobe atrophy (i.e., what could be the added diagnostic discriminative value of corpus callosum characteristics on top of established measures such as medial temporal lobe atrophy)? - Similar to the previous remark: The authors find associations between corpus callosum characteristics and cognition, but is this not a reflection of cerebral atrophy in general? Could the authors control for cortical/global atrophy in their analyses? Or perhaps white matter atrophy? - Is any additional information available on the MRI characteristics of these cases, such as vascular damage / medial temporal lobe atrophy scores? It would be helpful to include this for better characterization of the study sample. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: Yes: Michael Platten Reviewer #2: Yes: Whitney Freeze [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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PONE-D-21-14181R1 Alteration of the corpus callosum in patients with Alzheimer’s disease: Deep learning-based assessment PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Kim, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please carefully consider the point regarding cross-validation, as suggested by the Reviewer. Please submit your revised manuscript by Oct 07 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Kind regards, Niels Bergsland Academic Editor PLOS ONE Journal Requirements: Please review your reference list to ensure that it is complete and correct. If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thanks to the authors for their re-working of the manuscript. You have done a good job. There is just one last thing that I think is necessary before acceptance. You have now presented the "training, validation, and testing" numbers. You have an accuracy of 91% with early termination. - Firstly, it's unclear if this accuracy is reflecting the validation or testing. I assume testing, but it could be both, as it seemed to have influenced an "early stop" when, I again assume, you reached the highest accuracy level. There's a bias in exiting training early at the highest accuracy level, as it can represent an overfitting of your own data. Considering the above stated, in combination with the fact that you only have a small sample size (100 - which is not atypical for biomedical scenarios - and thus why you aptly chose the U-net). I would like to see a cross-validation of your data (I'd recommend at least K-fold: 10, unless you want to do leave-one-out cross-validation). This will give you a better and more true reflection of the performance of your algorithm. It is not uncommon to just do a cross-validation with training and validation data (i.e. skip the test data -> you need as much as you can for the training). Also, have a pre-set number of epochs, and choose the accuracy of the last epoch (i.e. not necessarily the "highest accuracy"). When you do the cross-validation there should not be any tuning of the hyperparameters, as this will affect the results. In the end we are interested in how your algorithm performs without having to tweak it every single time it's applied. Also, please describe your metric "accuracy". I believe a dice-score metric would be the absolute best for your scenario, but several papers present the classic accuracy (TP + TN / TP + TN + FP + FN), as this tends to show higher accuracy. Reviewer #2: The authors have addressed all of the comments sufficiently. I have no further comments on the manuscript. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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