Peer Review History
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PONE-D-21-27099Using mass Spectrometry to investigate fluorescent compounds in squirrel furPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Hughes, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Both reviewers and I found the paper interesting. While reviewer 2 was quite positive about the paper, they also requested some clarifications. Reviewer 1 had substantial methodological concerns, specifically whether the wavelengths you used were suitable for detection of porphyrins. Please pay particular attention to these concerns in your response, as they are critical to the validity of your findings. Please submit your revised manuscript by Nov 28 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: N/A Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This manuscript by Hughes et al. describes the use of Fourier transform-ion cyclotron resonance mass spectrometry (FT-ICR MS) to identify mass features present in the fluorescence pelage of either the Southern or Northern flying squirrels, but not in the non-fluorescent fur of gray squirrels, red squirrels, or eastern chipmunks. By comparing the spectrometric profiles of fluorescent vs non-fluorescent fur, the authors identified 22 tentative compounds exclusive to at least one of the fluorescent samples; however, none of the compounds were present in both flying squirrel species. Moreover, through fluorescence spectroscopy, the authors propose that both the fluorescent squirrels and some of the non-fluorescent animals exhibit fluorescence. These findings lead the authors to claim that compounds responsible for fluorescence in flying squirrels may also be present in non-fluorescent mammal fur, and that there is a currently unexplained factor that leads to excitation of these ubiquitous fluorophores in flying squirrel fur. There are two experiments conducted in this study: fluorescence analysis and mass spectrometry analysis. The fluorescence analysis is performed by exciting extracted samples at fixed wavelength of 350 nm and scanning emissions from 400 nm to 600 nm; no rationale is given for the choice of these parameters. A glaring weakness of the selected excitation and emission wavelengths is that these parameters are ill-suited to detect the presence of porphyrins: the compounds the authors state are “...consistent with [their] findings.” Most porphyrins associated with fluorescence in animals absorb strongest near 400-410 nm and emit between 600-750 nm. As such, it would be difficult to deduce porphyrin-based fluorescence from the parameters used. Moreover, the authors note that both fluorescence fur and some non-fluorescent fur show some emission activity, which leads to the unsubstantiated claim that “some factor currently unexplained likely leads to excitation of fluorophores in flying squirrel fur.” The authors make no attempt to prescribe a structure to this seemingly ubiquitous fluorophore, but to this reviewer, all of the fluorescence spectra look like melanins, which are expected to be present in all types of fur regardless of fluorescence. The second experiment executed in this study is mass spectrometry. The authors run all of the fur samples under both positive and negative mode and use commercial software to delineate features from the fluorescence samples (ventral and dorsal) from non-fluorescent samples. The authors arrive at 22 features that have some association with fluorescence but make no attempt to proffer reasonable chemical structures for these features. The authors do provide software/database generated chemical formulas for the 22 features; however, many of these formulas are blatantly unreasonable (mammals do not make compounds with formulas such as C9H7F3N2, C9H8F3N3, C6H11I, CH5B2, etc.). While this reviewer understands that these formulas are not directly generated by the authors, some oversight is needed to prevent assertions that may offend readers with chemical backgrounds. While this reviewer is intrigued by the study, the questionable experimental designs coupled with the lack of meaningful interpretation leads me to recommend this manuscript be rejected for publication to PLOS ONE. Reviewer #2: This paper tackles fluorescence in mammals, a topic of growing interest. I found it to be exceptionally clearly written, and the methods to be strong and soundly explained. I have a number of minor comments, below and two more general comments. I wish all papers were this clearly presented! It was a pleasure to read. GENERAL COMMENTS (1) you find the same molecules in fluorescing and non fluorescing squirrels, and you even show that the supposedly "non fluorescing squirrels" are actually capable of some degree of fluorescence. Is it possible that these results can be explained by how much of the molecules is present in each? Maybe noticeable, measurable fluorescence is determined by amount (rather than presence or absence). (2) Fluorescence does not create light. Fluorescence is not glowing. Needless to say, YOU do not make these classic errors in this well-written paper, but the ill-equipped reader is also not directed to address these common misconceptions. This is a stylistic request of mine which you are free to ignore, but could you add some text to explain these common misconceptions? MINOR COMMENTS Page 2 - missing comma after "fully understood"- give an example of aromatic molecules? - when you say that molecules with a small HOMO-LUMOgap emits UV wavelengths, I find myself taking a pause to sort out whether in this case the molecules are fluorescing UV light-- rather than as is typically described in nature, absorbing UV light and emitting higher-wavelength light in the blue or green or even higher. Is it correct as written? Page 3 -briefly explain what a conjugated pi-bonded system is - in the third paragraph, can you briefly add what wavelengths of light are fluoresced for these examples? It is useful to know what the incident light color is and what the fluoresced light color is Page4 - can you say more about the evidence that nocturnal animal can detect fluorescent pigmentation? This is a conclusion that requires that there is ample UV illumination to produce fluorescence, and that the fluoresced light (as a subset of all reflected light) is sufficient to be detected by the animal in the relevant wavelength range. - when you say fluorescent porphyrins break down upon repeated exposure to UV, so we should expect it to be more common in nocturnal mammals, can you explain with one more sentence what you mean? that is, fluorescence is just a side effect of porphyrin chemistry, and therefore only mammals with limited exposure to UV should use lots of porphyrins? Page 5 - the paragraph starting "fluorescence in eutherian" is an excellent paragraph that frames the problem and question really well. Perhaps this paragraph should appear at the start of the introduction or near there? I leave it up to your discretion. Page 6 - is there a table of specimen numbers that you can reference here? - accidental comma instead of period in G. volans - how do you know the non-fluorescing species are non-fluorescing?- did you take the fur from the same "spot" on each animal within the dorsal and ventral pelages (in case of variation)? Page 7 -why only scan for emissions between 400 and 600 nm? Page 9 - Is it possible that the compounds were present in very different levels in the different species, accounting for observable versus non observable fluorescence? - indeed as I continue reading it appears that the gray and red squirrel fur are indeed capable of a small amount of fluorescence Page 10 - very clearly written! - when you say that the fur does not naturally fluoresce in grey and red squirrels, do you mean at an observable level or at all? (my same point as above) Page 11 - good explanation of the porphyrin arguments Page 12 - my understanding is that there is very little good evidence that fluorescence actually serves a perceivable purpose in signaling. Since other readers will likely approach this paragraph with the same skepticism I do, would it be possible to either explain the evidence to one degree further of specificity or temper the claims? Warmly, Dakota McCoy ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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PONE-D-21-27099R1Using mass Spectrometry to investigate fluorescent compounds in squirrel furPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Hughes, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. I have reviewed the revised version myself and find the response to the reviewers to be adequate, but I still have some concerns about the conclusions drawn by the authors. Their results were largely inconclusive, which is fine, but they need to explain more clearly what might cause some species to fluoresce and others not. Obviously there is some difference, they just didn't detect it here, and they need to provide a better explanation of what those differences might be. Please do this well, as I will not allow any more rounds of major revision. L16: Delete “We believe that” L23: consider->suggest L57: delete “well known to be” L64: delete “,” L65: delete “we would expect that” L284: delete “,” L292: see L23 above L311: This paragraph needs work. You did not find any differences between fluorescent and non-fluorescent fur. But clearly something is causing one to fluoresce and the other not to. What is it? You may not be able to answer this conclusively, but you need to provide some potential explanations, and suggestions for how to investigate them. If, as you suggest, the fluorphore responsible for fluorescence is common in squirrel fur, why does it only fluoresce in some cases? Could it be modified in some way? Or present in greater quantities? The following paragraph discusses tryptophan, but the discussion of porphyrin is unclear. How (as suggested in the abstract) do your results support a role for porphyrin in fluorescence? Are you suggesting that porphyrin is broken down or overaccumulated in the fluorescent species you studied? Here might be a good place to mention the methodological weakness mentioned by the reviewer, i.e. that your methods were not ideal for detecting porphyrin. Could you not detect differences in abundance of compounds? If so, you should also mention that here Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 24 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Using mass Spectrometry to investigate fluorescent compounds in squirrel fur PONE-D-21-27099R2 Dear Dr. Hughes, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Matthew Shawkey Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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PONE-D-21-27099R2 Using mass spectrometry to investigate fluorescent compounds in squirrel fur. Dear Dr. Hughes: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Matthew Shawkey Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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