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PONE-D-21-07935 Ermin is a potential marker of recent or ongoing remyelination PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Bø, Thank you for submitting your interesting manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by May 28 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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(Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This is a well-conducted study investigating whether Ermin could be used as a biomarker to evaluate the extent of remyelination in MS lesions. Ermin is an actin-binding protein likely implicated in the extension and wrapping of oligodendrocyte processes around axons and it is expressed in differentiated oligodendrocytes earlier than Nogo-A. I have only minor comments. Please cite the recent paper in Glia 2020 Wang S et al about the phenotype of the ermin KO mice. It is reported that these mice exhibit an aberrant myelin architecture in aged mice with the splitting of myelin layers and that they display an increased sensitivity to cuprizone demyelination. Is there any correlation between the density of ermin or nogo-A-positive cells in remyelinated lesions with the age of the patients? Maybe this would require a larger cohort. Could you comment on the relatively high density of ermin+ by comparison with nogo-A+ cells (more than twice) specifically in the gray matter of the cortex? could it be dependent on the layers of the cortex, on the age (8 weeks) of the mice? Minor typos Lane 129 rabbit Fig 5B correct gary instead of gray Lane 279 O1 and O4 are markers of oligodendrocyte progenitor cells Reviewer #2: In the manuscript “Ermin is a potential marker of recent or ongoing remyelination” Ahmad et al. perform a comparative histopathological analysis of Nogo-A and Ermin-expressing cells in human post mortem MS tissue and in different timepoints during and after cuprizone administration in rodents. They note a significant difference in the density of Ermin+ and Nogo-A+ cells in the first weeks of cuprizone administration and in remyelinated white matter in the human post-mortem tissue. Authors then conclude that Ermin is a rather earlier marker than Nogo-A and characteristic of ongoing remyelination. Although the expression profile of Ermin+ cells in the human tissue and the comparison with other markers of the oligodendrocyte lineage would be of potential interest, complementing works done in the past (such as on Nogo-A , DOI:10.1097/01.jnen.0000248559.83573.71) the results the authors present don’t really support the conclusions that the authors finally draw. At the moment, there is no strong evidence that Ermin is a marker of recent or ongoing remyelination. Ermin and Nogo-A are both considered markers of late oligodendrocyte differentiation and maturation and were both located in the non-compact myelin parts of the myelin sheath as assessed with immune gold EM ( DOI: https://doi.org/10.1523/JNEUROSCI.22-09-03553.2002, DOI: https://doi.org/10.1523/JNEUROSCI.4317-05.2006 ). Nogo-A colocalises also with CC1 another marker of mature oligodendrocytes that includes both myelinating and pre-myelinating oligodendrocytes (DOI:10.1097/01.jnen.0000248559.83573.71). Ermin was shown to be expressed rather late by the myelinating oligodendrocyte even slightly after MBP expression in vitro and after CNPase in vivo (DOI: https://doi.org/10.1523/JNEUROSCI.4317-05.2006, DOI: 10.1002/gli a.23838, https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.0500952102). These studies favour more the earlier expression of Nogo-A rather than that of Ermin as the authors claim in the present manuscript. Although both markers can be expressed by mature oligodendrocytes, in the present manuscript there is no indication that the expressing cells are mature cells that hadn’t yet undergone complete demyelination at least in the case of the cuprizone data. The difference in the number of Nogo-A and Ermin expressing cells during the cuprizone demyelination period is quite striking but it does not preclude differences in the sensitivity of the antibodies used. My worry is that since Ermin antibody stains also the myelin sheaths, it makes the precise quantification of oligodendrocytic densities difficult as in the case of other myelin markers (i.e.PLP,MBP,MOG) in areas where myelin is dense. In Fig1A the signal is uniform and dense and according to the graph in Fig2B the myelin content is not reduced until after week 4 in cuprizone treated animals for corpus callosum. During this period (1-3 weeks of cuprizone) there is a lot of myelin debris around engulfed by microglia so the difference in the Ermin+ versus the Nogo-A+ numbers can indicate dying cells rather than remyelinating ones at least in the corpus callosum. In the cortex (Figure 2E) the density of control Ermin+ oligodendrocytes is nearly double than that of Nogo-A. Also, the image in Fig1I does not agree with the myelin content in Fig2B. In none of the areas analysed there is a difference in the populations during remyelination after cuprizone removal and it is not clear how they detect spontaneous remyelination. Authors need to reconsider their outcomes and provide additional quantifications in combination with other mature (such as CC1, myrf) or general lineage markers like Olig2 to strengthen their initial claims. They also need to show that these Ermin expressing cells are not just dying cells that haven’t yet been cleared by microglia. Perhaps an in-situ hybridization for Ermin might be more conclusive in areas of dense myelin than the antibody. The expression pattern of Ermin and Nogo-A cells in human lesions can be potentially interesting. In the white matter areas of sparse myelination the numbers between demyelinated areas and NAWM are similar which is impressive and it would be interesting to see if the numbers are different to those of control tissue white matter. Authors need also to comment on why they believe there is no difference between NAWM and demyelinated lesion Ermin numbers and if they observe this difference with Nogo-A cell densities in these areas as well. An additional quantification with a different cytoplasmic marker of mature oligodendrocytes will show that indeed there is high presence of mature oligos in the area that express Ermin but not Nogo-A. Authors also need to show that there is no inflammation in the areas of remyelination and also show if there is a correlation with age and disease duration if possible. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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