Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionJuly 20, 2021 |
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PONE-D-21-23637 Test-retest reproducibility of in vivo oscillating gradient and microscopic anisotropy diffusion MRI in mice at 9.4 Tesla PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Rahman, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Both Reviewers have proposed a number of changes, which are complementary to one another. These suggestions are in line with my own reading of the manuscript. As such, I recommend that you follow their suggestions as best as possible. I recognize that scanning additional mice, as suggested by Reviewer 2, might not be feasible, but please consider the alternative option proposed. Please submit your revised manuscript by Oct 15 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The manuscript describes a test-retest analysis of diffusion MRI metrics derived from recently proposed technique on a 9.4T pre-clinical system. The manuscript is overall well written and the results are well presented and of interest to the neuroimaging community, nevertheless, several issues need to be addressed / corrected: Major points: 1. The authors should add an SNR analysis of their data. The results and their interpretation depend on the actual noise level, that, at the moment is included only in the discussion. Since the different repetitions are acquired separately, maybe the authors could consider the effect of different number of averages (and SNR) on the results. Also, this study employs an in-house built coil. How does the SNR compare to other standard coils? How do the results translate to other equipment? 2. Introduction – overall the authors should make clearer the fact that they are investigating two distinct methodologies, which are not combined in any way in this work. Also, the mentioning of microscopic (intra-compartment) kurtosis in the introduction is not needed, as it is not used in this work and confusing. The authors can add this to the discussion section instead. (If uK is discussed, then the authors should also include a reference to the recent work on stroke https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.20.432088v1.full) 3. In the variability analysis, the authors should also include standard DTI metrics (MD, FA) as a reference. 4. In the methods, the authors should provide more details about the computation of KLTE, KSTE, uA and uFA and provide the expressions used to calculate the metrics, as there is some confusion with the notation and meaning of the different parameters. The authors state “anisotropic kurtosis (KLTE – arising from the LTE acquisitions)” – However, by fitting a kurtosis term to the LTE acquisition alone (either to the entire data or the powder average), one obtains the total kurtosis, and not just the anisotropic part. So, the derivation and meaning of parameters need to be clarified. 5. OGSE sequences and Figure 1- the gradient amplitudes in the plots appear to be the same, while in the text, it’s specified that the b-value is the same, leading to different gradient strengths. Also, the gradient duration appears different for different frequencies, while in the text it is the same. Please make sure the plots and the text are accurate. Also, the shape of the sequence at 50 Hz is different than the others. How does the power spectrum look? Maybe add the power spectra for all sequences to Figure 1. For the sequence at 0 Hz, please specify it’s a PGSE with a certain gradient duration and diffusion time, rather than OGSE with 0Hz. Also, for sequences in Figure 1A and 1B, where the gradients are not refocused before and after the 180 pulse, did the authors consider the effect of the imaging gradients in the calculation of the b-value? Minor points: Line 95 – diffusion times achievable in PGSE can probe displacements on the order of 10-30 um, please rephrase. In the introduction, please specify that OGSE with low frequencies have also been shown to provide better contrast to cylinder diameter in the presence of orientation dispersion (Drobnjak et al, MRM 2015, Nilsson et al, NMR Biomed) Line 122-123 - DDE doesn’t necessarily require longer echo times compared to STE to achieve the same b-value. Please rephrase. The earlier DDE studies (Mitra 95, Cheng and Cory 99, Shemesh and Cohen 2011, Jespersen et al NMR Biomed 2013, etc) should also be cited. Notation – KLTE and KSTE, the LTE and STE should be with subscripts. Line 138 – Please also add citations to the following studies when referring to the use of OGSE for mapping axon diameter (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25809657/, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28774648/, https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/1396458/ ) Line 139 – please provide a more complete citation list relating uA to pore shape (Mitra 95, Cheng and Cory 99, Shemesh and Cohen 2011, Ozarslan JMR 2009, Lasic et al Front Phys 2013, Jespersen et al NMR Biomed 2013, Ianus et al NMR Biomed 2016, etc) Line 161 - typo – remove ‘an’ Line 169 - what was the age of the animals? How were the slices placed for the test and retest? Did the authors ensure their consistent positioning? Please specify. How was EDDY correction applied and did it have any effect? As per the documentation it requires images with close to opposite gradient directions, which I don’t believe it is the case for 4 or 6 directions. Line 270 ROI analysis – why for OGSE the signal was averaged in the ROI first, and then MD was fitted, while uA was fitted voxelwise? The analysis should be done in a similar way. Line 277 How was voxelwise analysis done for uA? Figure 2 – when plotting the diffusion images / maps, please make sure the image x and y dimensions follow the voxel sizes, as the brain appears a bit squished due to the anisotropic in plane resolution. Line 289 – Kiso should be high in regions of partial volume with CSF, rather than just CSF, which is likely the case here due to the thickness of the slices. Please correct. Line 307-308 – is the variability just related to the size of the ROI? The thalamus is not a very small ROI, but shows more variability in terms of tissue microstructure, as can be seen in an atlas or from stains showing myelin content for example. Line 339 – estimated bias – estimated mean? The authors just stated the biases are negligible. The Discussion should have a clear subtitle related to limitations. Reviewer #2: This contribution by Rahman et al. (PONE-D-21-23637) provides a thorough characterisation of inter- and intra-subject variability of metrics derived from advanced dMRI approaches including spherical tensor encoding and OGSE MRI in preclinical imaging. MRI experiments were performed on N=8 mice using a preclinical scanner (9.4T) and state-of-the-art gradients (1T/m) for the OGSE experiments. The mice were scanned twice within a span of five days, to allow for intra-subject variability assessments. Typical scan times, acquisitions, and analysis pipelines were used to make the findings as generalizable as possible. Inter- and intra-animal coefficients of variation and Bland-Altman metrics were computed, and the authors report a high voxel-wise reproducibility for most metrics except for dispersion rates, mean diffusivity subtractions, and K_STE, which were only reproducible with ROI based analyses. Overall, I find the study to be important to the field as it highlights constraints that need to be accounted for in many future studies. The study was well performed and will certainly fit the PLOS ONE readership, and the results are sufficiently novel for publication. I have only a few relatively minor comments which I am sure the authors can address upon revision: 1. I may have missed the point, but in line 170 the authors state that they chose the sample size to “...reflect common practices...”. While I do understand this, I would assume that to estimate the true reproducibility of the metrics, the authors would have to choose the cohort based on effect sizes and not on the “common practice”. 2. Outliers: I am wondering whether the authors tested for outliers and removed them, both voxelwise and animal-wise? This could dramatically change the conclusions. 3. I am suspecting (maybe I am wrong, but I have strong reasons to say this...) that the poorer CV’s in the OGSE data is not an inherent property, but is mainly due to the quality of denoising. Bruker EPI data is “spitted out” with zero-filling, which creates spatial correlations that significantly reduce the denoising quality (just iFT the Bruker b=0 and you will see the effect). Partial Fourier acquisitions exacerbate these further. I’d suggest the authors to either: a- acknowledge these limitations explicitly in the paper and/or b- acquire a couple of more animals without partial Fourier, denoise the data after removing the zero-filling (which is due to the gridding process in the recon) and see whether the CV’s improve. 4. In the Introduction, when discussing uA from LTE and STE, the authors should state clearly that the multiple gaussian component assumption was made, which may not be appropriate in many cases (there is a discussion in the end but I think it is appropriate to highlight this clearly in the Intro). 5. I think that in a study like this, it is appropriate to show raw data and preprocessed (denoised, unrung, etc.) data before the maps (even if in SI, though I always find this to be very important and try myself to keep it within the main text). 6. In addition, I believe it will be useful to show explicit S/N maps for the acquisitions at the zero and highest b-values, respectively. Noam Shemesh ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. 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