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PONE-D-20-38269 Intraspecific genetic variability and diurnal activity affect environmental DNA detection in Japanese eel PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Takahashi, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Mar 12 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: I Don't Know Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. 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(Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I have reviewed the manuscript “Intraspecific genetic variability and diurnal activity affect environmental DNA detection in Japanese eel” by Sayaka Takahashi et al. This study found the mismatch on the priming region of the species-specific probe for Japanese eel caused to under-estimate of eDNA concentration. Besides, it was suggested that the diel activity rhythm affect eDNA concentration. These findings offer an important message for future eDNA studies. However, I have several serious concerns about the experimental design and manuscript in its present form. I like the data the authors present, but it falls short of a stand-alone paper about the effect of probe mismatch for detection and the diurnal activity on eDNA concentration. Much more experimental work and careful discussion are required for this to exist as a stand-alone paper. <major comments=""> L67-69: I am very confused because I understood that the purpose of this study was to examine whether the mismatches of the specie-specific probe leads to a decrease in detection (L98-99). L59-60, 70-73: There are duplications of text content between paragraphs. L88-93: To clarify the significance of this study, it is necessary to explain what problems may occur if there is diurnal variation in eDNA concentration of Japanese eel. We agree that there are contradictions in results among previous studies, but you should not discuss based on studies using some taxa with very different ecological characteristics. L75, 100: What is "individual differences"? (ex. size, figure, sex, physiological state, nutrition condition etc.) In this study, only the difference in activity was considered. L155-162: The amounts of extraction reagents written in the manuscript are different from those written in the Environmental DNA Sampling and Experiment Manual (v. 2.1). Is the first centrifugation a newly added step? Also, how was the filtrate from the first centrifugation processed (discarded or kept) ? L170-176: The D-loop region has a higher mutation rate, so intraspecific genetic diversity is more likely to accumulate. Even though other species-specific primers which were designed in other regions with lower mutation rate than D-loop have been published, why did you not use them? L174: The Japanese eel-specific probe used in this study had MGB fluorescent dye. The use of MGB accentuates the difference in Tm due to SNPs, so the probe is less likely to anneal to target region when there is a mismatch in the priming site. Please add discussions about the possibility that the MGB emphasized the effect of probe mismatches on DNA detection in this study. L226-230: I don't think the method of scoring the activity used in this study is appropriate. How was the score for each activity determined? Why didn't you use the amount of movement distance per unit of time or the number of respirations or fin movements? I think the current scoring system underestimates the amount of action to get out from a pipe and forage for food. L359-361: I am very confused because there is a lack of explanation about Figure 2D. Why only five amplification curves are shown in figure 2D? Also, why are the collection dates of the samples different? (Not standardized to a specific day, ex. the first day, of each experiment cycle) L365-368: From the second day, the eDNA concentrations of all eels without probe mismatch increased significantly. Considering this result, it is natural to assume that the eels with mismatch also likely released more eDNA on the second day than the first day. Please add a discussion about the reason why no DNA was detected after the second day, even though there may have been more eDNA. L383-386: To design a more robust species-specific primers/probe, all obtained sequences should be used and compared to select SNP-free regions. Consensus sequences are not simply calculated based on the number and frequency of mutations. In addition, it is important that the selection of the target region. There is more mutation in the mitochondrial D-loop region because it has a higher mutation rate than other regions. The selection of cytb, 16S and 12S etc. decrease the risk of unexpected mismatch between primer/probe sequence and the target region. L386-388: Japanese eels spawn near the Mariana Islands, and juveniles are randomly carried by ocean currents to the coast of Japan. Therefore, it is not surprising that 20 individuals purchased from the same aquaculture provider have different haplotypes. L428: I couldn't understand what this sentence was referring to. Please add a more detail explanation. L438-439: Why is it limited to mucus? I am very confused. L453-454: I think that the Japanese eel "ecophysiology" was not examined. In addition, it is difficult to say that it revealed the effect of "behavior" on DNA concentration because this study only evaluated whether the eels were out of the pipe and/or moved their caudal fins. Fig.4: Please use same Y-axis range among graphs. Table S1: Which primers were used for Sanger sequencing of each individual? If the DNA amplicon was sequenced using the same primers as qPCR, you will not be able to find mismatches in the priming sites of the primers. Additionally, what does the ( ) on the reverse primer site indicate? ・This study does not explore the effect of probe mismatch for detection enough. While probe mismatches are likely to inhibit the detection of the target sequence (I agree with this), if the authors are serious about making a contribution to this issue, they should have examined the impact of sequence mismatches on detection rate using a known concentration DNAs. ・In experiment 1, authors cannot exclude the possibility that the eel with the sequence mutations released less eDNA than other eels. To investigate this possibility, it is highly recommended to quantify DNA concentrations by both of TaqMan and intercalater methods (ex. SYBR Green) to clearly show that sequence mismatch of TaqMan probe is inhibiting detection. Although the authors emphasize the high species-specificity of the primers/probe (in methods and discussion), it is not so important in this study because only eels were kept in tank.</major> Reviewer #2: Manuscript PONE-D-20-38269 This manuscript asses the effect of intraspecific polymorphism as well as diel activity rhythm on eDNA detection/quantification in Japanese eels (Anguilla japonica). In a set of experimental tanks, the authors found that the presence of DNA polymorphisms located within the probe region of some individuals (2 eels), tends to underestimate the quantification of eDNA when qPCR method is employed. Moreover, a correlation between eDNA concentration and eel activity was found, being higher at nighttime. The manuscript is well written and the methodology is mostly clear, although further editing and additional information is necessary. I found this paper interesting and I think that has the potential to increase our knowledge about eDNA detection and quantification. However, I found several issues that should be addressed before the acceptance of the manuscript. - In my opinion, the choice of marker was poorly justified. It is well known that Dloop is one of the most polymorphic region within the mitochondrial DNA. Do the authors expect to have such an impact in the case of other, less variable, markers. On top of that, it will be important to report the level of polymorphism (at the probe region) on natural populations of eels. Thus, this will allow the reader to identify the magnitude of the bias when screening natural populations. - Related with the previous point, I was surprised that the authors didn´t test additionally the use of degenerated probes in order to surpass the underestimation of eDNA (or the lack of detection). - I was wondering if the total amount of DNA extracted from the filters was independently quantified using other methods (e.g. Qubit). This would allow to discard that underestimated samples (e.g. “Mutants”) didn´t have less amount of total DNA than the others. - I was also wondering if inhibitor´s test were performed, particularly for those samples were no detection was possible. It is expected that Negative samples spiked-in with positive controls should amplified in the absence of inhibitors. - I think is more correct to use “polymorphism” instead of “mutation” all over the text. The “mutants” that are reported here, seem to be common polymorphisms in natural populations. - Despite the fact the authors performed 3 replicates per sample for eDNA quantification/detection, I was wondering why they use only 1 biological replicate. Each time, only one water sample was taken. The authors should discuss this point and it will be important to know if the level of variation within tank at each time-point was significant. Minor comments: L28: intraspecific L41: polymorphic sites at the probe region L97: to identify factors L117: Miyazaki (Japan) L125: from May 25, to June 14, 2018 L126: unused? L205: In my opinion, Table 1 could be shown as supplementary table. L235: 23, and July ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. 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PONE-D-20-38269R1 Intraspecific genetic variability and diurnal activity affect environmental DNA detection in Japanese eel PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Takahashi, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ============================== I got the recommendations and comments from a previous reviewers. The reviewer agree that the manuscript is improved but suggested that more experimental work and careful discussion are necessary for examining the effect of mismatch between probe and target sequence on detection efficiency and provided other major/minor comments. I totally share these comments. Therefore, I can invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised by the reviewer. ============================== Please submit your revised manuscript by Jul 01 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Kind regards, Hideyuki Doi Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (if provided): I got the recommendations and comments from a previous reviewers. The reviewer agree that the manuscript is improved but suggested that more experimental work and careful discussion are necessary for examining the effect of mismatch between probe and target sequence on detection efficiency and provided other major/minor comments. I totally share these comments. Therefore, I can invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised by the reviewer. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: I Don't Know ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I have re-reviewed the manuscript “Intraspecific genetic variability and diurnal activity affect environmental DNA detection in Japanese eel” by Sayaka Takahashi et al. The revised manuscript addresses some of the major concerns; however, several more experimental work and careful discussion are necessary for examining the effect of mismatch between probe and target sequence on detection efficiency. I offer a few major and minor suggestions for improvement below. ・The current title and text may cause the reader to misunderstand. This study suggested that mismatches between probes and target sequences, not genetic diversity, affect the efficiency of eDNA detection. In fact, SNP at a site other than the priming sites of primers and probes do not affect the estimation of eDNA concentration by qPCR. ・In the responses to the reviewer, the authors used the same primers with qPCR for the Sanger sequencing to check the presence of SNPs. Again, “if the DNA amplicon was sequenced using the same primers as qPCR, you will not be able to find mismatches in the priming sites of the primers” because the priming site of the primers is replaced by the primer sequence. I think, this study did not examine whether there was a sequence mismatch in the primer positions (not probe). According to Kasai et al (2020), the priming sites of the primers sometimes have SNP. Thus, in my opinion, without confirming that there is no mismatch in the priming sites of the primers, the results in this study cannot properly understand and discussed. <introduction> ・The overall impression is redundant because the point of the argument in each paragraph is not clear, and similar content is written several times. L55-56: Itakura et al. (2019) demonstrated that eDNA analysis allows us to reveal the spatial distribution, abundance, and biomass of Japanese eels at the river-basin scale. L73-75: Is this true? I think, the relationship between eDNA concentration and biomass and/or the number of individuals is a major topic that has been examined by a great number of studies, and some of which have reported a strong relationship. L79: “The eDNA concentration increases 10–200× during spawning [35].” → "[25]" ? L90: Ghosal et al. (2018) reported that the carp eDNA concentration increased 500× at night when the fish biomass only doubled. However, this experiment was carried out under special experimental conditions. Thus, descriptions with generality should be avoided. <materials and="" methods=""> L157, 169: “-20 °C” → “−20 °C” L182: “Each PCR reaction system included” → “Each PCR reaction included” L190: “There were three replicates per sample” → There were three replicates per sample “and standard DNAs”? L198: “each target species” → each target individual ? L174-176, L423-426: I still have a question as to why we did not use other species-specific primers and probe sets designed in other regions. Again, the specificity is not so important in this study because tank water was used in all experiments. In the responses to the reviewers, the authors accepted that D-loop is more likely to accumulate intraspecific genetic diversity than other regions. The other mitochondrial regions can also be polymorphed, but the "mutation rate" vary widely among regions. I agree that the presence of polymorphisms is an issue to be generally careful. However, in the eDNA study, the risk of underestimation caused by the primer/probe mismatch can be reduced by selecting regions that generally have lower mutation rates than D-loop. In my opinion, in this manuscript, the authors should include the discussion about the selection of the target region to reduce the risk of mismatches and the reason why the primer-probe set designed in the D-loop was used in this study. <discussion> L394-396: The eDNA concentration was different among samples. Thus, the comparison of Ct values here is meaningless. ・In my opinion, in all tables and Figures, eDNA concentration should be shown per volume of filtered water (500 mL) or per PCR template (2 µL). ・Please check the following points: (1) Are coloured letters allowed in PLOS One? (2) Are the legends inserted in the correct place in the manuscript? Table1: Please add the Tm of the probes that are expected in each situation (Non variant, Vatiant-1, and Variant-2). Fig2-1(D): What does the Y-axis indicate? Fig2-1 and 2: To compare the eDNA concentration for each sample quantified by TaqMan (Fig. 2-1) and SYBR (Fig. 2-2), I recommend using sample-specific marks. Fig.2-1(A), 2(A): The red and orange dots are difficult to distinguish, so I recommend changing the colour. S2 table: “between 5'-primer F and probe” → “between 3'-primer F and probe” ? “between probe and primer R-3'” → “between probe and primer R-5'” ? “*Green: base different from sample 0525_A-1.” → What does 0525 mean?</discussion></materials></introduction> ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. 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