Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionDecember 13, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-38684 Simultaneous confidence intervals for all pairwise comparisons of the means of delta-lognormal distributions with application to rainfall data PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Niwitpong, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Mar 25 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Please see our Supporting Information guidelines for more information: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/supporting-information. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors present a good study on the topic meeting all the necessary requirements of a new research. So I recommend the publication of the manuscript in its present form in PLOS ONE. However, the following correction may be made in the revised draft. In line 59, 'is' should be replaced with 'as'. Reviewer #2: Thank you for giving me the opportunity to review this manuscript. It is a solid and interesting paper, however, the focus is very much on mathematical aspects/proofs of statistical techniques that had not yet been fully developed for the special case of the delta-lognormal distribution. I am actually surprised that the authors didn't choose a statistical journal. Also the majority of references stem from explicitly statistical journals. As the focus of PLOS ONE is decidedly interdisciplinary, I think this paper in its current form is far too technical to be of use to anyone outside the statistics/math community. In this form it would probably be better suited for a statistical journal. The motivation for the methods developed in this paper is rainfall data, but I think that most people working in that area would have considerable difficulties in understanding that paper and not find it useful for their work. Therefore, I recommend a thorough rewrite of the paper to be much more understandable for readers from various disciplines before it can be published on PLOS ONE. Please finde my specific comments below: Major points: 1. Rewrite the manuscript as a "story" for non-statisticians. This includes - Move theorems and proofs in an appendix where people with a specific mathematical interest can find them. - Explain to non-statisticians why the issue of having simultaneous confidence bands is important. - Formulate with word what you are doing mathematically and why you are doing that - Stress even more the practical use of your methods, especially in introduction and discussion. - You use a lot of abbreviations. This is necessary to avoid to lengthen the script, but it also makes it even harder to read. Maybe you could add a list of all abbreviations to look them up if necessary? - I was surprised to see that the word "sampling" or "sampling distribution" never occurs in that paper although many methods are sampling-based. Please change that and give more explanations of the differences between the methods for non-statisticians. - To make your proposed methods useable in practice, you should not only explain the algorithms, but maybe provide the code or at least give information on statistical programs to use. - Take more time to explain the results of both the simulations and the application and their respective meanings. 2. I don't understand the relative average lengths. Why is MOVER taken as reference? What is meant with "less than 1 and the minimal value"? What is this minimal value? Would not a ratio smaller than 1 mean that the respective SCI is better (given a comparable coverage probability)? Because that would mean it's smaller than the corresponding MOVER SCI? I have probably understood something wrong, but this should be all the more a reason to explain that better. 3. The authors use AIC on page 14 and in Table 4, but they don't explain how they get it. Give a thorough explanation how you provide those values and how the models are exactly calculated (apart from the different underlying distributions). 4. Please mention which statistical program you used and if possible provide your code. Minor points: 1. Would it be possible to also provide the data set in the supplementary material in a form ready to be used? If one wanted to use the data in the current form one would have to type all values from Table 3 in a data set. 2. Sometimes definitions are hard to find or not there. For example, T on page 4 and R on page 6 seem to come out of nowhere. 3. I couldn't find where the abbreviation "CLT" on page 9 is introduced. As said above, a list of all the abbreviations would be helpful. 4. Delete the information on the flooded cave system from p.14. It has already been given in the introduction and is of no additional use here. 5. Mention what bold face means in the tables. I couldn't find that information. 6. What does "MOVER satisfies the accurate criteria" (tables) mean? Reviewer #3: This paper builds upon several works on simultaneous confidence intervals (SCI) based on parametric bootstrap, fiducial confidence interval, variance estimates recovery and credible Bayesian intervals. The latter based on mixed and uniform priors. The authors focus on the delta-lognormal distribution and motivate their study by claiming that SCI can help decision-makers to avoid the impact of unexpected events during the rainy season. See File in the attachment for the complete review. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes: Julia Braun Reviewer #3: Yes: Antonino Abbruzzo [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. 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PONE-D-20-38684R1 Simultaneous confidence intervals for all pairwise comparisons of the means of delta-lognormal distributions with application to rainfall data PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Niwitpong, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jun 18 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Kind regards, Mohammad Asghari Jafarabadi Academic Editor PLOS ONE Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #3: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #2: Thank you for addressing my comments. The new manuscript is much more easily readable and better understandable. I recommend to accept this paper, I just have a few very minor recommendations: 1. I don't think it is necessary that each formula has its own number, I think it is enough to give a number to the ones which you further use or refer to. This makes the manuscript even easier to read. However, that's an editorial question and therefore it's not my decision if that should be changed or not. 2. Page 11, first sentence: Please delete "using RStudio". Instead, please add another line at the beginning of the results section: "R, version (...edit version...) was used for the computations of the simulations and the application." or something like that. Please note that it is not important if you use RStudio or not, it's the R version that counts. 3. Page 11, Simulation results, line 263: Delete "even". 4. Page 16, lines 288 - 290: This sentence is grammatically a bit weird and I didn't fully understand it. Please rewrite. 5. Page 17, line 291: Delete "the". Reviewer #3: I am sorry, but I don't think the authors have adequately addressed my comments, and I feel that this manuscript is not acceptable for publication. Next, I will give some examples. Example 1) I had raised the following point: - The results look like a simple extension of the following papers [2], [1], [3] and [4]. The authors must clarify their contribution. For example, it is not clear whether the authors propose the theorems presented in the paper. Authors response: This is an excellent point raised by the reviewer. In Paragraph 4 of the Introduction, we have clarified our contribution and clarified its context in relation to studies [1–4]. In Supporting information (S1 Appendix), we have carefully checked the contexts of the theorems, as the reviewer requested. I checked Paragraph 4 of the Introduction, where the authors write: "Our contribution to the field is constructing SCIs based on our proposed methods to elucidate the pairwise differences between the means of multiple delta-lognormal 59 distributions." which I don't think can be considered a satisfactory explanation. Example 2) Technical mistakes. I had raised the following point: - Formula (3), what do the authors mean by Var(θ_i)? Unless you assume a Bayesian framework and so θj is a random variable, this doesn't make sense. Perhaps the authors intend Var(θ ̂_j)? A similar mistake is repeated in lines 72-73. Even if the authors write Var(θ ̂_ij) the equality would not hold unless you assume 〖COV(θ〗 _i,θ_j)=0. Authors response: We thank the reviewer for these helpful suggestions. In Eq (3), we intended using Var(θ ̂_j), and so have done so throughout this manuscript. Moreover, in lines 86- 88, we assume that θ ̂_j and θ ̂_l are independent random variables, and so the covariance becomes 〖COV(θ〗_i,θ_j)=0. So, the authors correct the first technical mistake. However, it doesn't make sense to assume θ ̂_j and θ ̂_l as independent random variables since these quantities are estimated from the data, and so the dependence must be proved. Example 3) Technical mistakes. I had raised the following point: -Formulae (7) and (8) are not correct. Response: Eqs (7) and (8) have been edited, and we have added the details are related to both of equations, as shown in Lines 98-99. Unfortunately, Formulae (7) and (8) are still not correct. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #2: Yes: Julia Braun Reviewer #3: Yes: Antonino Abbruzzo [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. 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Simultaneous confidence intervals for all pairwise comparisons of the means of delta-lognormal distributions with application to rainfall data PONE-D-20-38684R2 Dear Dr. Niwitpong, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Mohammad Asghari Jafarabadi Academic Editor PLOS ONE Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #2: Yes: Julia Braun |
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PONE-D-20-38684R2 Simultaneous confidence intervals for all pairwise comparisons of the means of delta-lognormal distributions with application to rainfall data Dear Dr. Niwitpong: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Professor Mohammad Asghari Jafarabadi Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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