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PONE-D-20-38543 PKCδ deficiency inhibits fetal development and is associated with heart elastic fiber hyperplasia and lung inflammation in adult PKCδ knockout mice PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Gotoh, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Further studies and clarifications need to be provided, including better presentation of the differences and similarities found in the new KO model relative to the old KOs, and accuracy in the description of quantitative phenotypes. Please submit your revised manuscript by March 3rd, 2021. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Partly Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors describe a new knockout of the PKCd gene where they have targeted Exon 7. Previous knockouts have targeted the first two exons and this leaves the possibility that alternative splice forms, not using these early exons, may be expressed. In contrast, Exon 7 is required for all isoform bar IX (although this could be made clearer in Figure 1). With the new KO, embryonic survival is compromised and hardly any KO mice are generated. This is potentially important as it suggests the previous conclusion that PKCd is not needed for survival or breeding may be incorrect and it perhaps also uncovers some important in vivo roles for specific isoforms. Overall, these models could be very useful in understanding PKCd function – and this is a valid and worthwhile undertaking - but in many cases, considerable further study will be required to understand mechanism. As an initial report that PKCd may be essential, the work is quite convincing. There are however a few areas which should really be strengthened or clarified to make this case more convincingly, and there are number of other areas where current analyses could be improved. Major Point: Clarity of the approach and comparison with other PKCd KOs 1. In the original PKCd KOs it is stated “ PKCδ–/– mice developed normally and were fertile.” https://www.jci.org/articles/view/12902 and “The PKC-δ-/- mice were viable up to 12 months of age, despite detection of auto-immune disease in these animals (see below).”https://www.nature.com/articles/416865a. The authors state in the current paper (line 75: “Although these studies reported significant findings, the PKCδ KO mice used in these studies lacked only the PKCδI and δII isoforms.” This is reastsed in the conclusion. This is completely critical to the manuscripts originality. Both initial PKCd KO mouse models indeed targeted exons early in the gene leaving the possibility that alternative splice variants may be made. However, in Mecklenbräuker et al, it is stated that “The absence of full-length or truncated PKC-δ in lymphocytes was confirmed by immunoblot analysis of cell lysates”. Likewise in Miyamoto et al it is stated that:“Neither full-length nor truncated PKC-δ protein was detected in PKC-δ-/- mouse cells by immunoblot analysis” While it is understood that these immunoblot analyses are far from conclusive, it would be useful to have some direct evidence that these other models do indeed still generate alternatively sliced PKCd isoforms. Are there any published studies showing alternative PKCd isoform expression in these previous KOs? Could cell lines from these KOs be tested by qPCR or Western to show other mRNAs or proteins are indeed made? The previous authors could reasonably be requested to provide cell lines to test this. 2. The authors approach was to target Exon 7 using a conditional approach, which is common to many more isoforms. However, as with the original KOs, exon specific deletions can cause all manner of unexpected effects. For example, truncated products could perhaps now be produced from the early part of the PKCd gene. Discrepancies between phenotypes might easily be caused by production of PKCd fragments acting in a dominant way. Could the authors describe why they are convinced this would not be the case? Careful use of C and N-terminal directed antibodies on lysates would be a start. qPCR to look for truncated/alternative mRNAs could be another approach. Phenotypes of the new PKCd mouse: There is a lack of statistical analysis throughout the manuscript. Lack of stats on all ratios being a good example. Table 1, Table 2. Chi2 tests needed on all data. In many cases this will be very convincing. For many of the embryo and tissue analyses, there are convincing differences but it is reported in an anecdotal way which could benefit from more rigorous stats. As an example, survival data looks really convincing but it needs to be better displayed and subjected to stats. Line 236: “The lifespan of all PKCδ KO mice born …” Could this data be presented graphically as a proper survival analysis? Is there enough data fro a Kaplan Meier plot with stats to be included? Breeding pairs from surviving PKCd KOs show convincingly that the males are fertile and provide additional indication that females may have reproductive issues. The data on the females is a little less convincing. Out of four pairs of KO x Het, three generated 3 offspring which survived to at least 4-weeks, which given the lethality of their KO is pretty good. Data with KO x WT are slightly at odds with this (all off spring died). The authors state this requires further work. This could be usefully strengthened prior to publication if numbers have been improved and also, the data might be more clearly presented with a table. Separating causation between heart and lung pathologies is very difficult. While the authors observe changes in elastic fibres, and state this is predominant, I would urge caution on attributing this directly to loss of PKCd in this organ. With the numbers observed and the strong pathologies in both heart and lungs, further analysis is needed here with greater numbers and better statistics to (i) accurately and statistically define the problems and (ii) suggest functional experiments to test causation. This will likely involve additional conditional crosses. While I do not suggest this is done for the current report, I would suggest the text makes clear that these effects could all be secondary to other problems occurring during development. Minor: On line 75-77 the authors state: “PKCδ plays a critical role in B cell homeostasis and tolerance, highlighting its potential role in the treatment of autoimmune diseases [18]. “ A reference is missing from here. Two papers showed the B-cell phenotypes, both published in Nature in 2002. https://www.nature.com/articles/416860a Line 263 “…of four KO mice, indicating bad air content, as observed by HE staining (Fig 3B). What is meant by bad air content? Do the authors mean poor lung perfusion? Reviewer #2: Niino et al have analyzed the role of PKC delta isoforms using mouse genetics and identify requirements during heart and lung development. The scientific question, addressing PKC delta isoform diversity, and the genetic approach are excellent. However the mouse phenotyping needs to be significantly improved in order to provide any mechanistic insights into PKC delta function. A number of suggestions follow. 1. In the small percentage of surviving mice, were the authors able to confirm previously shown requirements for PKC delta in B cell and smooth muscle homeostasis? 2. The main paragraph on page 15 ending with "require further experiments" should be shortened. Can a potential maternal defect be demonstrated statistically? Can the authors speculate on a potential cause? 3. Did the authors formally demonstrated that the enlarged hearts are hypertrophied? Was cardiomyocyte cross-sectional area evaluated? Were other markers of cardiac hypertrophy evaluated? The calcification needs to be documented in more detail. Is this within ventricular muscle? Please add arrowheads to this figure to indicate the salient points. Are the authors sure the structure highlighted in Figure 4 is part of the heart rather than accumulated blood cells or debris in the ventricular lumen? The elastic fiber results should be confirmed at high magnification and with other markers. Finally, did the authors examine knockout hearts without the cardiac phenotypes? 4. The authors find that most homozygous mutant embryos die at or prior to E11.5. After histological analysis at this stage the authors conclude that cell proliferation was poor and certain organs, the heart and lung, were immature. This point needs to be analyzed in more depth. On what basis do the authors make their conclusion on proliferation? What do they mean by "immature"? Are they implying an overall growth delay? Please show how this is evident for the heart shown in B-10 compared to that in B-3 for example? The authors need to qualify the defects in the hearts in more detail, scoring for example chamber development, compact layer thickness, myocardial differentiation. Given the mortality at this time point it would also seem important to analyze earlier developmental stages. 5. Please say more about the "conspicuous deformation" seen in the lungs? What do the authors mean by the term "bad air content"? 6. Can the authors use their conditional allele to look at cell/tissue type roles of PKC delta? 7. The top panels in Figure 5 can be omitted, as can the empty panel 4. Perhaps the authors could illustrate a smaller number of control and mutant embryos at higher magnification. Minor points 8. The pictures of the heart in Fig3 would be improved if taken under buffer (PBS) to avoid reflection. 9. Data in Table 2 should be condensed. 10. Please spell out EVG and MT on first mention in the results. Reviewer #3: In manuscript “PKCδ deficiency inhibits fetal development and is associated with heart elastic fiber hyperplasia and lung inflammation in adult PKCδ knockout mice“ authors Niino et al., show how depletion of PKCδ (splicing variants I, II, IV, V, VI, and VII) affects fertility and development of mice. Authors demonstrate that PKCδ -/- mice are fertile but number of PKCδ-/- offspring was reduced. Furthermore, they observed defects in heart, lung, and spleen development. Presented manuscript thus points to protentional role of PKCδ in both development and in maintenance of homeostasis. Results are clearly described. I have only minor suggestions: - Description of Fig1 should be contain the source references - Authors analyse four PKCδ -/- mice, which show different results. It should be summarized in table and observed phenotype should be connected to sex and age of analysed mice. ********** 6. 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PONE-D-20-38543R1 PKCδ deficiency inhibits fetal development and is associated with heart elastic fiber hyperplasia and lung inflammation in adult PKCδ knockout mice PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Gotoh, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Some problems with statistics and interpretations still remain. In addition, a few minor points need to be addressed. Please submit your revised manuscript by 5/21/21. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Kind regards, Diego Fraidenraich Academic Editor PLOS ONE Journal Requirements: Please review your reference list to ensure that it is complete and correct. If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. Additional Editor Comments (if provided): Some problems with statistics and interpretations still remain. In addition, a few minor points need to be addressed. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. 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Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The efforts to include Kaplan Meier analysis and some statistical analysis is appreciated. 332- 339: this section is confusingly written and I think needs clarification. Are the authors saying the embryos were implanted at Mendelian ratios but that most KOs were dead at E11.5? Table 2 still appears to lack stats. The data in this table are none-the-less interesting but the interpretation remains difficult. Het off spring die as readily as KO offspring from the KO crosses suggesting a rearing issue rather than a viability issue for the young. Drawing conclusions, clearly they KOs can produce offspring but are unable to rear the young. This is difficult to research and draw solid conclusions from which the authors acknowledge.. Reviewer #2: The manuscript has been revised and some of my earlier points answered. The following points should be addressed: 1. Lines 236-240 are not very conclusive or informative. These should be rephrased or deleted. The discussion of this point on line 424 may suffice. 2. Is there experimental justification to use the term hypertrophy on line 460 (see replies to previous comments)? Reviewer #3: I have no other comments. All my questions and suggestions were successfully responded by authors. ********** 7. 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