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PONE-D-21-10116 No evidence for increased fitness from multigenerational effects of parental size or natal resource quality in the burying beetle Nicrophorus marginatus PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Belk, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. This manuscript has been assessed by two reviewers who both felt it had a lot of strengths, but also have a number of comments that require further clarification. Please address all of these comments when revising your manuscript. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jun 07 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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[Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The manuscript tests whether variation in two aspects of the parental environment, i.e. parental body size and size of breeding resources, affects offspring fitness. The results suggest that there are no such multigenerational effects. The authors employ a sound experimental manipulation and carefully interpret the results in this very well written manuscript. My main comment is to develop the rationale for the study (see my comment below). When I first read the methods, I was also concerned that the sample size may be too small to have confidence that null results are likely truly null (91 data points across 16 treatment groups). However, the authors found statistically significant effects elsewhere with the same sample size. If trans-generational effects are expected to be of a similar magnitude, there should have been enough power to detect them. Other than that, I only have minor suggestions. A point that I think is important to emphasise throughout the paper is why and when (adaptive) multigenerational effects are expected to evolve in this system. Burying beetles experience a lot of variation in the size of the carcasses they encounter in the wild. Body size also varies a lot between generations because it is contingent on sibling competition and resource acquisition during larval development. Given so little reliability of the future environment for offspring, it seems unlikely that anticipatory effects could evolve. And, if they exist, these effects might be very small relative to effects of the current environment, such as size of the current carcass. Any such multigenerational effects could thus be masked by the influence of current environment. In other words, it is not clear to me why we should expect to see multigenerational effects in burying beetles. I suggest that you make a stronger case and clarifying the arguments for why this species provides a good system to investigate multigenerational effects. In some places the authors use "resource quality" to refer to "carcass size", which can be confused with other aspects of the resource (e.g. nutritional value, freshness). This confusion can be avoided by using "amount of resources", or simply "carcass size" or "carcass mass" in place of "quality". In the abstract, you point out that there was no evidence for increased fitness as a result of multigenerational effects (line 32). Given that these effects could be in both directions, increasing or decreasing fitness, I suggest rephrasing to make the sentence more general. For example, you could say that there was no evidence that multigenerational effects contributed to fitness or, to be more explicit about directionality, that there was no evidence for increased fitness resulting from multigenerational effects in favourable natal environments. The introduction provides a clear account of the topic and introduces the study system very well. My only comment would be to add predictions regarding the direction of the multigenerational effects. Some of these predictions are already provided in the last paragraph of the discussion. It would be useful to have them earlier on so that the reader is better prepared to assess the methods and results. This could also help motivating the study and provide reasons as to why we should expect multigenerational effects on fitness in burying beetles. Is it because carcass size in previous generations would be a reliable cue for carcass size or the intensity of competition in current generation? In lines 80-81, do you consider effects of the current carcass as multigenerational effects? This is not necessarily intuitive given that the size of the carcass can impact directly on the offspring feeding upon it, even though parents secure the carcass. Reviewer #2: Reviewer comments for PLOS ONE manuscript PONE-D-21-10116 This manuscript describes an experimental study examining potential lifetime fitness effects transmitted through parental body size and natal environment quality. The study uses the burying beetle Nicrophorus marginatus which uses the carcasses of dead vertebrates as breeding resource. The authors generated multigenerational effects by varying the size of both parents and the size of the carcass in a parental generation and monitored subsequent effects on the lifetime fitness of female offspring when breeding on carcasses of different size. There was no evidence that parental body size or natal resource size had an effect on lifetime fitness of offspring measured as lifespan, lifetime number of offspring and number of offspring in the first brood. This study addresses a gap in our understanding of maternal effects by examining whether such effects actually translate into differences in offspring fitness. This study therefore builds constructively upon prior work which has shown consequences for offspring phenotype but in proxies for fitness rather than fitness itself. Overall, I found this to be a clear, well-written and well-motivated study. However, I have some concerns about how these results would play out in the natural ecological context of these beetles. I also have some lingering questions about the statistical analyses and decisions in the experimental design. Main comments 1. My main concern is to do with the ecological context of the study. As the authors acknowledge in their discussion their experimental design removed competition over carcasses. However, competition is likely to be a very important component of lifetime fitness in these beetles. This is because carcasses are required for reproduction and therefore only beetles that are able to successfully compete and win control of a carcass will be able to produce any offspring at all. Furthermore, body size is the key determinant of success in such competition. In other words – only offspring of sufficient size to be competitive will be capable of securing any reproductive success/fitness at all. This means that the most important link between maternal effects and offspring fitness is through effects on competitive ability (mediated through body size) rather than the ability to rear offspring in a competition free environment. Thus, by divorcing the study from this natural context the authors may be underestimating the potential importance of these maternal effects to offspring fitness. That is - although the authors show that multigenerational effects do not influence offspring’s lifetime fitness in the absence of competition – it is possible that in a more natural context (that includes competition) such multigenerational effects may be very important. The authors do acknowledge this point in their discussion (lines: 271-288). However, I think this caveat needs to be worded more clearly and more strongly (not least for the benefit of readers unfamiliar with burying beetle ecology). For example, in their discussion the authors somewhat dismiss the importance of competition by arguing that population density & carcass availability are likely to fluctuate and that therefore competition (and any selection on body size) will be periodical. However, surely this is only true if there are years where carcasses are so abundant that small beetles are able to secure them without competition. Is such a scenario likely? It’s hard to say! This argument also ignores the fact that when suitable carcasses are scarce (which I would imagine is not uncommon even if there is variation) then any selection will be very strong – as only suitably large beetles will be able to gain any reproductive success at all. It would be nice to see the authors acknowledge more clearly the role of competition in determining offspring fitness in this system. 2. I wonder why the authors chose to analyse their data using parental size as a single factor with four levels (large♀-large♂, large♀-small♂, … etc.). This approach assumes that the effects of parental body size are the same for both sexes and that there are no interactive effects of male and female body size. Given that the authors varied both male and female size separately in a crossed design wouldn’t a more informative approach have been to include male size and female size as separate factors (each with two levels) and also to include the interaction between the two? 3. Can the authors provide justification for the particular range of carcass sizes used in the study? For example, are N. marginatus typically found on both 20 & 40 g carcasses in the wild? The reason I ask is because although larger carcasses provide more resources they are also potentially harder for the beetles to bury and prepare. Therefore, a carcass that is too large may represent a challenge to reproduction. I assume this is not the case, but it would be reassuring to know that these beetles are not being presented with a challenge they are unlikely to be adapted to. 4. I may be misunderstanding the results here but did the authors find that offspring reared by larger females (or on larger carcasses) eclosed into larger adults in this study? One lines 226-229 they reference finding such an effect from a previous study but it was not clear to me whether the same effect was detected here. 5. In a similar vein some of the data that appeared to be collected is not presented in the results. For example, it would be interesting to see if the proxies for offspring fitness that are sometimes used by other studies (e.g. offspring body mass at dispersal) present a different pattern as the measures for lifetime number of offspring. This might reinforce the authors argument that proxies based on offspring phenotype are not reliable measures of offspring fitness. 6. Could you provide information on the number of reproductive bouts that females in second generation achieved before they died? Based on the number of offspring in the first bout vs lifetime number of offspring it seems like females are breeding 2 or 3 times? Is that correct? It would be useful to know how many times a female is able to breed under these ideal circumstances (well fed, ready supply of mates, ready supply of carcasses and no competition) because as I argued earlier – it seems likely that in burying beetles some individuals will die without ever having secured a carcass to breed which is why potential maternal effects on body size might be more important. 7. Females in the second generation always bred on the same size carcasses throughout their lifespan (either small or large). I understand the rational behind this (as varying carcass size between bouts would make the experiment very unwieldy) but I wonder if the authors found any evidence that consistently breeding on a high or low quality resource influenced reproductive decisions in any way? For example, do females that keep getting small carcasses decide that things are not going to get better and so invest more (i.e. produce more offspring) on their second or third small carcass than they do on the first? This is likely beyond the scope of the current paper but I am curious if the authors have considered this at all. Minor comments 1. A diagram of the experimental design would be useful. The methods are explained very clearly but a visual representation of the two generation set up might be helpful. 2. Line 281-284: Is this line referring to the fitness of the female parent or the fitness of her adult offspring? The preceding statement seems to be referring to the fitness of offspring – which I think should be the focus of this paragraph – but this line seems to refer to the fitness of the female parent. Can you clarify this? 3. Line 226: Typo – the period after “beetles” should be a comma I think. 4. Line 197-199: It would be helpful to clarify why this particular interaction was included. If I understand correctly, it is because it allows the authors to test if parents “prime” their offspring for reproduction on a particular carcass size – which is one way that multigenerational effects may act. For example, if female offspring reared on a 40g carcass produced more offspring when breeding on a 40g (in comparison to female offspring reared on 20g breeding on 40g). ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. 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