Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionFebruary 10, 2021 |
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PONE-D-21-04649 Water-immersion finger-wrinkling improves grip efficiency in handling wet objects PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Davis, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Your manuscript has been seen by two expert reviewers. Their comments are attached. Reviewer 2 was entirely positive. Reviewer 1 had some major reservations. I invite you submit a major revision that addresses all comments of Reviewer 1. These include especially the framing of the research question, the description of the methods and results, and the analysis of age groups. Please submit your revised manuscript by May 03 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The PLOS ONE style templates can be found at https://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/file?id=wjVg/PLOSOne_formatting_sample_main_body.pdf and [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The manuscript deals with the relationship between grip force and load force of a simple finger force movement under three conditions: dry fingers (reference condition), wet fingers and wrinkling fingers. The author shows that in the wet condition, a significantly higher grip force is developed in the load task than in the dry condition. Interestingly, the wrinkling fingers condition results in a higher grip force than the reference condition, but lower than with wet fingers. The work is of interest because of the number of participants analysed (N=516). Nevertheless, I have several concerns about the manuscript that need detailed and thoroughly revision. The most important are the following: 1) The research question(s) is not precisely stated nor justified. 2) The paper looks at a very heterogeneous age group. Considering the data provided by the author, the range is 2 - 71 years. This is neither in anatomical-physiological nor in psychological-cognitive sense a uniform group from whose behaviour one can draw general conclusions. Considering the age range, the assumption of a linear relationship between grip/load ratio and age is worth considering. 3) Why were characteristics of touch sensitivity not measured? There is psycho-physical and anatomical evidence for age-related differences. 4) The description of the methodology is insufficient. Which statistical tests were used, which post-hoc tests, which correction procedures for unequal numbers of participants (e.g. Dry=231, Wet=72, Wrinkly=211)? The description of the figures is insufficient, the legends are incomplete and contain commented parts that belong in the discussion. What is the meaning of the coloured areas in Fig. 2? How was the average calculated? Is it the mean of all valid trials or is it the mean of the subjects' individual averages? In the latter case, how was intra-individual variability considered when calculating the averages (see age distribution)? In which interval were the data for Fig. 4 calculated? What does the inter-individual variability look like? Reviewer #2: This is a simple and clear experiment performed on a high number of individuals. It is aimed at describing the usefulness of finger wrinkles evoked by hand immersion in water. The study shows that wrinkled fingers exert better grip force coordination than wet fingers without wrinkles. The performance with wrinkles is closest to dry fingers than to wet and wrinkleless fingers. Wrinkly fingers reduce the grip force required to grasp objects, indeed participants with wet fingers used more fingertip force than participants with dry fingers, while participants with wrinkly fingers lied in between. Evolutionary considerations in the discussion open the field to different scientific domains. Although I see some limitations of the study, most of them acknowledged in the manuscript, I think this work is fresh and interesting. A positive aspect is the number of participants (more than 500). A nice evolution along this line would be to test the same task in the same individuals in the 3 different experimental situations, rather than 3 groups of participants, each one involved in only one task. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). 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PONE-D-21-04649R1 Water-immersion finger-wrinkling improves grip efficiency in handling wet objects PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Davis, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Reviewer 2 is happy with your revisions. Reviewer 1 feels that the manuscript does not reflect the full potential of the study with respect to the dependence of the findings on age. Please consider the reviewers comments and decide whether you want to expand the manuscript to include this analysis. As reviewer 1 indicated that s/he is not available for further review on this study that manuscript will not be sent to reviewer 1 again. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jul 02 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Kind regards, Markus Lappe Academic Editor PLOS ONE Journal Requirements: Please review your reference list to ensure that it is complete and correct. If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The author has answered the majority of the comments. Unfortunately, the relevant problem of the age dependence of the grip-force load-force ration has not been answered. The author writes in lines 189-191: " There was a small but significant correlation of this ratio with the age of the participant [r(514)=-0.149, p<0.001]. The ratio declined by 0.014 per year of age, although the variance explained by a linear regression was very low (R2=0.022)." and notes in his reply: "[… ] The reviewer makes the very good point that we might not expect a linear relationship to hold between these measures when looking at such a diverse cohort. However I did not have any reason to hypothesise any other form of relationship either, […]." Here I must clarify that there are clearly other results in the literature. It has been shown that motor skills of different complexities (e.g. Fig. 4.4 in Godde, Voelcker-Rehage, Olk, 2016 or Fig. 2 and 3 in Voelcker-Rehage, 2008) are highly non-linear in their execution as well as their learnability. I have recalculated the linearity noted by the author using the data provided. The values given by the author (see above) can only be obtained if all data are combined, regardless of the experimental procedure (dry, wet, wrinkled). When the data were considered separately, significant but weak relationships were found for dry and wet and no significant relationship for wrinkled. It can be assumed that the correlation found is due to the high number of participants in the very young to young age range. In order to compensate for the existing numerical imbalance in the number of participants in the age groups, it is necessary to calculate the mean ratios per age group and correlate these values with age. The attached file GripLoadRatio_LogMeanValues.pdf shows my rough calculation of the data. There is a clear non-linear relationship between grip-force load-force ratio and age for all three groups (note the logarithmised y-axis). Only mean values with n>1 were used to calculate the regression curves. These results show that developmental differences can be found even in a simple grasping / loading task. Since this task does not require any complex cognitive-coordinative prerequisites, the observed differences can be assumed to be due to differences in sensory and motor domain. The question therefore arises whether the above-mentioned differences are not only due to cognitive developmental stages but also have a physiological basis. The comparison of the individual regression curves further shows that for the tasks dry and wet a comparable behaviour can be found across the lifespan, whereas under the condition wet higher grip forces are used especially in the younger age groups. This confirms the author's statement that "[…] Fingertip wrinkles would seem to afford an enhanced advantage in object handling, [...] (lines 255-256). In the present version, the author only confirms the work he himself cites using data collected in a nice "science meets people" setting. The potential of the collected data is not used. References Godde, Voelcker-Rehage, Olk. Einführung Gerontopsychologie. UTB Uni-Taschenbücher Bd.4567, Verlag: Ernst Reinhardt / UTB, 2016. Voelcker-Rehage C. (2008) Motor-skill learning in older adults—a review of studies on age-related differences Eur Rev Aging Phys Act (2008) 5:5–16 Reviewer #2: The Author addressed properly the suggested revisions . I think the results are informative and deserve publication. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email PLOS at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step.
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Water-immersion finger-wrinkling improves grip efficiency in handling wet objects PONE-D-21-04649R2 Dear Dr. Davis, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Markus Lappe Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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