Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionMarch 30, 2021 |
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PONE-D-21-10444 Which early indicators associated with outcomes in very old critically ill patients? PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Payen, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ACADEMIC EDITOR: The manuscript presents an intersting and relavant analysis. But the population is small and eterogeneous and there is not a sample size calculation. So the results should be interpreted with caution. Which type of study is this? cross-sectional study as defined in the abstract or a prospective observational cohort study? Some important informations about the reason for Admission and first therapy are also not so clear. There are no conflicts between the reviews so that it's clear which advice the authors should follow. Please authors should answer to all the questions moved by the reviewers, to make the manuscript suitable for publication. Please submit your revised manuscript by May 31st. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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(Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The study "Which early indicators associated with outcomes in very old critically ill patients? presents an interesting Analysis on older patients admitted to ICU and Outcome prediction. The study is intersting a relevant but I'd like to highlight a number of issues thet should be adressed be the authors: The title should include "are". 1)I would suggest to use "octogenarians" intead of "very old patients". 2)How could a stay longer than 24 be predicted? 3) It is not clear how a "end of life" decision before 48 Hours excluded patients from the study and not when taken later during the Hospital stay. 4) The authors should specify the reason for Admission. When they stated Surgery, does it mean post surgical? Was it post emergency or planned surgery? 5) The Population is relatively small and Comes from four very different ICUS. 6) Th ereason for Admission to ICU may also have played a role an certaily would help to direct the Interpretation of the results. What was the main failure or combination of filures? What was the Treatment initiated (e.g. mechanical Ventilation/Dialysis) 7) I appreciated the idea of TLT. Did the Authors looked at SOFA Change and absolute number at 24 or 48 Hours? Would they expect them to be different? 7) Was there any power Analysis done? 8) How would this results practically Impact on clinical decision making? Reviewer #2: Thank you for asking me to review this exciting manuscript. Summary Payen et al. evaluated the association of early indicators, i.e., the SOFA score at admission (day 1) and day four, along with other factors, with long-term outcomes, i.e., 90-day mortality and functional status among ≥80-year-old patients. They found that the combination of day 4 SOFA score and other factors associated with mortality increased the prediction of death as evidenced by the AUROC of 0.81 compared to the only SOFA at day four is 0.72. In addition, they found that SOFA at day four, unlike at admission, was significantly associated with mortality. However, this asserts the message that predictive tools should not be used in isolation to determine outcomes for individual patients. Provision of a time-limited trial is, therefore, could potentially be justified; however, these results ought to be interpreted with caution because of the petite sample size. While there are ample studies on elderly patients and factors associated with their outcomes, both short- and long-term, this study focuses on using the SOFA score akin to a time-limited trial to assess association with long-term outcomes. While it’s not novel but highlights an important message, due to some of the methodological challenges, the validity of the results is in question, especially related to the functional assessment. Major comments 1. Methods a) The authors should highlight the sampling method used for this study. b) How did the authors arrive at the sample size they needed? There was no sample size calculation description made. The authors should perhaps give the reason for this. Sample size is essential for a study whose aim is to assess the predictive ability of tools like the SOFA score and other factors. c) The function assessment was both with regards to independence (self-sufficiency) and functional activity. However, the Katz Index of Independence in Activities of Daily Living (ADL) assesses independence, while the Lawton Instrumental Activities of Daily Living (IADL) assess functional activity. However, in lines 121-124, the authors indicate that the tools were assessing the opposite i.e., “An ADL score of 6 indicated full function, and a score of 2 or less severe functional impairment. Full independence was indicated with an IADL score of 8 and dependence with an IADL score of 0.” Perhaps the authors can provide clarification to this. Minor 1. General comments a) Some minor grammatical errors need to be fixed especially in the results section as well as clarity of writing for the reader to grasp the message e.g. Figure 1, “End-of-decision < 48h after admission” 2. Title a) The title doesn’t highlight the key aim of the research, which is to use SOFA score in conjunction with other variables in predicting long-term outcomes of very old critically ill patients. b) Perhaps the authors should consider highlighting the SOFA score in the title and including the study design in the title. 3. Abstract a) However, the abstract refers to it as a cross-sectional study (line 33), while the methods section, line 82, refers to it as a prospective observational cohort study. The authors should clarify this discrepancy; however, this is a prospective cohort study by design. 4. Methods a) It is clear how long the follow-up period was, i.e., 90 days after ICU admission; however, the authors should include how long the recruited patients. When did the recruitment end? b) It is unclear why night or weekend admissions were excluded. c) In Figure 1, Exclusion based on “Unknown reason” is unclear. Authors perhaps should explain these criteria with some examples if possible in the Results section. 5. Limitations a) Due to the petite sample size, the authors clearly state that their results ought to be interpreted with caution. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). 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Dynamic SOFA score assessments to predict outcomes after acute admission of octogenarians to the intensive care unit PONE-D-21-10444R1 Dear Dr. Payen, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Martina Crivellari Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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PONE-D-21-10444R1 Dynamic SOFA score assessments to predict outcomes after acute admission of octogenarians to the intensive care unit Dear Dr. Payen: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Martina Crivellari Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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