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Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Overall comment The authors compared the performances of distance sampling and spatial capture recapture models to estimate abundance. They performed a simulation study and a real-life case study that allow a complete evaluation of the methods. This work is timely and particularly well implemented. However, I think the manuscript lack of clarity to have a good assessment of the work performed. Apart from raising minor concerns about the methodological aspect, I suggested substantial modifications of the writing and the structure of the manuscript, especially the introduction and the methods sections. Once the manuscript will be made clearer, I suspect it will be a (very) good paper. Main comments Most of my comments target the Introduction and the Methods sections. I had trouble to follow these two paragraphs and I suggested some rearrangements. Abstract L13-14. I’m not sure we could say that search encounter SCR have rarely been applied. Doing a quick look at who cited the Royle et al., (2011) paper, I found 40 papers. I have not read all of them but I made sure that several implemented some king of search encounter sampling design. What do you names a search encounter SCR? Do you named “search encounter” SCR a model in which the study area is continuous, rather than composed of discrete sites? Introduction To my mind, the first paragraph of the introduction is too short. I would hope to have more contextualization. Why comparing DS and SCR is relevant? What was the results of previous comparisons between DS and classical CR models? I would not use subtitles in the Introduction, you can keep it neat. I think there is too much information about modelling techniques in the introduction. I would prefer to present the model in a general context, what do they estimate? from what kind of data? The pros and cons of DS and SCR. What is a search encounter SCR? I would keep the technical part for the Methods section, which correspond to most of the DS and SCR paragraphs (e.g. modelling assumptions, g(0), the different kinds of modelling techniques, etc). Most of the “Distance sampling paragraph” in the Introduction should be in the Methods section. L56: To my mind, you cannot write g(0) for the first time and use it in the entire paragraph without any equation. As you describe a general context, you can remove “g(0)” and discuss in terms of imperfect detection on the transect line. L57-59: This sentence could be simpler. Maybe something like “Often, detection is not perfect on the transect line due to availability and perception biases. For example, some individuals are unavailable for detection, or observers do not detect all individuals”. L72-73: “during a sampling occasion”. And actually, I don’t think it is an issue if an individual is detected multiple times during the same occasion. The case study paragraph is better suited for the introduction and the DS and SCR. L124-125: I would remove this sentence. L127-128: I don’t understand why estimating g(0) and space use parameter would produce less precise estimates for SCR than for DS. Can you explain? L126-131: There is no relation between these sentences and the Case study subtitle. That is why I would remove subtitle for example. Methods I got a bit confused by the organization of the Methods section. I found it hard to follow as there are repetitions with the paragraphs of the Introduction that present DS and SCR. I suggest beginning the Methods by describing the formulation of the DS model and the SCR model. When doing this, I would like to write the explicit formulation of i) the latent abundance model, ii) the detection probability (you added it for the simulation but not for DS or SCR). Then, you can detail the simulations scenarios. Then, the right whale case study. Finally, the Bayesian implementation. Simulation scenarios Why does the number of sampling occasions in not consistent between the different values of g(0) in the simulations? L151-152: How many occasions? L163: Why is sigma_d = 1/3? L181: Why is sigma_m = 4? DS You should merge this paragraph with the DS paragraph of the introduction. It is not clear how you spatialized the DS models to estimates density. I understand you modeled density as a quadratic function of the covariate but I would like to have an explicit formulation of this relationship somewhere. SCR Idem, I suggest you merge it with the SCR paragraph of the introduction. Case study L259: Why is M=259? Results L275-276: I find this sentence hard to follow. Maybe split it in two parts, or add a comma after “0.8”. Discussion The discussion is clear and complete. I like it a lot ! One question, how do you explain the difference in abundance estimates between uniform DS and SCR models? L318: I think some developments exist to deal with such issues. For example, binned detection probability account for imprecision in distance estimation. Minor comments General comments about the writing. In scientific writing, I would reduce the use of “this/these” in the manuscript. I prefer to make shorter sentences with repetitions, which I suspect would make the text clearer without making it heavier. I noticed it in the Introduction and the Methods section, either it disappeared in the lasts sections, or I got used to it while reading… Keywords: maybe add “simulations”, and “NIMBLE” in the keywords if possible. The first one help to highlight an important part of your work as I suspect your simulations would be looked for by many scientists that use these methods. The second granted the NIMBLE team for their huge work on developing and maintaining NIMBLE. L13-14: I would remove “this” and repeat “Search encounter spatial capture recapture”. And clarify which models are compared. L18: I would remove “did”. L22-23: If you want to make a list, I would repeat “when” at each iteration. L222-224: I suggest to write the g(0) prior clearer. There is an open bracket that is unclosed. Maybe “as a prior for simulated g(0)= 0.8, we used g(0)~Beta(…, …)”. And repeat every time. Reviewer #2: Overall I really liked this paper. It is well-written, well organized, and provides a useful comparison among models that should be applicable to real-world data. I have some overall concerns, which I don't think detract from the value of the info the paper presents, but accounting for them might put the paper into a better context. First, it's unclear to me how frequently the situation occurs in the real world where you have repeated samples of the same transects within a single short period. Arguably one of the advantages of distance sampling is that you can avoid repeated sampling of the same transects. Are the advantages (in terms of more precise/less biased estimates) worth the extra cost of doing the repeated samples? In this case the authors already had the extra data, but what would be the authors' recommendations to someone designing a new study from the ground up - is the increased modeling flexibility worth the cost (and the added assumptions about individual animal behavior)? Second, if you have repeated transect data (as the authors do in both the simulations and real world data) wouldn't a distance sampling model specifically designed for this type of data, like Chandler et al. (2011), which allows estimation of temporary emigration/availability, be more appropriate than a standard distance model for comparison? Especially since the authors point out the issue of NARW sometimes being deep underwater and unavailable. The authors cite the Kery and Royle book which discusses this model (section 9.5, pg 483) so perhaps they used it, but it didn't look like it in their methods (or code) to me. Seems like it should at least be mentioned as an alternative. Specific Comments L18: What "nominal" credible interval coverage means was not immediately clear to me and probably won't be for many reading the abstract, is there a way to present this more clearly? L19: You correctly point out the additional SCR assumptions, but maybe also worth pointing out that it avoids another commonly made assumption when using DS, that g(0) = 1? So there are some trade-offs. INTRO Overall I thought the summary of the DS/SCR was really well-written and should make this comparison accessible to a wide audience. Nice work. L44: This is not strictly true, though. For example if animals are avoiding the observer at short distances and there is a "shoulder" at the beginning of the detection curve that you correct for with e.g. a hazard-rate function. L51: In a way you consider both methods in this study, right - line transect with two points at either end? Or do you mean specifically for the explanation, you only consider line transects? L61: Double observer/MRDS can't address non-availability (g(0) = 0), though, since presumably neither observer can detect an unavailable animal. Separate studies or maybe multiple repeated transects could allow estimation of availability. Might be worth saying here which reason for g(0) < 1 each analytical approach can potentially address. The way it's worded now it implies either approach could solve either (or both) reasons for g(0) < 1. Or maybe phrase it as MRDS/double observer can handle 0 < g(0) < 1, while a secondary study or perhaps repeated samples (e.g., Chandler et al. (2011) "Inference about density and temporary emigration in unmarked populations") could handle g(0) = 0 during a given sampling event. L65: See also Oyster et al. (2018) "Hierarchical mark‐recapture distance sampling to estimate moose abundance" for an interesting recent approach to estimating availability to aerial transects. L73: "at most once during sampling" --> "at most once during a sampling *occasion*. I tend to think of "sampling" as all the sampling occasions combined. L120: "NARWs often move between sampling occasions" - is this a reason DS is less appropriate? Presumably with DS you would normally be sampling a given transect only once (I think your protocol is a bit unusual in this regard?) so this movement wouldn't be relevant. Unless you think they are being double-counted on different transects that occur at different times. L147: Could emphasize here that your range of g(0) values does not include a scenario where some animals were actually completely unavailable to be detected. L151: Was the number of occasions per scenario always > 1? I assume so unless there were some scenarios where you only fit DS models. This begs the question, to me: if you have repeated transects already, wouldn't a generalized distance sampling model like Chandler et al. 2011 that uses repeated samples of a transect/point to estimate temporary emigration/availability in addition to abundance be an interesting comparison to make with SCR? It's a bit unclear to me how you handled repeated samples of the same transect with DS. Did you just treat each transect * occasion as an independent "site"? Also, to what extent do NARW fit the general assumption of SCR, e.g. that individuals are moving around an unobserved home range center? I don't know much about whales but it seems less likely to be the case than e.g. with small mammals, or birds moving around a territory (as in the original Royle paper). METHODS Paragraph beginning L155: Easy here to get confused between distance to activity center (d_ij) and distance between individual to transect (distance_ij) and the associated scale parameters. Maybe add a summary sentence distinguishing between the two? Or use a different term/parameter name for 'distance_ij' (or vice-versa) so it is not so easy to get confused. L201-202: How frequent were these situations where you had to discard a simulated dataset due to non-convergence? Did it happen at the same rate for DS and SCR models? Any ideas as to what characteristics of the datasets made them fail to converge? This seems like useful practical information - I would guess that for a given dataset you would be more likely to have convergence problems with the SCR model given its additional complexity. If so that is a potential additional drawback of SCR since presumably some real-world datasets will also have convergence problems. L190: Might want to mention that the models are described in detail in the next section, I got a bit confused by the organization here. L205: Might want a short paranthetical explaining what you mean by "credible interval coverage". L211: This combo of point and line data collection is pretty interesting and your approach to solving it makes sense to me. However, I wonder how often this end-of-line data is collected in typical DS sampling datasets? What percent of your real-world observations fell into these points at the end? Did you check to see if your estimates from DS and SCR were any different if they were excluded? The point + line thing is just an additional layer of complexity here that might be better to minimize in a comparison paper like this if it's not a situation that is likely to be generally true in other studies. L240-242: This data definitely seems like a perfect candidate for the generalized distance sampling model I mentioned earlier (e.g. see gdistsamp() in R package unmarked) especially since you don't appear to have double observer data. Might be a more "fair" comparison with SCR since both would make full use of the repeated samples. At least worth mentioning that it could be done. RESULTS L283: I'm not exactly sure what you mean by nominal/not significantly different from 95% here. Do you mean that 95% of the 95% credible intervals contained the true value? Might explain this a bit more. DISCUSSION L314-316: Use of the SCR works under the assumption that transects were surveyed multiple times within a short time frame. My sense is that part of the appeal of distance sampling is only having to survey once. Are the advantages of the SCR worth the extra cost of multiple surveys (either in $ or by reducing the total number of sites surveyed) over just doing DS on one transect? Would be interesting to see what kind of abundance estimates single-occasion DS (either on simulated data or your NARW data) gave relative to SCR. L338: Repeating earlier comment: I wonder how often data are actually collected at the end of the transect lines like this. Definitely something to be careful of. L389: I tend to agree that the assumption of an animal moving around an activity center does not seem to match NARW. How do you think this might have affected your abundance estimates, if at all? L416-417: Again, what about generalized distance sampling estimating availablity (vs. standard DS)? I would still expect SCR to be better, but an advantage of GDS vs SCR is that you wouldn't have to uniquely ID individuals. Reviewer #3: This paper compares hierarchical (and 2-stage) distance sampling to spatial capture-recapture using a set of simulations, and then applies both models to a breeding season survey of North Atlantic right whales. The authors find that SCR models outperform the DS models, particularly in the presence of unmodeled spatial variation in density. The paper is well written and the analyses well executed. This paper is very useful (the NIMBLE code is great) and will receive properly warranted attention. I have only a few thoughts. The movement model used to simulate individuals on the landscape is very basic and meets the assumptions for SCR while potentially violating some assumptions for DS. This could be emphasized a little more, though the latter point is definitely explored and discussed. Comparing two estimators that vary in assumption violations may seem a little unfair. Still, the right whale survey design dictates the need for this narrative (SCR vs. DS) and the authors do caution (L335) that only a single space use model was considered. Along those lines, the closure assumption would be a problem for the SCR model but was not explored in simulations. Not saying that it needs to be, but this is where short survey durations give DS models the advantage. Getting enough spatial recaptures is the challenge for SCR models so there is a tension between closure violation and survey duration. Either way, the authors do discuss the need for more complicated SCR models to accommodate right whales and I agree with this. Individual heterogeneity is another potential problem, particularly if females with calves are more visible (e.g., staying near surface), though technically this could affect the DS models as well. It was interesting that spatial variation as determined by a quadratic function induced bias in the constant-density SCR model. The DS model assumes that transects are distributed randomly with regards to spatial variation, so violating this assumption would be expected to result in poor performance. But one advantage of SCR models that is often cited is that the homogeneous point process works well despite unmodeled spatial variation. The differences in estimates for right whales suggests something slightly different may be at play. My final comment is that Table 1 would be more compelling as a figure, especially in the main text. Not saying this needs to be done! Many simulation papers present these results in tables, but some (e.g., Feinberg & Wainer 2011) would argue the messages are better presented visually. Some ggplot code would make quick work of these results. Just something to consider. Feinberg, R. A., and H. Wainer. "Extracting sunbeams from cucumbers." Journal of Computational and Graphical Statistics 20.4 (2011): 793-810. Dan Linden L90 Better to just state that SCR models can accommodate other survey methods, rather than referring to “advances”. L157 “some region u” is a bit confusing. I would state that “u” represents an area of continuous space, or a collection of discrete pixels at some resolution. L176 The values of B0/B1 to generate N=150 depend on the distribution of the simulated covariate values. Might be better to just state that the values were chosen to generate E(N)=150 and interested folks can find the exact values in the appendix code (along with the spatial covariate). Or make it clear what the covariate_n distribution was. L207 The theta subscript here looks like an “l” and not an “i”. L220-226 The alpha/beta values for the Beta distributions could be thrown into a small appendix table. They are a little distracting here and simply indicate the uncertainty induced for each g0 scenario. L239 Can you translate these UTMs to rough latitudes? The map makes the location pretty clear and the UTM coordinates are not otherwise useful to most readers. L307 Bias, RMSE, and coverage are all about accuracy – better to succinctly state that you compared the accuracy, especially for an intro discussion paragraph. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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