Peer Review History
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PONE-D-20-36698 Two centuries of forest succession, and 30 years of vegetation changes in permanent plots in an inland sand dune area, The Netherlands PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Prach, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please make revisions according to the suggestions of the reviewer,especially further clarify your process of data aquisition and methods used. Please ensure that your decision is justified on PLOS ONE’s publication criteria and not, for example, on novelty or perceived impact. Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 21 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: # General comments In this manuscript, entitled “Two centuries of forest succession, and 30 years of vegetation changes in permanent plots in an inland sand dune area, The Netherlands”, the authors aim to describe long-term successional changes in an inland sand dune landscape situated in the Netherlands. The main asset of the article is to benefit from a long-term monitoring of the same dune environment in order to reconstruct the succession dynamics. I therefore think that the information provided by these articles is of interest to the scientific community, especially because they concern very particular environments. Nevertheless, I think that the manuscript still has important limitations that need to be clarified before it can be made acceptable for publication. My main point of criticism would relate to the nature of the data, as well as the way it is interpreted and analyzed. To my opinion, these points deserve more context, justification and discussion. The data studied was indeed obtained using a synchronic approach (time since the beginning of the succession is estimated with the age of the trees), a diachronic approach (the same plots are studied at different periods) and finally a combination of the two (estimated age of the plot + time since the first sampling). The age of some sub-plot is furthermore interpolated according to the vegetation patch in which it is located (lines 145-146). In addition, only plot C is really studied over several years, where only the 1988 inventories for the plots A and B are considered. I understand very well the difficulty of carrying out long-term ecological monitoring while avoiding any anthropogenic disturbance, so I don't think that this is sufficient to justify a rejection. Nevertheless, this raises important questions about the validity of the results because it means that for plot C, we have repeated measurements, whereas this is not the case for plots A and B. Further, the age of many subplots depends on a spatial unit of vegetation types, implying a dependence between the subplot situated in a same vegetation patch. This mixture of different data types, with different levels of independence, seems to me to be statistically “risky”, but the authors never mention this problem. Overall, the age of each subplot seems to be considered as an independent data, even though it corresponds to a plot sampled twice or if the age depends on a specific spatial unit. More generally, the diachronic and synchronic approaches are each subject to criticism (a combined diachronic/synchronic approach would therefore be all the more so) but this is a point that is generally not discussed. I would therefore encourage the authors to better justify their approach, or even modify their analyses to better take into account the inconsistent independence of the data. (Please note that this is why I noted “No” for question “Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously?” of the PLOS ONE Review Report, as an intermediate answer was not available) More generally, I find that the structure of the article is sometimes relatively unclear. The introduction does not seem to highlight well the questions addressed by the authors while the discussion does not focus enough on the results (see specific comments for more details). In terms of data availability, I also disagree with the authors' statement that all data used in this study are available in the Supplementary Material. S1 presents data at the plot level, but not at the subplot level (which can vary greatly in age). It is therefore not possible to reproduce all analyses with the data currently available. For these reasons, I believe that acceptance of the manuscript is still conditional on major corrections. I therefore encourage authors to revise their manuscript, hoping that my comments will be useful to them. # Specific comments Lines 38-39: This sentence seems to have little connection with the rest of the paragraph. Lines 49-51: “Sand dune system” is repeated twice in the same sentence, maybe it could be rephrased Lines 53-55 and 68-79: These passages seem to talk about the same idea but are in a different paragraph. It would be better to group these ideas together in the same places Lines 60-66: The beginning of this section is more appropriate for the methodology, while the second section would be more relevant to the discussion. Lines 60 -78: It seems strange to me to focus the introduction on the studied area, as this limits the overall scope of this work by confining it to a specific context. Lines 92: I think a map and photos of the study area would be welcome (photos are however optional but it could help the reader to have a clearer picture of the study sites). Lines 121-122: This sentence is redundant Lines 124-127: Why is there two methods to classify the cover (ordinal scale 1-9 and percentage)? Lines 135-140: What is the typology used to define these geomorphological units and what are the thresholds? Is it a relatively subjective classification? Lines 149-152: This point should be discussed as, indeed, tree age is not always a reliable indicator of forest succession. Line 157: Define the acronym TCV Lines 161-162: Why a logarithmic transformation is used here? Line 171: Why a 20 x 20 m grid? The experimental design is based on 10 x 10m grid so it’s difficult to understand the change of scale here Line 172 : Would it be possible to separate the plot C1988 and C2018 (i.e., considering as covariables A1988, B1988, C1988 and C2018)? Lines 172-175: The responses curves are GAM if I refer to the legend for Figure 3. However, the characteristics of these models are not presented in the manuscript or in the supplementary material. This would be suitable because if I refer to the method, it is not a fitting that is only meant to be descriptive. Lines 184-186: Why calculate these areas again? Because the previous measurements were not reliable? Lines 197-199: All the correlations (r and p) with the DCA axes should be provided in the manuscript Figure 1: The figure should be divided in panels (A and B), it will facilitate the reading of the results. Figure 2: Would it be possible to color the points referring to the plot and the year of sampling? In this way it could be seen whether the fitting works despite the special characteristics of the data. Could the authors also give the details of the fitting? Figure 3: The figure should be divided in panels (A, B and C). Major and minor ticks would be necessary as well as a legend instead of the name of the trees next to the curves. Figure 4: Placing these figures vertically could give them more space in the article and make them more readable. It would also be a good idea to include a legend with the color codes. Overall, I'm not convinced by the colors, especially white to describe Deschampsia flexuosa; white is more a color for the absence of results. Overall, I would advise to review the color code to get something more harmonious (for example a light brown instead of white). Lines 293-308: This part should be at the end of the discussion, as it is a more general opening. I would advise to start the discussion with more concrete results. Lines 351-355: I think this part needs more detail to better explain the implication of the results Lines 362: Here, the authors could provide some example of the abiotic factors Line 368: I think a word is missing after “strong dominant” Line 380: Do the authors speak here of "late successional forests" broadly or for sand dune environments? ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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Two centuries of forest succession, and 30 years of vegetation changes in permanent plots in an inland sand dune area, The Netherlands PONE-D-20-36698R1 Dear Dr. Prach, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, RunGuo Zang Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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