Peer Review History
Original SubmissionOctober 19, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-32856 Artificial intelligence based writer identification generates new evidence for the unknown scribes of the Dead Sea Scrolls exemplified by the Great Isaiah Scroll (1QIsaa) PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Popović, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 12 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors extracted character features from the Hebrew characters of one of the Dead Sea Scrolls and performed clustering analyses of the characters to determine whether a single scribe or two scribes wrote the manuscript. Features such as Hinge reflect motion changes in the hand of the writer and thus are idiosyncratic to individual writers. There is a fairly clear transition between two sections of the manuscript, indicating two writers. The authors have performed thorough statistical tests. The process is a machine-based and statistical one, rather than just the opinion of a human analyst. Reviewer #2: Overall authors' approach to Palaeography is sound, and the application of imaging/image processing, statistics, and the analysis derived from them seems well founded. The data visualizations provided seem to me to represent an advance for Palaeography. This is certainly how we should be vizualizing character shape data across manuscripts going forward. The Hinge Feature plots (figure 4 and 5), the Fraglet plot (figure 6), and the combined plot (figure 7) are quite good and (should be) easily understood by the non-computationally minded palaeographer. I find the heatmaps (figure 10) to be interesting, and probably much more compelling when viewed interactively (i.e., not as part of a pdf, but with customized software for manipulating the composites and their links back to parts of the manuscript). Have the authors considered releasing a visualiztion tool along with the data, showing the interactive features of these composites? The ability to auto-classify both hand styles (those that are so common they're basically "fonts") and the number of anonymous scribes who contributed to the production of one manuscript is desirable. It is a "signal strength" problem - which signal is stronger, the variations from scribes, or variations attributed to other factors? As of now, paleographers still make these classifications with the trained eye based on what can only be considered a rudimentary qualitative/quantitative analysis. Rarely is an opinion regarding a classification presented in a scientific fashion; it's just "I assign this classification" based on "these manuscript images". So the approach of the paper is significant. Overall this work is significant and I believe this paper should be accepted for publication. However, I do have some points of critique that I believe the authors should consider. 1. The apparatus laid out in the paper has value even if the conclusion ("there were two scribes; the break point is HERE") is less definitive. Papers like this are valuable in order to gain acceptance for the methodology; there can still be some debate over granular and specific conclusions. 2. That being said, the use of the Great Isaiah Scroll as the primary data for the experiment is interesting, but also a bit wanting: Did one or two scribes create the scroll? The authors wade in to a context where there is no real consensus, as it is recognized that both positions are possible. However, the distinct break, the caesura, in the scroll between columns 27 and 28 is a strong indicator (I think) that the "two scribes" hypothesis is very likely. Two different manuscripts, one containing columns 1-27 and another for 28-54, seems likely. If each section were produced at different periods of time, then it is very possible that 2 scribes were used. Furthermore, the experiment clearly shows that 2 scribes can be argued for and defended scientifically with the approach the authors outline. 3. The paper states very clearly that deviation in character shapes occurs even when one scribe is present. So it can still be argued that the deviations that lead to the authors' conclusion come from something other than the two-author hypothesis. What about the same author, separated in time, after an injury? Possibly far fetched, but an argument that can be made nevertheless. It would be instructive for the authors to run the same process on a text of similar length but known to be produced by one scribe. Comparing the results of the two would then perhaps be a better evaluation of their process. 4. In the same vein [developing "control" data/context for the methodology], it would be interesting to introduce noise into the processing pipeline to see how robust or fragile the critical conclusions really are. In Lines 171-175 the authors mention some corrections/transformations (by-hand corrections like the application of affine transformations to overcome distortion because of the photography of non-flat and/or shape-distorted surfaces). What is the influence of such by-hand attempts at improving the input data? By introducing a series of automated/known corrections, one can measure through the entire system what the sensitivities would be in the output conclusions. Showing that the final Fermi-Dirac conclusions and the heatmaps are invariant/insensitive to such changes would lead to further confidence in the findings. 5. And this is why the methodology is so very critical for acceptance. It enables such "stress testing" and teasing out of the places in the chain where there is noise. Once an automated computational chain is set up, one can run experiments to test particular conclusions and the robustness of them in the face of variations and noise. The robustness (or lack thereof) would help to reveal arguments about the fragile nature of the results w.r.t. the input. 6. One "knit-picky" point: the authors characterize their approach in the title and abstract as being based on "artificial intelligence" techniques, but the set of tools used (PCA, image processing, structural metrics of the letter forms, heat maps) are not necessarily part of an overall AI-inspired approach. People might feel a little misled because they might be looking for Convolutional Neural Networks or something that looks more like "deep learning." ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). 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Artificial intelligence based writer identification generates new evidence for the unknown scribes of the Dead Sea Scrolls exemplified by the Great Isaiah Scroll (1QIsaa) PONE-D-20-32856R1 Dear Dr. Popović, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. 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Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #2: I am eager to see this paper appear in PLOS ONE. I still don't like the title as it is (leading with "AI-based writer identification" diminishes your contribution, it seems to me, which is to use those tools in a clever and robust way to make your arguments). I'm not going to suggest what the title should be, but you should consider revising it. And here is a little story: when I was part of a project at the Marciana Library in Venice to digitize the Venetus A, we used a robotic arm with a non-contact (structured light) probe to build 3D models of every page that we also photographed. We thought that was cool, and it enabled some new work with the data. The "Wired Magazine" article reporting on it was titled: "Robot Scans Ancient Manuscript in 3-D". https://www.wired.com/2007/06/robot-scans-ancient-manuscript-in-3-d/ The picture was of one of my students. HE was scanning the manuscript, USING a robot arm (not even a "robot", really). In the same way YOU the authors have put together this method; AI is a tool. Bravo for using it and other methods. Don't let the headlines be that the AI robots figured it out instead of you. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #2: Yes: W. Brent Seales |
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