Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionJanuary 6, 2021 |
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PONE-D-21-00527 Plasma pentosidine levels are associated with prevalent fractures in patients with chronic liver disease PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Saeki, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. While both reviewers found your study potentially interesting, there are also important issues that need to be considered/disclosed prior to publication (heterogeneity of the cohort, a somewhat superficial characterization of the non-cirrhotic participants etc.). Because of that, the bar for the revision will be relatively high. Among others, the etiology of liver fibrosis might influence the rate of fractures and its role should be carefuly analysed. It should be also considered for the multivariate model. Please submit your revised manuscript by Mar 08 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Please ensure that you describe the sources and catalog numbers of all ELISA assays, antibodies, etc. in the methods section of your manuscript. For antibodies, please also include the dilutions used in your experiments. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: In their study the authors determined the relationship between plasma levels of pentosidine, which represents a surrogate marker for advanced glycation end products (AGEs), and prevalent fractures in 324 patients with chronic liver disease. They obtained information on prevalent fractures through medical interviews, records, and/or radiography. After classifying the patients into three groups according to their pentosidine serum levels, they found out that the high pentosidine-group had the highest prevalence of liver cirrhosis and prevalent fractures, whereas the low pentosidine group showed the lowest prevalence of fractures and liver cirrhosis. They were able to show that pentosidine serum levels significantly correlate with liver functional reserve factors and a hepatic fibrosis marker, but not with age. The authors concluded their study by stating that pentosidine is a significant independent factor related to prevalent fractures in patients with CLD and should be closely followed in individuals with advanced liver disease. Despite these novel results, the manuscript has a couple of weaknesses that greatly diminish the value of the presented data. Major weaknesses: 1. As explained by the authors themselves, pentosidine production is increased in several other diseases, such as chronic kidney disease or diabetes. However, patients displaying these diagnoses were not excluded or taken into account in the statistical analyses, and thus results might be biased. These confounders need to be included into a multivariable analysis. Alternatively, subgroup-analyses can be performed. 2. The authors excluded individuals with pathological processes and prolonged glucocorticoid administration. Similar to 1) a further improvement might be achieved by including other confounders or risk factor for osteoporosis, such as pathological alcohol consumption or excessive smoking into the statistical analyses. How are the different liver disease etiologies taken into account (alcoholic liver cirrhosis etc.)? 3. Please elaborate more on the clinical consequences. What is the AUROC of pentosidine for the prediction of fractures in CLD patients? Are there any data showing whether high pentosidine serum levels associated with increased mortality in these patients? Minor comments: - Table 1: I would prefer listing “diabetes mellitus” above “liver cirrhosis”, under “BMI”. This would place “liver cirrhosis” and “etiology” below each other as they belong together. - Table 2: Please notice different style of “P-value” and “p value” (page 12, line 182). - Improvement suggestion instead of “as medians (interquartile ranges) and numbers (percentages)” better “as medians (interquartile ranges) and relative frequencies (%)” (page 8, line 126; page 10, line 151). Reviewer #2: Dear Dr. Saeki, dear Co-authors, I have read your submission with great interest. Unfortunately I find the study to have multiple limitations, that greatly diminish its value: 1. The cohort investigated lacks sufficient characterisation with regard to “CLDs”. This produces a high amount of confounders. What diseases were considered chronic, especially in patients without cirrhosis? For example, was any given amount of alcohol consumption regarded as a chronic liver disease or were only diseases included, that had already provided liver injury in substantial amounts? How was such liver injury measured (did the authors use any scoring systems, diagnostic tools like transient elastography or histology)? The way the information is provided, I can see too many confounders disturbing the investigated results. A smaller, but sufficiently characterised cohort might have achieved less confounding bias. 2. Comprehensibly, the authors did not exclude patients with chronically impaired renal function, as it represents a common (co)morbidity in liver disease. This has been vocally addressed, but still confounds pentosidine plasma levels independent of CLD. 3. Exclusion criteria mention patients previously treated with GC for 3 months, but do not provide information on or exclude patients with other reasons for osteoporosis, such as postmenopausal women with or without hormone supplementation or patients with other reasons for a substantial vitamin d deficiency. Additionally, did the authors include history of fractures before the primary diagnosis of a liver disease? How did the authors manage patients with CLD and fractures after the age of 40 years that were induced through traumatic injury? 4. Cirrhosis is not sufficiently defined, as scoring systems and diagnostic information are lacking (Child-Pugh, MELD, …). A dichotomous comparison between cirrhotic and non-cirrhotic patients would have been of great interest, as the authors central question for pentosidine measurement involves the differences between sub cohorts of CLD. 5. A comparison of the different CLD aetiologies would have been interesting. Here, especially the univariate analysis of significant factors associated with prevalent fractures lacks inclusion of CLD aetiologies. A confounding bias is likely. 6. The characterisation of pentosidine groups has raised important questions, that have not been sufficiently attended. For example, did plasma pentosidine levels correlate with Child-Pugh or MELD in patients with liver cirrhosis? This information would be especially helpful, as laboratory parameters in the different pentosidine groups differed significantly. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email PLOS at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step. |
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PONE-D-21-00527R1 Plasma pentosidine levels are associated with prevalent fractures in patients with chronic liver disease PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Saeki, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. As you can see, both reviewers appreciated the modifications you made and only minor changes are required at this stage. Please submit your revised manuscript by Apr 30 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. Guidelines for resubmitting your figure files are available below the reviewer comments at the end of this letter. If applicable, we recommend that you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io to enhance the reproducibility of your results. Protocols.io assigns your protocol its own identifier (DOI) so that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Pavel Strnad Academic Editor PLOS ONE Journal Requirements: Please review your reference list to ensure that it is complete and correct. If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: In their study the authors determined the relationship between plasma levels of pentosidine and prevalent fractures in 324 patients with chronic liver disease. As mentioned before, the presented data are of relevance, but nevertheless showed a couple of weaknesses in their first manuscript draft. In the revised version of their work, the authors responded to multiple comments. They included multivariable analyses taking possible confounding factors, such as the presence of CKD and diabetes mellitus into account and newly performed multiple regression analyses to identify significant and independent factors affecting plasma pentosidine levels. Another major weakness of the study was represented by the great heterogeneity within the cohort regarding different liver disease etiologies. This issue still remains, but the authors now succeeded in improving the characterization of the study cohort and showed that liver disease etiology is not significantly associated with plasma pentosidine levels. However, the newly supplemented ROC curve analyses unfortunately suggested that plasma pentosidine levels may not be very useful in predicting fractures. The relationship between serum levels of pentosidine and prognosis in patients with liver disease should be investigated in the future. Overall, the authors have now managed to pay more attention to confounding factors and to better characterise the cohort. Reviewer #2: Dear Authors, thank you for providing modifications in the revised protocol. Almost all major and minor concerns have been addressed. An additional minor revision would raise the overall value: 1. The authors have performed AUROC analysis for the optimal pentosidine cut-off value for predicting prevalent fractures (R2). Please feel encouraged to include and disclose this data in the final submission (at the moment only available for review) in an effort to increase transparency. Additionally, an open discussion on the implications issued by the underlying data is desirable. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email PLOS at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step. |
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Plasma pentosidine levels are associated with prevalent fractures in patients with chronic liver disease PONE-D-21-00527R2 Dear Dr. Saeki, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Pavel Strnad Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Thanks for your nice contribution! Reviewers' comments: |
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PONE-D-21-00527R2 Plasma pentosidine levels are associated with prevalent fractures in patients with chronic liver disease Dear Dr. Saeki: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Pavel Strnad Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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