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PONE-D-20-23403 Bootstrap simulations for evaluating the model estimation of the extent of cross-pollination in maize at the field-scale level PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Lin, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ============================== ============================== Please submit your revised manuscript by Nov 05 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: I Don't Know Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This paper studies the dispersal of maize pollen from a pollen source as a function of distance. Three fields are used for study. Seven nonlinear regression models are fitted. A bootstrap analysis is performed to provide confidence limits. Furthermore, cross validation is conducted. The statistical methodology needs to be more accurately described. Some detailed comments follow. (1) The study obviously involves a large number of plots per field. But it remains unclear what the dimension of the plots are and how they are distributed across the field. A map showing the field layout would be very useful. (2) It is not clear from M&M whether the regression models were fitted per field or across fields. (3) Missing plots were estimated using some clustering method, but it is unclear just why missing values had to be replaced (lines 294-297). Only a very small number or plots was missing, and then nonlinear models look quite simple, so I do no see any need to replace missing values. (4) I read lines 260-263 several times, but could not understand the meaning. Can this be reworded? How can the gene flow be reduced by fitting a model? I do not understand. (5) For the bootstrapping, it is unclear if this was done by field or for all data across lumped together across the three fields. (6) How was the nonlinear regression done, what procedure in SAS was used? Was regression done by field or across fields? In the latter case, how was heterogeneity between fields taken into account? (7) How was the cross validation done? Which SAS procedure? How was the data split into calibration and validation sets? It would be most meaning full, e.g., to use two fields for calibration and one for validation. (8) Strictly speaking the number of true replications is given by the number of fields, whereas the many plots per field constitute pseudo-replications. This limitation of thee study deserves to be mentioned and critically discussed. (9) I can't read the figures, there is too much blemish. Reviewer #2: The authors of this manuscripts present bootstrap simulations for evaluating the model estimation of the extent of cross-pollination in maize at the field-scale level. It is an interesting manuscript that presents an important case study of the co-existence between genetically modified and non-genetically modified systems in an open environment. One struggle i faced while going through the manuscript was the need of more effort in clarity in writing and correcting grammatical mistakes, and succinctly providing enough details of their findings in their manuscript, that is, there were several incidences, where the information were repetitive with no additional information, also excessive use of abbreviation which makes it hard to remember all their full forms and hindering in the flow of the read. Overall, manuscript has an interesting case study and meets this journal standards for publication. I have listed my specific comments with line numbers below: L 51: Please provide the citation L 54: 'us' should be 'is'? L 56-57: Its a confusing sentence. Should it be interest or concern? L 77: The word 'pollution' is not here in this sentence. May be use contamination instead? L 133: "Polluted" is not the correct use here L 147-149: Can cross-incompatibility trait assist in resolving this issue? For example check this paper -- Evans, M., Kermicle, J. Teosinte crossing barrier1, a locus governing hybridization of teosinte with maize. Theor Appl Genet 103, 259–265 (2001). https://doi.org/10.1007/s001220100549 L 193-194: the definition about the xenia effect does not make sense. Please correct. L 200: Please provide experimental design of the experiments L 217: Out of curiosity, Were there any pollinating insects such as bees that could potentially cross pollinate between two varieties of corn? L 220-221: Why only this duration of time was chosen? L 233-234: How many corn ears per plant were counted? L 241-243: Corn plants at the beginning and at the end of each row have a higher probability of containing CP kernels as they are more exposed than the plants in the middle of the row. I hope this scenario was considered while sampling, since it can biased the analysis and the results. similarly, its always advised to harvest top ear of the corn plant for the same reason. L 260: Please correct the spelling of trial L 317: In statistical analysis, what were the fixed/random effects in the model? L 318-319: Will the SAS code be published or deposited in any publicly accessible repositories? ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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PONE-D-20-23403R1 Bootstrap simulations for evaluating the model estimation of the extent of cross-pollination in maize at the field-scale level PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Lin, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 31 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: L239: CP% is based on counts and as such is bound to display heterogeneity of variance. Residuals need to be carefully checked if simple nonlinear least squares is used and graphical evidence of a good fit based on residual plots should be provided. Alternatively, if residuals indicate problems, the nonlinear models can be fit using a generalized nonlinear regression package allowing a Poisson or Binomial error distribution to be assumed. L296: I do not think the model requires observed data on P0: P0 is just another parameter that actually needs to be estimated. Thus, I also do not see a need to impute missing data at the first row of the pollen field. L337: What are a and b here? Parameters of the nonlinear models, or are you fitting a regression of observed versus fitted data here and a and b are intercept and slope, respectively? I had suggested that field is the experimental unit, so the whole study only has three true replications. the authors acknowledge this in their response, but their main text does not comment on this limitation. I think it would be important to do so. Reviewer #2: Authors have addressed all my questions very well. However, the figures in the revised version still had a poor resolution such as axis labels and especially equations on figure 6, please fix them. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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PONE-D-20-23403R2 Bootstrap simulations for evaluating the model estimation of the extent of cross-pollination in maize at the field-scale level PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Lin, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 04 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors insist that imputation of P0 is nececcary prior to fitting some of their models. I can only re-iterate that I think P0 is a parameter that should be estimated simultaneously with the others in order to obtain a valid inference. The authors could compare the estimates of P0 resulting from this with their imputed value of P0. Also note that P0 in the these models has about the same status as b in some of their simpler models. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. 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PONE-D-20-23403R3 Bootstrap simulations for evaluating the model estimation of the extent of cross-pollination in maize at the field-scale level PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Lin, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 14 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. Guidelines for resubmitting your figure files are available below the reviewer comments at the end of this letter. If applicable, we recommend that you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io to enhance the reproducibility of your results. Protocols.io assigns your protocol its own identifier (DOI) so that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Mehdi Rahimi, Ph.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors assert that the deviance is better when P0 is imputed than when it is estimated. This suggests that something is wrong. The authors are using maximum likelihood estimation, so the value for P0 they find by that method should maximize the likelihood, and hence minimize the deviance. This can't possibly be beat by imputing P0 in any way. All of this is assuming, of course, that both times they are using the exact same data and the exact same likelihood function, which is necessary if you want to use deviance or AIC to compare models. The authors state that they fitted the models as generalized linear models (GLM) but the models as stated in equations (2) to (8) are not generalized linear models. Several of them can be turned into a GLM upon taking the logarithm, and I am assuming this is what the authors have done. This would need to be explained succinctly. The parameter P0 of the model CP4 will be an intercept, but on the log-scale. Note that models CP6 and CP7 are not GLMs so it is not clear what was done to fit these. Since the authors are using SAS, they could use the NLMIXED procedure to fit these model (and other models for comparison to make sure they get the likelihood right). At any rate, it would be good to tell readers how exactly the different models were fitted in SAS. One further issue: The authors assert that they assessed "predictive ability" by deviance and AIC. These are not measures of predictive ability. In cross valdation, predictive ability can be computed directly by comparing predicted and observed data in the validation set, e.g. via the correlation. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email PLOS at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step. |
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PONE-D-20-23403R4 Bootstrap simulations for evaluating the model estimation of the extent of cross-pollination in maize at the field-scale level PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Lin, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Mar 18 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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I do not think the authors have properly fitted model CP7 because there is no way to turn this into a GLM, yet the authors used the GENMOD procedure to fit it, and this is a procedure to fit GLMs. The authors asser that " In addition, model CP7 was taken the logarithm after subtracting 0.003." Have they substracted 0.003 from the observed response and then fitted a GLM? In that case, they have not fitted the model properly by ML. And the "data", i.e. the response, is not the same, so they cannot compare the deviances and AIC values with the other models. Again, I can just re-iterate my suggestion to fit the model properly using NLMIXED. If the authors have not actually fitted models CP5 and CP6, but used fits from literature, how did they obtain deciance and AIC? ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. 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(Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I think the authors need to reconsider the ML theory underling GLMs. The way they responded to my comments indicates that they have not understood my points. I am a bit at a loss what else I can do to make them understand that their analysis is flawed regarding model CP7, and also regarding the estimation of P0 in some of the other models. I'll give it one last try. I'm really trying to help the authors and make sure they do not publish a flawed analysis. (1) If you are using ML estimation properly, the deviance can only improve when including P0 in the estimation of the model, as compared to imputing P0 in any way. If you find the opposite, which seems to be the case, this is a sure sign that something is wrong in your analysis. Subsequently, I am particularly refering to these two statements in the authors' response: "Response: After subtracting 0.003 from the observed response, the CP7 can be transformed into GLM. Because the models don’t include the random effect, using NLMMIXED is not necessary." "Response: With a proper likelihood function, the deviance and AIC can be calculated from any model with observations. The CP5 and CP6 was treated as a fitted model in our study." (2) Just because you can compute a likelihood doesn't mean you can use it to compare model fits. You can only use the likelihood to compare model fits if the data used to fit the different models is exactly the same. So you can't substract 0.0003 from the response for one model but use the raw data "as is" for the others and then use the AIC or deviance to compare model fits. This is a fundamental fact in likelihood theory, and I would strongly urge the authors to consult their favourite mathematical statistics textbook on this point. (3) If you substract an arbitrary value from a count, it's no longer a count and so it can't reasonably be assumed to follow a Poisson distribution after this operation. I can only re-iterate that the best to fit model CP7 is to use NMLIXED, leaving all model terms on the right-hand side. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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