Peer Review History
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PONE-D-20-26924 Artificial intelligence for the classification of knee fractures in adults according to the 2018 AO/OTA classification system PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Gordon, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The reviewers are overall positive but they have also identified multiple major and minor issues that need to be addressed before the manuscript can be considered for publication. Especially, carefully update literature following comments of R1, provide detailed responses regarding the data description and experimental setup (R1, R2, R3), and provide details of the method following the comments of R3. Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 05 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: N/A Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This is an interesting article but requires some significant clarifications. The knee is a joint, thus it dislocates but does not fracture. Please use a different word or indicate the bones involved. Please clarify your sample sizes; I had great trouble sorting this out. Please provide the number of independent patients -with the number of radiographs per patient. Did each patient have all the views -did every plateau fracture have an evaluation with a paired AP and Lateral i am not fully clear on machine learning technology - were normal x-rays included if the patient had a distal femur fracture? I find the fact that you quote that knee replacements only last a decade in 80% of the population fairly unrealistic - please review the literature to be sure your quoted reference reflects the global feeling. In the United States very few fractures of the tibial plateau or distal femur would be treated operatively without a CT scan - and in Europe many patella cases appear to be treated without plain films so please review the 2nd pargaraph of your introduction. I don't think that there is a lot of misdiagnosis in interpreting radiographs of fractures - there might be a misjudgement of the severity of the fracture pattern Please explain on line 63 how the random images were selected. Line 66 - When you say projections do you means the actual images? Line 70 - Are you stating that patients with the same fracture were seen at different time points - were all your images not initial injury films - there should have been no repeat patients for the same fracture; please clarify this. Line 72 - who made this decision Line 85 - what is ESM Line 89 - same comment as line 70 Line 93 -I just want to confirm that two surgeons manually classified 600 fractures - this case number continues to confuse me based on the samples in your tables Line 10 1- when you say label d do you mean graded - I am not objecting to the word I just want to be certain I understand? Line 152 etc - please put the sample size in the text for each overall group of fractures My confusion over your actual samples continues onto your tables -- please be clear as to the actual number of fractures seen - what the surgeons who manually coded cases found and what the machine identified Did you use the modifiers as well? I think the concept of machine learning is reasonable - I think your justification for it needs to modified. Perhaps - fracture identification in clinics without orthopedic trained personnel available - replacement of the need for virtual reading of films in the middle of the night by on-call personnel etc Reviewer #2: Dear author This is an interesting article in an area that will only become more relevant. It is well structures and written I do think that some of the paper needs some simplification to make it more readable to understand the true use of this technology. I have a couple of other comments 1. How were the 600 tests radiographs actually chosen. I am concerned there may have been some bias in the choice. Why was 600 chosen 2. Were the surgeons involved in reviewing the radiographs part of the design team. 3. I would like to see clearer documentation of how bias was addressed 4. I would like more information on how many fractures out of this selection were not identified compared to the radiologists report. This has a large bearing on the use of this. Reviewer #3: This paper describes and evaluates a method for knee fracture classification from plain radiographs using a deep neural network. The authors collected around 6000 radiographs from a single hospital and manually classified knee fractures according to the 2018 AO/OTA classification system, including a few custom categories. The authors then trained a simple neural network classifier using a majority of the data and tested its perform on 600 images that were annotated by two experienced observers. This is overall an interesting study, and the authors especially put a lot of effort into data collection and annotation. The study is focused on the validation of an automatic classification method. A lot of details of this method are missing, which would be logical for a validation study of a method described in detail in another (already published) paper, but this seems not to be the case. For this reason, details of the neural network classifier and its training process should in my opinion be included in the manuscript, preferably in the main text rather than a supplement. For example, the output of the network is not clear. Does the network generate softmax predictions for X classes? In the supplementary material, the network is described with four filters in the last layer, but here it is not clear how these values are translated into AO/OTA categories. It is also unclear what it means that all images were processed individually by the core section of the network – does this refer to different images from the same patient? The supplement also mentions another dataset used for training, which needs to be mentioned in the main text. The training process should also be described in more detail, at least summarizing how radiological reports were fed to the network in teacher student sessions, and how the other more complex regularization techniques were used such as the autoencoder. The active learning part is also described only very briefly. For data selection, a random subset of the available images was selected based on the likelihood that the image contained a fracture. How was this likelihood determined and how exactly was it used to select images? How was the data split into test, training and validation sets – randomly? The test data was annotated by two orthopedic surgeons. Please give their initials if they are co-authors. I assume that Cohen’s kappa was computed with the readings before the consensus session, it might be worth stating this explicitly. The values in the result section would be more informative with corresponding confidence intervals. Minor comments: - Page 3, Line 41: This sentence is not well written and hard to read: “deep learning; a branch of machine learning, utilizing neural networks; a form of artificial intelligence” - Page 7, Line 123: “>0.7” should be “<0.7” - Page 9, Line 175: “seemed to correspond somewhat” is not very precise language - Page 9, Line 184: “falter” should probably be “failed” - The resolution of Figure 3 is very low. Reviewer #4: This is an interesting paper looking at machine learning and its ability to recognize knee fractures. This study is important as it is the start of what will probably become the accepted way of assessing and classifying fractures. It will also allow for the appropriate classification of fractures in an unbiased format allowing classifications to be correlated with results and ultimately to treatment decisions and outcomes. The methodology and statistical evaluation are acceptable. The results are definitely encouraging showing reasonable;le correlation with the AO/OTA classification based only on plain radiographs. The discussion was honest and dealt with the shortcoming and strengths of the research. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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PONE-D-20-26924R1 Artificial intelligence for the classification of fractures around the knee in adults according to the 2018 AO/OTA classification PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Gordon, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Both reviewers appreciate the improvements made during the revision. Nevertheless, Reviewer 3 identified several major concerns that I agree with. The manuscript is therefore, not yet ready for publication. Please carefully look at all comments, especially those provided by Reviewer 3 and make sure that the description of the method allows its reimplementation. Please submit your revised manuscript by Mar 29 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #3: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thank you for your thorough responses. I have a few follow-up queries On line 65 perhaps clarify that you did not look at all plain radiographs but rather those around the knee joint. Consider re-writing the next paragraph so it is clear who excluded images for quality or open physes etc. Line 102 - there are three sets of initials but only 2 orthopedic surgeons in your text I am sorry if I missed this but did you report the agreement between your human raters -- how far down into the codes did they go - how many cases needed reconciliation You have very few distal femur training cases - is this number adequate? Were all the A cases evaluated for being A so in the patella you actually have 12 A's , 10 A1 etc Thank you for these clarifications on your interesting work Reviewer #3: The revision has improved this paper in several aspects. However, the method (neural network) is still not sufficiently described in my opinion. The argument that the code will be published on acceptance does not appeal to me - the reader should not need to dig through your code to understand your method. I would strongly recommend moving most of the neural network description from the supplement into the main body of the manuscript, and extending this description. The reader should be able to reimplement the method based on the description in the paper, but there are currently too many details missing. The “Neural network setup” section needs to contain more details about the whole setup, most importantly how the individual regularization techniques were used together (the reference for using auto-encoders for regularization [21] also refers to a paper about Stochastic Weight Averaging, this seems to be a mistake). The outputs of the network appear to be sigmoid units, but the table in the supplement lists only 4 output units - it is still not clear to me how these are translated into the different categories. Or is there another layer with the final output units? With sigmoid outputs, two classifications that exclude each other could both have the same probability (e.g. 1.0) - what would be the final classification in such a case? “The test set consisted of 600 cases, which were classified by two senior orthopedic surgeons, MG, OS and EA, working independently.” - this seems to list the initials of three observers? The data availability statement has been considerably improved, now the test set will be released. The authors could consider also uploading their evaluation pipeline and their results to a platform like grand-challenge.org where other researchers can then later upload their own predictions for comparison. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. 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