Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionDecember 14, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-39244 Veteran trees have divergent effects on beetle diversity and wood decomposition PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Wetherbee, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The reviewers raise legitimate points and I agree with these. Please pay close attention to their concerns and modify the manuscript accordingly. In addition to comments identified by reviewers, I found the description of the statistical analyses to be insufficient and lacking clarity. Generally, a manuscript requiring major revision will undergo another round of review after the modified version is resubmitted. Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 26 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This article is a useful contribution to understanding the role of decomposing wood in the biodiversity profile of forests and provides a strong defense of preserving and enhancing dead wood resources in those habitats. The methods are straightforward and clearly stated, but the presentation of discussion and comparisons with results of other studies in temperate forest systems could be improved. The authors fail to mention a significant body of work by Ferro et al. that was conducted in North America. Those studies are published as open access in the journal Insecta Mundi and should be consulted and considered in the discussion where results of previous work are compared. Further, the identification of 667 species must represent a substantial percentage of the total beetle diversity known from Norway, so a more general comparison of how the results relate to the overall diversity of beetles in the region would improve the discussion. Total beetle diversity in Norway is reasonably well documented and the data should be accessible. I answered “no” to the data availability question because the availability of the taxon dataset was not specifically addressed. A simple statement in the results would address this. The methods used to conduct the taxonomic work are not clearly explained, so the reliability of the species list cannot be assessed. If the taxonomic work was conducted based on authoritative knowledge of the individual(s) who did the work, that should be stated. Otherwise references to keys, reference collections, and/or other identification tools should be described. I note that a single “expert” is credited with the identifications and presumably sorting of the 600+ beetle species and nearly 10,000 individuals. Why this person is not included as a co-author is beyond me, and perhaps this should be considered. Does the taxonomic work only count for a mention in the acknowledgements even though the entire paper rests on this dataset? Reviewer #2: [I received no “supplemental data” and “supplemental data” are not referred to in the MS, therefore I assume a species list doesn't exist. If it does, then many remarks below can be ignored.] The MS represents two studies. First a comparison of saproxylic beetle species collected in the canopy of veteran vs. young oaks. Second a comparison of twig bundles (1. colonization by beetles and 2. changes in densities) when influenced by the presence of a veteran or young oak. The canopy study, alone, is of great interest and should be published, but MUST be rewritten and added to. As presented, all the MS provides are two vague proclamations: 1) “the number of beetle species involved in decomposition of wood was higher around the veteran oaks than the young oaks”; and 2) “beetle communities around the veteran trees had a greater diversity of traits relevant for decomposition of wood than those around young trees”. Which of the 170 species drove those differences? Were there any species that indicated or perhaps required veteran trees, or young trees? If we are interested in veteran trees for conservation purposes, then it would be good to know something about which species they help conserve. A table, listing the 170 species, and how many were collected at each tree type, would provide future researchers with an enormous amount of useable data and greatly enhance the quality of the research. (Presumably, you already have created such a table for your analysis.) For example, someone looking into the habits of Species X or Genus Y could now use your observations. [Analyzing those 170 species would enhance the MS, or represent another paper entirely.] The “Wood Decomposer” trait in Table 1 that came from “Diverse literature” represents witchcraft at this point. There is no way for anyone to know or understand how or why you designated a species the way you did. In the recommended table above, you should add a citation and tell which decomposer type you assigned to each species. The twig study should be removed from this MS. It should be rewritten as a Note that stands as an example of negative results showing that the number of twigs was inadequate. Based on this study and other studies, an estimate of the required number of twigs to get meaningful results could be given. The differences in density could also be mentioned as interesting and worthy of further study, but beyond that, NO conclusions can be drawn. Small sample size, no controls, and no measure of fungal diversity in the area or in the twigs was taken. **** Despite all my complaints, it’s a good study and please do publish it. Toss out the twigs and provide a species list and your paper will be read and cited long into the future. ;) Below are some notes I jotted down as I read the MS. Why would beetles colonizing fresh twigs be influenced by a veteran tree? Presumably fresh broken twigs are available throughout the forest, while veteran trees contain rare types of really rotten dead wood (“veteris” wood), see Ulyshen 2018. Different beetles go to different wood decay stages and sizes. There is very little literature on beetles in fine wood debris, twigs, etc. Ferro and Vogel have published some papers on it. See below. The time of year when small twigs are cut and placed to attract saproxylic beetles is important. See Ferro and Gimmel 2014. At the very least, specific dates of cutting and placement should be included. Concerning the twig bundles, in relation to the dry weight and density measure, there were no controls in the experiment. Control 1: analysis of the twigs immediately after they are cut to establish a baseline (weight means nothing, you didn’t dry it); Control 2: bundles of twigs where beetles are excluded (perhaps with netting); Control 3: where fungi were excluded (perhaps the twigs were soaked in an antifungal agent prior to placement); Control 4: fungi and beetles excluded. You could even include a Control 5 where “natural weathering” is reduced by placing twigs in an environment (just on a shelf in the lab) where temp, humidity, etc. are held constant. It’s not your fault, I’ve seen virtually no controls used in saproxylic research. If the twigs were fresh cut, the species that arrive at the twigs prefer fresh material. If those species only require one year to develop, those will be gone before rearing. Species that arrive the second summer are probably attracted to dead, drier wood, and are probably less numerous. What species did you get? Without a list, no one can tell if this is the case. Where is the species list? You went to all that trouble to collect all those specimens, someone spent how many hours IDing them, and all that information is lost? All you got out of that effort were a couple means, P values, and a graph? Were the specimens destroyed or retained? If retained, where? How would a future researcher check your work or recalculate your findings? How could anyone compare or combine these findings to future studies? “We also tested if abiotic conditions known to influence decay rates were different between the two tree types.” “We also found that abiotic conditions related to sun exposure and moisture content…” By analyzing the species collected? If you took abiotic measurements, temperature, humidity, etc., you need to say in the MM how and when you did that, and how you analyzed it, provide some citations to show how those conditions do influence decay rates, and give results. Table 1: How do the traits of adult beetles have anything to do with the wood they inhabit as larvae (arguably the most important stage)? “Diverse literature” is meaningless and can’t be reproduced or reanalyzed. Vogel, S. et al. 2020. Diversity and conservation of saproxylic beetles in 42 European tree species: an experimental approach using early successional stages of branches. Insect Conservation and Diversity. doi: 10.1111/icad.12442 Ulyshen, M. D. 2018. Saproxylic Insects. Springer Nature. Zoological Monographs I: 1–904. Ferro, M. L., M. L. Gimmel, K. E. Harms, and C. E. Carlton. 2009. The beetle community of small oak twigs in Louisiana, with a literature review of Coleoptera from fine woody debris. The Coleopterists Bulletin 63: 239–263. Ferro, M. L., and M. L. Gimmel. 2014. Season of fine woody debris death affects colonization of saproxylic Coleoptera. The Coleopterists Bulletin 68(4): 681–685. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. 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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors have done a good job of addressing reviewer concerns and correcting some errors that were not obvious to reviewers in the original version. They still need to carefully proof the manuscript prior to final submission. The family name "Curculionidae" should not be in italics unless this is a quirk of journal requirements. There may be other proofing errors. I have no major criticisms of the revision. Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No |
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