Dear Dr Kuivaniemi,
Thank you for your valuable review for our manuscript. Your review really helped us
to improve it. As per request of one of the reviewers, the manuscript has been sent
for language proofreading. The revised version is attached and changes to the original
version are highlighted in yellow. Kindly find our responses to the editor's and reviewers'
comments below.
Editor
•Please include additional information regarding the survey or questionnaire used
in the study and ensure that you have provided sufficient details that others could
replicate the analyses. For instance, if you developed a questionnaire as part of
this study and it is not under a copyright more restrictive than CC-BY, please include
a copy, in both the original language and English, as Supporting Information.
o A copy of the survey in English is attached as a part of supplementary files. The
survey was communicated in English only.
•Please provide additional details regarding participant consent. In the ethics statement
in the Methods and online submission information, please ensure that you have specified
what type you obtained (for instance, written or verbal, and if verbal, how it was
documented and witnessed). If your study included minors, state whether you obtained
consent from parents or guardians. If the need for consent was waived by the ethics
committee, please include this information.
o Since the survey was distributed through the internet, informed consent process
was described as follows " Informed consent was obtained using the following statement,
which was shown to potential participants before starting to answer the questionnaire:
“Completing this questionnaire and submitting it will be considered as your informed
consent to participate in this study. You have the right to stop completing the questionnaire
at any stage and to withdraw from participation.” Those who responded to the questionnaire
to completion were considered as having given their informed consents."
Additional Editor Comments (if provided):
•Please clarify how the participants were selected? Does Egypt have only 291 physicians
in total? Do the participants represent physicians serving both rural and urban communities?
o As mentioned in the methods section (Study design, Participants, Sampling and Setting
& Study tool and data collection), the study participants were selected using the
convenient sampling technique. This technique was used as it is easy to reach the
required sample size within the available time and resources. The investigators made
communications with focal point physicians who work in the three selected governorates
(Alexandria, Cairo and Assiut). These three governorates geographically represent
three geographic regions in Egypt; (north, centre and south regions). The investigators
sent invitation links by email to the focal points. Similarly, these, by their turn
invited more physicians from their governorates. Moreover, Facebook and other social
media platforms were also used to recruit participants, provided that they work in
the three selected governorates. The selected sample of physician was determined according
to the calculated sample size using Epi-Info software. Our sample has no relation
with the total number of physicians in Egypt which exceeds 200,000 as per official
statistics. It is expected that the participant physicians serving urban communities
are more represented in our sample, as all our focal points in the three governorates
were serving urban communities.
•Some of the cells in the tables have a really small number of responses. Was the
statistical analysis different for samples <5 answers?
o In this case, the association between qualitative variables was tested by using
the Fisher's Exact Test instead of chi square test. A sentence was added to the revised
manuscript to clarify this point (page 8: Subjects and methods/ Statistical analysis
section/ line 5)
•In the discussion, unpublished results on medical students are mentioned and compared
to the current study. Please provide some more details e.g. sample size, which medical
schools, how many years of medical school, sex etc. to make it possible to assess
if the comparison is relevant.
o The required data has been added as follows " Interestingly, a similar proportion
(57.7%) of 315 senior Egyptian medical students studying in medical schools in the
same governorates (Cairo, Alexandria, and Assiut), who participated in a similar survey
indicated a similar reluctance to donate samples or encourage family members to do
so (data not published)".
•I suggest including Tindani et al. BMC Medical Ethics 2019 as a reference.
o The suggested article has been cited three times in the following paragraphs page
5 :"The absence of full ethical and regulatory frameworks that would govern genomic
studies and biobanking activities represents one of the most pressing research-related
ethical challenges in a large number of African countries, including Egypt "
o Page 19: " Similarly, many members of RECs in Africa reported strong concerns about
the practice of exportation and storage of tissue samples at international institutions,
citing fears of the possible exploitation of both African researchers and populations
"
o Page 24 :" Lack of clarity about the differences between broad consent and blanket
consent was a source of worry among RECs members in African countries"
• Formatting problems: References: some journal names have not been abbreviated properly.
o All references were revised for proper abbreviation.
• Suppl. Tables 2 and 3 run over the page on the right side. Please use landscape
page format for wide tables.
o Done
Reviewer 1
• In the abstract, biospecimens were used throughout whereas samples are being used.
I suggest the authors to stick to one word usage and be consistent throughout.
o Biospecimens were used throughout the abstract.
• PAGE 5: What about Intellectual property that comes from the usage of samples for
projects.
o Intellectual property has been added in page 4 as follows “These include, among
others, questions about privacy and confidentiality, protection of human subjects,
benefit sharing, protection of innovation and intellectual property rights", and The
following reference was added “Pathmasiri, S., Deschênes, M., Joly, Y. et al. Intellectual
property rights in publicly funded biobanks: much ado about nothing?. Nat Biotechnol
29, 319–323 (2011). https://doi.org/10.1038/nbt.1834”
• Page 6:" How many of these centers were targeted?
o Actually what is meant by (center) here is the "central part/region of the country".
Sampling was done according to the governorate where the physicians worked. It did
not take into consideration the facility/centre where they worked in. The related
part of the methods was modified and will now respond to the remark more clearly.
• Page 6: " The calculated sample size was 218 participants."What would have happened
if the calculated sample size weren't reached? Was there a backup strategy in place?
o If the calculated sample was not reached, the strategy was to extend the time limit
and increase the communications to recruit more participants.
o Perhaps if these strategies failed, one more governorate from the same three geographic
regions could be included.
• Page 15: What about data protection and sharing policies within Egypt and the impact
on biobanking activities?
o As a response to this point, the following paragraph has been added in page 20 “At
the legal level, a recent data protection law formulated to govern the processing
and handling of personal data was proposed by the Egyptian government and approved
by Parliament. The Law applies to "personal data" as well as data that can be combined
with other data to identify an individual. The law is meant to promote the security
of personal data which is being processed and stored online. It also sets a legal
framework for the regulation of transmission of data to other countries”
• Page 16: This statement seems to focus more on the aspects of internal governance
than external governance. Does this alludes to the fact of lack of national policies
related to biobanking.
o Yes, and as we stated in the introduction in page 5 “Although the number of biobanks
and their research activities are growing in Egypt, no specific guidelines or regulations
for biobanks have been formulated. In Egypt, the only ‘guidelines’ to biobank related
research may lie in a number of chapters within a few medical documents”
• Page 16 : Trassport. Spelling mistake.
o Corrected
• Page 16 : Prisedent. Spelling mistake.
o Corrected
• Page 17: This is a topic of discussion that always comes up with biobanking discussions
and is always swiped under the table and not unpacks. Maybe see how other countries
have dealt with these aspects. In SA, our academy of sciences says the following:
"5.5 Intellectual Property Rights and Commercialization. The nature and scope of IP
rights and the potential for commercialization depend on the outcome of the investigation
into whether genomic resources are to be regarded as a common good and thus are outside
the domain of private property. If it is assumed that genomic data represent discovery
and not invention, the aspect of how IP will accrue from genetic and genomic data
is simple. Data need to be ‘productised’ into a service or a product before they can
attract IP rights. An example of such a service would be the mining of the data to
reveal a specific attribute in the data that was not obvious before. A product would
be to use the data to design, e.g. a drug that targets a specific sequencesig nature
or a diagnostic test that is designed to detect a specific signature in the sequence.
However, a product could also be the compilation of the genetic data in a unique manner.
The benefits of commercializing the above service or product will accrue in the bio
economy and these benefits are easily distributed if a pre-arrange dmodel exists for
its distribution. When genomic and genetic data are used for the purpose of generating
benefit, the benefit should be distributed in an appropriate manner, and not just
accrue to the public-private entity that innovated with the data. Benefit should reach
the group or community whose genetic material was used to generate data" Taken from
section 5.5 IP and commercialisation_2018 ASSAF_Human Genetics and Genomics in SA,
ethical, legal and social implications consensus study. DOI http://dx.doi.org/10.17159/assaf.2018/0033Tathe data." Taken from 2018_ASSAF_
o Thank you for providing this reference. We used it this part in the text in page
19 as follows “Benefit sharing can provide solution to this dilemma. If genetic data
are used to generate healthcare-related benefits, fair distribution of these benefits
should be carried out, and these benefits should reach the community which had supplied
the genetic material used to generate data resulting in these benefits”
• Page 17: Is there a data sharing and protection law in place in Egypt. If so, this
information isn't coming out in the paper.
o There is a data protection and sharing law as stated above.
• Page 17: It also depends how the data is collected and stored within biobanks. One
can have access to clinical information, however only minimal personal information
can be shared or it is de-identified for further sharing purposes.
o To clarify what Egyptian biobanks do in this aspect, we added the following statements
in page 20 “Protecting the privacy of biobank participants is one of the jobs of biobanks
and was stipulated for in the standard operating procedures (SOPs) of Egyptian biobanks.
Accordingly, Egyptian biobanks are held accountable for limiting disclosure and safeguarding
the integrity of the information stored in them through the use of coding and anonymisation."
• Page 17: Isn't there guidelines from health professional body or government related
to different scenario for when confidentiality might be breached. Otherwise this
could become a legal nightmare. Intentional and unintentional publication of personal
information should also be taken into account. As health professionals we are obliged
to adhere to patient confidentiality with sharing only in the capacity of work.
o We added the following paragraph about this point in page 21 “Article no 30 of the
list of professional ethics of the Egyptian Medical Syndicate states that “A doctor
is not permitted to divulge the secrets of his patient which he/she had become acquainted
with by virtue of his/her profession, unless such divulgence was decreed by a court
order or in the event of possible serious and certain harm to others, or in other
cases determined by law. However, this applies mainly to medical practice and not
research. Thus, conditions where breach of confidentiality during clinical research
would be justifiable must be clearly detailed by the syndicate or similar body."
• Page 18: It depends also were the samples collected as part of diagnostic routine
and than consented that leftover goes to biobank or was samples specifically donated
from researchers. From a legal perspective when a specimen is donated it legally doesn't
belong to the participant anymore according to lawyers. But yes Biobanks acts as custodians.
o Thank you for your valuable comment.
• Page 19: Interestingly throughout the paper nowhere is there reference to Egypt
national or institutional ethics committee except regarding approval of the study.
One would think whether there is a national or institutional ethics committee there
would be guidance set by them with regards to storage of samples as well as the sharing
and protection of data. If there is could some regulatory compliance and guidelines
refer to them as well as national regulations and acts?
o We added the following paragraph to the introductions in page 5 " Most research
ethics committees (RECs) in Egypt use international research ethics guidelines, such
as the Declaration of Helsinki and guidelines of the Council for International Organisations
of Medical Sciences (CIOMS) and/or the Islamic Organisation for Medical Sciences (IOMS)
to review research protocols" and to recommendations in page 26 , which includes
data about local ethical committees and network in Egypt “Based on the views of stakeholders
and taking into consideration specific factors related to the Egyptian cultural norms
and legal framework, we believe that biobanking ethical guidelines would be best developed
through the collaboration of different RECs. Such collaboration could be facilitated
by the Egyptian Network of Research Ethics Committees, which was founded in 2008 in
order to help harmonize the work of different Egyptian RECs. The network includes
23 ethics committees, which can work together to develop an ethical framework for
biobanking activities in Egypt."
• Page 19 : So is Broad consent allowed in Egypt? As well as Blanket consent?
o No, only board consent is allowed in biobanks in Egypt. We added this statement
in page 24 “Secondly, board consent is the only model of consent that has been adopted
and approved by different biobanks in Egypt.”
• Page 20: It all comes down to the consent form whether there is provision made for
this. As long as researcher give participants the option regarding return of results.
Alternatively a statement by researchers to indicate that return of results will only
be in the form of publication and not individually should also be adequate and covered
in the consent form.
o Thank you. We added the following statement in page 25 “We believe that, for the
time being, return of results should only be offered in the form of publications and
not on individual bases. This should be clearly stated in consent forms.”
Reviewer 2:
• Methods section: Authors should add more information on the coverage of the survey.
Was a nationally representative database of physicians used, and so the survey was
nationally representative?
o It was mentioned in the methods section that the survey used the convenient sampling
technique to recruit the participants. It used the minimum sample size based on the
required data by Epi-Info software. The authors selected three governorates which
represent three geographic regions in the country (Alexandria representing north,
Cairo representing centre and Assiut representing south). There are administratively
27 governorates in Egypt, and more geographic regions could be identified. However
our division into north, south and center could be considered a rough classification
which is expected to cover governorates with large populations and consequently larger
proportions of physicians. The survey was not meant to be nationally representative
due to the sampling techniques used. In the modified version of the manuscript we
added to the title "limitations" this information and that the data are not nationally
representative.
• The phrase “and communicated with the group...” can be revised for better clarity.
What was communicated to the target group?
o We used the word "distributed" instead of "communicated".
Introduction
General note:
• The authors have written this section in the simplest form, which generally is a
good, capturing highlight about biobanking. However, I find a little bit of problem
with the synchrony of the paragraphs leading to the justification of why this paper
was written. Especially, the link between why stakeholder engagement is needed and
thus, this study on stakeholder perception is not fluid enough to support a convincing
justification.
• I seem to think that paragraphs 3 (“One of the biggest….”) and 4 (“Stakeholders
can…”) can be modified to make the argument on why stakeholder engagement is needed
to support a governance and regulation regime for biobanks in Egypt, which would be
expected to further support ethical biobanking research in the country. This new paragraph
can then come after the submission about lack of regulations and linked with the sentence
that reads: “The development of local ethics guidelines…”.
o The order of paragraphs in the introduction as been modified. So, the flow will
be as follows
� The role of biobanks in genomic research.
� The ELSI challenges facing biobanks worldwide, including Egypt.
� Biobanking situation in Egypt and lack of specific regulations about it, including
ethical regulations
� Stakeholder engagement/sustainability as one of the ELSI challenges.
� Problem statement and the goal of this work.
• Paragraph 2, first sentence –“Both genomic research population biobanks are growing….”.There
is literature on types of biobanks, which the authors should cite. I have not come
across a scholarly reference that has listed “genomic research” as a type of biobank.
I am aware of the following types: population-based, disease-specific, tissue, DNA/RNA
(or more broadly, “genetic material” and virtual biobanks. All these can support genomics
research. A citation to support the biobank types listed by the authors should help.
Adjustments may be necessary for the absence of relevant citation to conform with
what is more widely documented. Alternatively, the authors may wish to modify the
opening sentence of this paragraph. Something like: “Genomic research supported by
population biobanks is growing worldwide”. Just a suggestion of how the submission
could be better clarified.
o This paragraph in page 4 has been modified as follows “Genomic research supported
by population biobanks is growing worldwide, guided by the hope that this research
will lead to better disease prevention and treatment through novel drug targeting,
personalized treatment, as well as prediction of disease risk. In addition to population-based
biobanks, human biobanks can be disease-based (collecting samples from patients with
a specific disease or a group of related diseases), genetic (DNA/RNA), project-driven,
or tissue versus multiple specimen types. They can be non-profit, commercial, or even
virtual (a virtual biobank is an electronic database of biospecimens and data that
exists independent of the location of the stored samples) "and a new reference was
added “De Souza YG, Greenspan JS. Biobanking past, present and future: responsibilities
and benefits. AIDS. 2013;27(3):303-312. doi:10.1097/QAD.0b013e32835c1244
• The first sentence on the page. Consider changing the words “communication” and
"Engagement” to their present participle forms for tense agreement with the lead word,
"identifying”.
o This has been modified as per your suggestion.
• Last paragraph before the section on “Subjects and methods”– The sentence that reads:
“In our previous work….”, leaves the reader wondering which issues were studied. I
would suggest the authors should review this sentence to indicate that in previous
work, they reported on knowledge and attitude of patients towards biobanking in Egypt.
That building on the report from patients, in this paper, they are reporting on what
physicians know and their attitudes towards biobanking.
o This was modified as per your suggestion.
Study design, Participants, Sampling and Setting
• The third sentence that reads “the physicians were recruited…”, can be more clearly
written. I would like to see recruitment and questionnaire response as two separate
activities. My understanding is that participants were invited to participate in the
study via e-mails and through social media. The questionnaire was designed on Google
Forms and those that agreed to participate were asked to use the link to the questionnaire
provided initially to respond to the survey. Perhaps this much explanation can be
moved to the section on “Study too and data collection”, and simply delete the sentence
“the physicians were recruited” from this section.
o Modifications in the referred to part of the methods were done as per the advice.
Study tool and data collection
• The second sentence, “study started with an introduction explaining what biobanks
are…” is lacking essential details to understand what was done. By saying “the survey
started…”, are the authors saying that this bit was contained in the questionnaire,
or was it preliminary sort of recruitment information provided? This clarification
needs to be made and necessary adjustments to the way it is reported here also made.
If it was the former, it would make more meaning to simply highlight the different
sections of the questionnaire. If it was the latter, the authors should be clear about
that and also indicate how this information was provided to persons recruited via
email vs those via social media. Here’s what I am guessing happened. A text containing
background information on biobanks and links to other biobank information resources
and another to the survey questionnaire was sent either to emails of identified potential
participants or a social media handle dedicated for this study. Upon reading the informational
text, individuals willing to participate were invited to open the questionnaire link
to respond to the survey. The survey questionnaire had mainly three sections – a)
demographic information; b) basic knowledge about biobanking before the survey; and
c) perceptions and attitudes on biobanking. However, these are my thoughts which I
thought I should share so the authors could see why I feel the section, if meaning
to convey what my thoughts are, needs to be modified to reflect same. Clarity and
synchrony in the conveyance of the information intended are key. Overall, I would
like to invite the authors to further review this section for improved clarity and
brevity.
o The introduction was contained in the questionnaire. The paragraph has been modified
in page 7 as follows to clarify this point “An introduction preceded the first section
of the questionnaire on Google Forms. The introduction included a brief explanation
of what biobanks were and a summary of their role in research. This was supplemented
by a number of links to videos and sources of further reading about biobanks (supplementary
files). The survey questionnaire was comprised of three main sections; a) sociodemographic
information; b) basic prior knowledge of biobanking; and c) perceptions and attitudes
towards biobanking. Participants were asked to record their level of agreement with
survey items (statements) by using a 5-point Likert scale (strongly agree=5, agree=4,
unsure=3, disagree=2 and strongly disagree=1).
Ethical considerations
• I do think that the statement provided, which was intended to facilitate an opt-out
consent model was inadequate in itself to be accepted and referred to as ‘informed
consent’. I would like to understand if the statement referred to by the authors (“By
completing this questionnaire…”), was the only information provided to the participants
to obtain their consent. Authors should consider writing out summarily how consent
was obtained if more than this statement was used in the process.
o The part on (Ethical considerations) was modified according to the above remarks.
• Authors should be more specific highlights on mechanisms adopted to keep data confidential.
o The part on (Ethical considerations) was modified according to the above remarks.
Results
• Page 8, last sentence. It is not clear why the authors chose to classify the participant
responses following the last sentence (“Moreover, the following statements…”) as indicating
uncertainty among the physicians. Rather I would say the statements show issues for
which the physicians were less in favor of regarding biobanking.
o We agree with the reviewer that regarding these four statements the respondents
were less in favor with biobanking issues as all the responses were recorded by using
a 5-point Likert scale: 5=strongly agree, 4= agree, 3=unsure, 2=disagree and 1=strongly
disagree. However, we meant to highlight and specify that around quarter the respondents
reported their response as "unsure" which is considered more neutral on the scale
compared to "disagree/ strongly disagree). The method of recording the responses to
the survey items was added to the subjects and methods section. Subjects and methods/
Study tool and data collection.
• Page 10, paragraph 1. While indeed the sentences and structure in which the results
were presented here could be understood, with much attention, I think there is room
for improved clarity. I also do not think it was appropriate to group disagreement
and uncertainty in the responses. I would suggest that these should be separated since
already ‘disagreement’ covered “strongly disagree” and “disagree. If this is done,
you would see that except for items 3 and 7, most participants agreed with the statements
proffered.
o The authors highlighted the statement which attained the highest level of disagreement
(41.3%) and omitted the comment regarding the uncertainty to avoid any probable confusion
to the readers. The corresponding paragraph in page 11 was modified.
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• On the level of agreement on the governance issues: I would suggest we also add
the
Statements that responds least agreed with –“Biobanks own the stored samples. (35.4%)”.
o Done and thanks for highlighting these points which will indeed improve the clarity
of the results. A sentence was added to the corresponding paragraph in page 12 which
addresses the governance issues.
• On the level of agreement of the respondents to survey items regarding consent,
authors should also consider at least reporting the level of agreement on broad consent
(47.9%) and expectations to receive some of form of compensation (48.5%).
o Done and thanks for highlighting these points which will indeed improve the clarity
of the results. A sentence was added to the corresponding paragraph in page 13 which
addresses the consent and participant's rights in the results section was modified.
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• On the last sentence on associations between demographic and biobanking KAP variables,
authors should consider changing “…and the type of research of current or future research
of the participant” to “…and the current or future research interests of the participant”.
o The change suggested by the reviewer was applied in the last paragraph in the results
section.
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• Knowledge about biobanking – authors should provide the actual proportion of participants
that have prior knowledge about biobanks. The first sentence should also be corrected
to indicate specifically, the variable that the authors are talking about here – is
it knowledge about biobanks in general or that of the existence of biobanks?
o This paragraph has been in page 15 modified as follows " Overall, responses showed
that participants had an acceptable degree of knowledge of the meaning and function
of biobanks, with 65.5% of participants indicating that they had heard of the term
biobanks before " We also indicated the actual proportion of those who know that there
are biobanks in Egypt " Despite recognizing the ‘term ‘biobanking,’ less than half
of our participants (45.7%) indicated knowledge of the existence of several biobanks
in Egypt."
• With a careful review, this section can be markedly improved brevity and clarity-wise.
For example, the second sentence here can be modified to read: “In a similar survey
among patients, we reported that more than 80% of participants had never heard about
the term, “biobanking”, before the survey.
o This has been modified as per your suggestion.
• The use of the word “that’s” in the tenth sentence is rather informal and should
be corrected, please. Authors should also be diligent in making these sorts of corrections
in relevant parts of the manuscript.
o The word has been removed and the whole manuscript was sent for language proofreading.
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• General attitude towards biobanking – Authors could modify the sixth sentence to
start with “For example, a study similar that being reported here showed a negative
correlation…..”.
o This has been modified as follows " Another comparable study to the current work
reported a negative correlation between willingness to donate samples to biobanks
and higher levels of education"
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• “Perceptions and attitude…. and sharing of samples”–
Provide relevant reference(s) for the sentence on sharing samples with commercial
entities - “Sharing of samples across borders and with commercial….”
o The paragraph has been modified in page 19 as follows “Although commercialization
represents one means of achieving financial sustainability, it raises ethical questions
regarding fair sharing of benefits and represents a concern for biobank sample donors.
Concerns about biobank commercialization are linked to fears of losing control of
public biobank resources to for-profit companies and organizations, which may stand
in contradiction to the altruistic purposes for which participants volunteer to donate
“
And the follwing two refernces were added
• Nicol D, Critchley C, McWhirter R, Whitton T. Understanding public reactions to
commercialization of biobanks and use of biobank resources. SocSci Med. 2016 Aug;162:79-87.
doi: 10.1016/j.socscimed.2016.06.028. Epub 2016 Jun 16. PMID: 27343817.)
• Caulfield T, Burningham S, Joly Y, et al. A review of the key issues associated
with the commercialization of biobanks. J Law Biosci. 2014;1(1):94-110. Published
2014 Feb 25. doi:10.1093/jlb/lst004)
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Limitations
• I think the limitations reported are valid, but authors should provide an additional
a phrase or a sentence to indicate why the two issues mentioned were limitations.
In addition, I would like to encourage the authors to think of other important limitations
that they may have missed. For example, was the online-based survey the best approach
to optimally reach this sample population? Are there already biases from the approach
for this study towards professionals that are social media savvy, and how might that
affect representativeness?
o The limitations of the study were modified in page 26 as follows” There have been
some limitations to this study. Firstly, we collected data from physicians from three
governorates using a convenient sampling method for reasons of time and resource limitations.
Although these governorates represent the main geographical regions of Egypt, and
medical curricula in different medical schools are comparable, differences in research
environments at these medical schools could have affected responses. Secondly, no
attempt was conducted to ascertain the amount of bioethics education participants
had received before recruiting them into the study. Bioethics education could have
affected the responses of some participants, especially with regards to the different
types of informed consent. Finally, conducting the survey online may have caused a
degree of bias in favor of younger physicians, who are more likely to be comfortable
using the internet and social media. Due to these limitations, this study would be
regarded as an exploratory study rather that a nationally representative survey."
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