Peer Review History
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PONE-D-20-27287 Stool metabolome-microbiota evaluation among children and adolescents with obesity, overweight, and normal-weight using 1H NMR and 16S rRNA gene profiling PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Jaimes, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Both reviewers agreed that more or somewhat different analysis could benefit the manuscript. I agree with reviewer 1's concerns about the specific components of the different diets, and the nuance that is creating in microbiomes by nutrient type, bioavailability, and preparation effects. I encourage the authors to provide significantly more detail on the diets to address this point. Reviewer 2 suggested additional citations, which were accidentally omitted in their submitted review. These include: Shankar, V., Homer, D., Rigsbee, L. et al. The networks of human gut microbe–metabolite associations are different between health and irritable bowel syndrome. ISME J 9, 1899–1903 (2015). https://doi.org/10.1038/ismej.2014.258 and Cribbs, S.K., Uppal, K., Li, S. et al. Correlation of the lung microbiota with metabolic profiles in bronchoalveolar lavage fluid in HIV infection. Microbiome 4, 3 (2016). https://doi.org/10.1186/s40168-016-0147-4 Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 10 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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[Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Summary – This study examines associations between microbial taxa, based on 16S rRNA sequencing, and the stool metabolome, via 1H NMR, in normal, overweight, and obese individuals. While interesting, the associations of both microbial taxonomy and metabolites with obesity is well described in the literature. This manuscript offers no new concepts, and significant issues must be addressed. Conceptual/Major Comments – 1. Given the focus on obesity, metabolites, and diet, the description of diet in this study is lacking on multiple levels. a. The statement that diet was controlled in this study by simply balancing macronutrients (fats, carbohydrates, and protein) is a misleading overstatement. Given these constraints, one subject could have eaten simple carbohydrates (e.g., highly processed white bread) and another subject could have eaten an equivalent caloric percentage of carbohydrates of completely complex carbohydrates (e.g., fruits, vegetables), and these would be considered the same; however, these diets would lead to extremely different microbiota and metabolomes. b. Additionally, there is no description of calorie controls beyond the statement that “the children with obese/overweight on a caloric restriction”. Given that half of the metabolites identified (arabinose, galactose) are found in food and do not require transformation by microbial metabolism, a highly plausible explanation is that subjects in the OW and OB groups consumed more food that resulted in the higher amounts of arabinose and galactose in the stool. If diet is to be considered in this manuscript, there must be a complete explanation and analysis of diet as a co-factor. 2. The control group (normal weight) is a group that was receiving treatment of respiratory or locomotive conditions. Individuals with underlying and potentially confounding conditions should not be used as controls. 3. A complete description, or reference, is needed to describe the mock community used as a reference. 4. The relationship between gut microbiome and obesity has been examined extensively in many studies with large sample sizes. For a summary see: Sze, M.A. and Schloss, P.D., 2016. Looking for a signal in the noise: revisiting obesity and the microbiome. MBio, 7(4), pp.e01018-16. Additional validation of these trends is not needed. The same holds for the SCFA connection, for example Schwiertz, A., Taras, D., Schäfer, K., Beijer, S., Bos, N.A., Donus, C. and Hardt, P.D., 2010. Microbiota and SCFA in lean and overweight healthy subjects. Obesity, 18(1), pp.190-195. Kim, K. N., Yao, Y., & Ju, S. Y. (2019). Short Chain Fatty Acids and Fecal Microbiota Abundance in Humans with Obesity: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis. Nutrients, 11(10), 2512. https://doi.org/10.3390/nu11102512 The authors should consider refocusing the analyses on the age of the subjects (most studies have been conducted in adults) and/or additional types of analyses that have not been previously conducted. 5. Speculations regarding mechanisms (i.e., increased energy harvest) are lacking support and should be revised. 6. Please consider changing the type of figure used to display taxonomic abundance (Figure 4). The pie charts currently used are an ineffective and inaccurate method of representing the data, as they do not include any display of variance. Consider using a heatmap to show intersubject variability. Additionally, the Firmicutes/Bacteroidetes appear to be incorrect based on the data presented in this figure (N – 50.4/34.1 = 1.48, not 2.2; OW – 57.9/28.7 = 2.02, not 3.4; OB – 59.3/26.2 = 2.26, not 5.7). 7. Tukey’s HSD provides weak control of Type I error. Please consider using false discovery rate to correct for multiple comparisons in this type of exploratory study. Reviewer #2: In this article the authors aim to show a difference in stool microbiome bacterial composition and metabolomic profile between children with normal, overweight, and obese BMI z-scores. They also attempted to relate the bacterial relative abundance with the metabolite abundance. Among the bacterial composition, the authors find 2 “suggestive associations” (I really like this wording): decreased Escherichia in the obese group compared to the normal group, and increased Tyzzerella subgroup 3 in the obese group compared to the normal group. Among the metabolites, the authors find 5 that are significantly higher in the obese group than the normal group: butyrate, arabinose, galactose, trimethylamine, and acetate. These increased metabolites support for the hypothesis that the gut microbiome in obese people has increased energy harvest compared to people of normal weight. Overall, the authors have a well designed and appropriately analyzed study that further supports the increased energy hypothesis that others have put forth. I found the discussion of the controversy around higher SCFAs as a biomarker (lines 333-342) particularly clear and helpful. I have a couple of suggestions that would improve the manuscript and some minor concerns that I would like to see addressed before publication. Major Suggestions: I would like to see a more sophisticated analysis to find associations between microbes and metabolites. The authors only examined microbes and metabolites that were significantly different across BMI groups for positive Spearman correlations (page 12, line 313). An analysis that includes all metabolites and bacteria could reveal other patterns that differ across BMI groups; examples include correlations (seen in Shankar, et al) and sparse partial least squares regression (seen in Cribbs, et al). You refer to the microbiome but only examined bacteria. A discussion that includes other microbes, or the caveat that only bacteria were examined, would widen the audience and appeal of the study. Minor Concerns: Lines 77-81: The sentence that starts “For example” is difficult to read and should be simplified to avoid having so many lists in one sentence. The correlations between metabolites (lines 175-178, 276-284, and fig 3) doesn’t seem to add anything and I would suggest removing it. Line 211 - When you removed cyanobacteria, were these all cyanobacteria or only those that could not be classified further (potentially indicating non-bacterial origins)? If the latter, please specify. Line 237 - There’s an extra comma between “or greater” and “a variance >10%”. Line 340 - This is the second sentence in a row to start with “Also”. Consider using “Finally”, another transition word, or nothing at all. Line 345 - I would suggest you move the reference to Fig 3 to after “with each other” which is what is displayed in the figure - if you decide to keep it, see above. Line 370 - Please specify that it is BMI z-score. ********** 6. 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PONE-D-20-27287R1 Stool metabolome-microbiota evaluation among children and adolescents with obesity, overweight, and normal-weight using 1H NMR and 16S rRNA gene profiling PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Havlík, ČZU v Praze, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The authors have done a great deal of work to revise their manuscript, and the reviewers and I were pleased to see that the changes improved the manuscript. A few additional considerations have been mentioned which may require some consideration by the authors, and a handful of very minor corrections have been noted. Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 14 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. Guidelines for resubmitting your figure files are available below the reviewer comments at the end of this letter. If applicable, we recommend that you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io to enhance the reproducibility of your results. Protocols.io assigns your protocol its own identifier (DOI) so that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Suzanne L. Ishaq, PhD Academic Editor PLOS ONE [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: 1. I appreciate the author’s providing more information about diet. I still have some additional questions/concerns. Was this an outpatient or inpatient study? If inpatient I assume that diet was controlled by the staff (although explicit information would be helpful). However, if this was an outpatient study, how was dietary management implemented? Were meals provided by the study, or were meals prepared by subjects/subject’s families? Additionally, compliance with dietary guidance is a well-established issue in outpatient studies. Was this controlled at all? Finally, how long were subjects on the controlled diet prior to sampling? This would be important to determine whether the observed changes were a response to stimuli (diet) or a new steady-state composition/function of the microbiome and metabolites. 2. I appreciate the additional information regarding control subjects, thank you! It might be interesting to compare reference data sets (e.g., HMP, other pediatric studies) to determine whether the controls in this study are similar to others, but that does not need to be a requirement for publication. 3. I appreciate the additional information on participants, but the comment was in regard to the mock community used for sequencing controls. 5. I appreciate the expanded discussion, thank you! I would recommend revising the wording of the statement “Despite consuming less kcal, the OW and OB groups still produced significantly more butyrate, which has been identified as the main energy supplier for colonic epithelial cells [8].” The measurement in this case is of butyrate in feces – which is butyrate produced by the microbiota but not consumed by the colonic epithelium. 6. This new figure conveys much additional information but is only at the phyla level. It would be helpful to include a genus level figure in addition to (not in replace of) the phyla level results. Additionally, the unsupervised clustering really shows the lack of segregation of microbial communities by group. I would suggest adding to the discussion the notion that while there are minimal differences in microbial community composition between groups, the metabolite data suggests that there may be differences in the metabolic activity of these microbes. 7. Thank you for the response. I think that this is fine but should be mentioned in the manuscript. Perhaps a more appropriate way to address this is to state that, while the significance of the metabolites does not survive correction using FDR, there are trends of interest given the sample size in this study. I agree that this data is an important and useful addition to the field! Reviewer #2: All of my previous concerns were addressed to my satisfaction and comments from the other reviewer and editor appear to be addressed as well. I appreciate the addition of the complete Spearman correlation analysis and feel that this helped round out the discussion of the increased energy harvest hypothesis. I would suggest the following, very minor, changes before publication: 1. Lines 313 and 314, replace p<0.001 with exact p-values, if possible. 2. Line 398, consider replacing “authors” with “instigators”, only because I was immediately looking for authors of another study. 3. Line 422 unnecessarily uses “directly” twice; I would suggest removing the second usage. 4. For showing taxonomic abundance (Figure 3), I prefer stacked barcharts, but this is clearly a personal preference and given that the other reviewer specifically asked for a heatmap it works. Either is preferable to a pie chart. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: Yes: Elliot S. Friedman Reviewer #2: Yes: Laura Tipton [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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Stool metabolome-microbiota evaluation among children and adolescents with obesity, overweight, and normal-weight using 1H NMR and 16S rRNA gene profiling PONE-D-20-27287R2 Dear Dr. Havlík, ČZU v Praze, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Suzanne L. Ishaq, PhD Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: Yes: Elliot S. Friedman Reviewer #2: Yes: Laura Tipton |
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