Peer Review History
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PONE-D-20-30757 Risk Factors and Visual Outcome of Non-Arteritic Ischemic Optic Neuropathy (NAION): Experience of A Tertiary Center in Kuwait . PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Behbehani, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Both of the reviewers found the importance in your paper, so please response the problems pointed out by them. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jan 14 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). 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You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors present characteristics of a group that has not been previously studied for NAION in the past. Thus, there is some relevance to the field. The paper needs to be reproofed for writing, as there are typos and verbiage mistakes (‘Yong’ for young, ‘visual outcome NAION patients’, instead of ‘the visual outcome of NAION patients’), even in the abstract. The introduction needs to be tightened and probably shortened, since they use a number of lax definitions. For example, while the ultimate lesion in NAION ultimately is an ischemic infarct, and in fact a few cases may be directly caused by ‘an infarct’, NAION is probably more commonly caused by a compartment syndrome resulting in capillary compression and ultimate ischemia, rather than a simple clot (Tesser et al). That is the reason a ‘disk at risk’ is so strongly correlated with NAION: that it predisposes to a compartment syndrome. Similarly, the studies using aspirin, IVT anti-VEGF have not shown effect, but that is not the reason treatment is directed at controlling systemic vascular risk factors. The reason treatment is directed at systemic vascular risk factors is that these have been shown to be associated with NAION. The idea that so many young individuals get NAION is quite new, and I would delve deeper into this in the introduction. Methods: A question comes up as to whether the younger individuals are actually experiencing NAION, and how they know this is not due to other causes such as mitochondropathy (LHON). The strongest association with diabetes is particularly interesting, since NAION is usually associated with HTN, suggesting there may be some genetic factor involved in this population. Additionally, 111 days is quite short (< 4 months), and this is a very short time to evaluate final vision in an ischemic optic nerve lesion. Results: Table 1 shows 41% of individuals>50 years, while Table 2 shows 41% of individuals <50 years. Which is the real number? The value of the report is based on two things: 1) the reporting from a specific regional group that has not been previously reported on. 2) the evaluation of responses and recovery in younger and older populations. The last is particularly interesting, since 59% of individuals developed NAION below 50 years of age: typically NAION is associated with individuals above the age of 50. What is the mean age of the below 50 group, and what is the youngest? This begs the question as to whether the younger individuals are actually experiencing NAION, and how they know this is not due to other causes such as mitochondropathy (LHON). They have few other associations, less crowded disks and they are male, as well as with many fewer vascular comorbidities, but strong association with smoking. The lack of visual field improvement is consistent with other studies. The discussion needs to be rewritten, and focused on the data they have. They bring in a lot of possible associations, but little actual analysis, for the simple reason, as they point out, ‘…several limitations of our study including selection bias, etc;). The reasons for the younger individuals and their lack of correlation with classical NAION comorbidities makes me suspicious. I would really focus on a better analysis of the data that they have, evaluating the two groups better (young and old), and bring into the discussion the possibility of other (mitochondrial) disorders masquerading as NAION, particularly in the younger individuals, as well as performing a secondary analysis on these younger individuals, with possible mitochondrial screening if available (it may not be). The reason for this caution is that the authors are potentially bringing into the literature a report that people will quote about ‘NAION affects more young people than people over 50’, and this is going to be very confusing, and possibly wrong. In this case, I do not think it excessive caution. Reviewer #2: Comments: This is a retrospective study which determined systemic vascular risk factors and disc configurations in NAION patients. The authors also compared visual function outcome between young and older subgroups. 1.“a crowded disc or small cup-to-disc ratio (=<0.3) was found in 31% of young and 43.3% of older NAION.” Do you include either crowded disc or small cup-to-disc ratio? I didn’t find the definition of crowded disc, small C/D, or disc at risk in methods? Is “Small C/D ratio” equal to or smaller than 0.3? This should be defined in methods about how you recruited the patients. But 0.3 is usually considered as normal ratio. “Disc at risk” is usually appreciated in the unaffected eye, because the affected optic nerve head is swollen. A “Disc at Risk” commonly has a cup to Disc Ratio less than 0.3 (usually 0.1). “Crowded disc” is usually used to describe small optic nerve head. The definition you use for the analysis should be clarified. It would be better to cite references. 2. Introduction Line 4: “Although NAION is thought to be infarction of the optic nerve head”. Based on multiple papers, NAION is thought to be associated with “hypoperfusion of optic nerve head” rather than infarction. 3. “Only one eye of each new NAION case was included” Is this for bilateral NAION? The number of unilateral AION and bilateral AION should be clarified. 4. “patients with severe diabetic retinopathy” Please define the “severe DR”. Is it defined by international clinical classification system for DR and DME? Does this mean the study excluded the DR that is worse than or equal to “severe NPDR”? 5. Visual field MD should be spelled out when first appeared in the text. 6. “Visual acuity change was defined as 0.1 logMAR unit change was considered either improvement or worsening.” Any references to support this definition? There is a paper recommended using at least 0.2 logMAR or greater to distinguish acuity changes from no change. (Daniel A. Rosser. How Sensitive to Clinical Change are ETDRS logMAR Visual Acuity Measurements? IOVS. 2003; 44(8): 3278-3281.) In Dr. Hayreh’s paper (reference 9), they used 0.3 logMAR. 7. Results: Seventy right eyes should be “ Seventy-eight”? 8. Table 1 should have headers for each column on the top. (e.g. Variables) 9. I recommend ranking the variables in table 1 and 2 in reasonable order, e.g. from the most common to the least common risk factors (diabetes, hyperlipidemia, hypertension, smoking…). You can still separate the systemic factors from ocular configurations and visual functions as it is now. 10. I’m curious about how many patients had finished 3 months and 6 months follow-up. Two months follow up is relatively short term. 11. Recently some papers discussed about young NAION and optic disc drusen. Did you have any chance to rule out optic disc drusen in young NAION in this study? 12. I don’t really understand this sentence. “except four patients who had 1 month of follow up and excluding those patients those patients had no effect on the final visual outcome analysis.” Who (how many) are included and who (how many) are excluded? If you didn’t include all subjects for follow-up analysis, I recommend mentioning it in table 1 as a footnote. I assume all the data in table 1 should be collected from 78 patients (eyes). 13. I recommend separating the results into several paragraphs with headlines. E.g. Basic characteristics of NAION patients (This should include follow-up), The risk factors in NAION patients, The risk factors in young NAION vs. older NAION, The visual function outcome in young NAION vs. older NAION… 14. I also recommend having diabetic or nondiabetic patients as subgroups to further analysis (risk factors and visual function). 15. “There was no statistically significant difference in the MD of the visual fields between young and older NAION patients neither at baseline nor follow up. ” Do you mean “no significant difference …either at baseline or follow-up”? 16. In the first and the second paragraphs of discussion, the “ischemic optic decompression trial” is the same as “In the optic nerve sheath decompression trial (IONDT) ”. This should be consistent with “IONDT”. 17. The heterogeneity of the follow up period meant the method of recording the final visual outcome was not standardized. In my opinion, the “methods of recording visual outcome” are visual field and acuity test but not follow up period. 18. In figure 1(A), ns should be followed by p value even if p > 0.05. 19. For table 2, I recommend calculating the p value for comparison of gender (male vs. female). ********** 6. 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PONE-D-20-30757R1 Risk Factors and Visual Outcome of Non-Arteritic Ischemic Optic Neuropathy (NAION): Experience of A Tertiary Center in Kuwait . PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Behbehani, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. One of the reviewer wants the authors to correct the manuscript by a native speaker. Please submit your revised manuscript by Mar 05 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The paper has bad spelling, grammar, to the point that it is painful to read and it was not reviewed by a native English speaker. The authors must understand that this is being read by a non-specialist audience who will not stop to struggle through their syntax, in addition to the errors they made in their arguments. I STRONGLY recommend that the manuscript should be reviewed by someone whose primary language is English before this is resubmitted! There are some important data here but it is overshadowed by non-scientific issues! There are also problems with both understanding of facts and logic! Please see my other comments in the attached review Reviewer #2: Thanks for the rapid response and the authors had addressed all the questions. Only some minor comments: 1. Table 1: The heading on the right column should be" Patients (n=78)". Second row, Age (years, mean± SD). Third row, "Below 50 years (n, %)". Please correct all the others in this table. 2. "+_"should be"±". "<=" should be "≤". 3. Results part 2, revise the subheading: Visual Outcome in Young NAION Versus Older NAION ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Page 19 of the compiled PDF: add the words to 'therefore it is likely that IT IS the cumulative and inter-dependent effects..... Reviewer #2: Thanks for the authors addressing all the comments. There are still some errors that need to be revised. I hope the whole paper can be polished before accepted. 1. “Non-arteritic ischemic optic neuropathy (NAION) is the second most common optic neuropathy following glaucoma in patients over the age of 50 years most common cause for sudden optic nerve-related vision loss.” This is not a sentence. Please revise it. “Optic neuropathy presenting with sudden vision loss” or “ optic nerve-related acute vision loss” is better than “sudden optic nerve-related vision loss”. 2. In results, “predominantly Middle-Eastern Arabs followed by Indian and Asian backgrounds.” I would recommend giving the exact numbers if it is available. 3. There are still some grammatical errors and the errors of putting space before or after the punctuation. e.g. It is associated with systemic risk factors such as diabetes , hypertension , hyperlipemia and anatomical risk factors mainly crowded anomalous optic disc (disc at risk) or small cup-to-disc ratio (2, 3). Please delete the space after diabetes. 4. Please check “+-” throughout the whole paper. 5. In table 1, “Cup-to-disc ratio , mean± SD”,Space should be added before “±”. 6. “<=” should be “≤”. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No |
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