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Reviewer #1: The manuscript "Systemic Helicobacter infection and associated mortalities
in endangered Grand Cayman blue iguanas (Cyclura lewisi) and introduced green iguanas
(Iguana iguana)" by Conley and colleagues is a very well written paper that describes
the occurence of a novel Helicobacter sp. infection in a captive group of endemic
iguanas on Grand Cayman as well as in syntopically and more remotely occuring green
iguanas. The story is of great interest for the readership of PLoS One both from a
veterinary and a conservation perspective. However, the study has some flaws that
need to be addressed prior to publication.
Although I can imagine the authors are correct with their assumptions, the biggest
isssue, however, is that Koch's postulates have not been fulfilled in the present
study. Therefore, the etiological role of the proposed Helicobacter is highly speculative.
This should be made (even) more clear! Unfortunately, authors also missed to present
any results from parasitology, bacteriology and virology, so one cannot conclude from
the presented data that the Helicobacter is the sole microorganism involved. The case
series has exhaustively been done using very good molecular results but failed in
different approaches to isolate respective strains (attempts done only from 6 blood
samples with uncertain methodology).
- We agree that definitive causation is an issue for this investigation and have tried
to increase the acknowledgement of uncertainty in the manuscript. Specifically, we
added the following paragraph near the beginning of the discussion (beginning Line
667):
o “A causative relationship between Helicobacter sp. GCBI1 infection, illness and/or
death, as defined by Koch’s postulates, was not definitively attained in our study,
as isolation of the organism has been unsuccessful thus far and therefore infection/challenge
studies could not be pursued. From a clinical standpoint, the identification of Helicobacter
organisms in blood smears and by PCR in sick iguanas would suggest that this organism
was associated with the observed clinical signs in both iguana populations. Despite
this support, the lack of disease-specific clinical signs and postmortem lesions,
and the lack of consistent histopathologic identification of organisms in more common
lesions, complicated confirmation of Helicobacter sp. GCBI1 as a distinct contributor
to mortalities. The results of the thorough clinicopathologic approach to these mortality
events described herein, however, reduce the likelihood of other principal causes
and strengthen the probability that these mortalities are a result of infection by
this novel Helicobacter species. Notably, neither the presence of spiral-shaped bacteria
nor increased mortality levels (other than those related to known predation events)
have been seen in this Grand Cayman blue iguana population in over 15 years of intensive
management and monitoring. This included clinical examination and testing, including
blood smears, as well as postmortem evaluation of mortalities. The relationship between
the presence of Helicobacter sp. GCBI1 and disease in green iguanas was more difficult
to define, as bacteremia was not adequately assessed in cases without antemortem diagnostics,
and this population has not been as extensively monitored as the blue iguana population.
Performing necropsies on all of the animals included in this report was a fundamental
step in ruling out other causes for these events, and no other consistent disease
processes were identified. Toxicologic and nutritional analyses were performed on
green iguana tissues during the 2014 mortality event in the West Bay region and were
unremarkable, and there was no gross or histologic evidence of toxicity or nutritional
disease in the Grand Cayman blue iguanas. Finally, the response of multiple animals
to antimicrobials, including clearing of organisms from circulation in the three tested
iguanas, was suggestive of a bacterial cause for the illnesses and mortalities, consistent
with the findings of organisms on blood smears and by PCR. While blood cultures to
investigate other bacteria in circulation were not performed in sick animals (culture
of blood samples was restricted to the use of Helicobacter-specific culture media),
there was no indication of polymicrobial systemic infection in the blood smears examined.”
- Additionally, the following was included within a second new paragraph towards the
end of the discussion (beginning Line 884): “The lack of specific and consistent clinicopathologic
findings, however, impairs our ability to confirm the causative relationship between
infection and mortality, and this is an important avenue for future research.”
Here are some comments for the authors in order to improve their study (I have also
uploaded a pdf version with minor remarks):
- is there an explanation why authors have not attempted to isolate the organism also
from tissues?
- Many of the diagnostics are not available on-island and thus require exportation
to the US (following importation of media, etc. in anticipation of mortalities).
We therefore needed to prioritize what samples were pursued for additional testing.
In doing so, and considering what was known about the disease in iguanas and about
Helicobacter species in general, we elected to save our Helicobacter-specific culture
media for samples with perceived higher likelihood of success, such as cloacal swabs,
feces and peripheral blood from suspected sick animals. Necropsies were performed
mostly on frozen carcasses, and long after death. Our experience (JGF) is that successful
isolation of Helicobacter species from such samples is unlikely. See lines 291-294
regarding attempted culture: “Samples for bacterial culture, including feces, cloacal
swabs and blood from both iguana species, were collected, inoculated into Helicobacter-specific
media [12] and shipped to the Division of Comparative Medicine at MIT where they were
stored at -80C until analysis. Culture technique was performed as previously described
for Helicobacter species [12].”
- We also added lines 652-658: “Samples collected for Helicobacter culture included
the 17 fecal and seven cloacal swab samples from treated and healthy Grand Cayman
blue iguanas described above, blood samples from six Grand Cayman blue iguanas (Studbook
#786, 2156, 537, 1046, 784, and 1278) which were positive for Helicobacter by case
definition, and 45 fecal samples from the apparently healthy culled green iguanas.
None of the samples produced positive cultures for this organism, including the blood
samples, of which four of the six were confirmed positive for Helicobacter GCBI1 by
PCR.”
- the etiological role is further complicated by almost identical histological findings
in the Helicobacter negative group, why did authors go not further into detail with
their established highly sensitive qPCR protocol? Wouldn't it be possible to investigate
all tissues separately in order to better estimate the bacterial load per organ?
- Yes, the qPCR assay targeting H. sp. GCBI-1 could quantify bacterial presence per
organ for comparison, but there were a number of inter-sample variables that could
not be accounted for, rendering such a comparison invalid. Variables were largely
a factor of the retrospective nature of this project. As sample collection was not
uniform between cases, especially in regards to frozen tissue collection, formalin
fixed paraffin embedded tissue was often used instead. This could increase the opportunity
for contamination in addition to reducing available DNA due to prolonged formalin
immersion (exportation from Grand Cayman often resulted in prolonged formalin immersion).
Additionally, the potential for cross-organ (intra-organismal) contamination at the
time of collection could not be definitively excluded.
- how can authors explain the quite long times (18 days and 3.5 months) until death
despite antimicrobial therapy in two individuals? How can the relapse in #2156 be
explained?
- Studbook #1046 presented on 1Jun16, was treated and eventually died on 18Jun20.
Spiral bacteria were present on blood smears on the 1st and 3rd of June, but not on
the 10th and no evidence of ongoing Helicobacter infection was identified postmortem
(silver stains and molecular testing were negative). Necropsy revealed gastroenteritis
and bacterial sepsis. In this case, we suspect that Helicobacter infection was resolved,
but infection, hospitalization, etc., may have predisposed this animal to opportunistic
(non-Helicobacter) bacterial infection. These details were provided in the Pathology
results, lines 527-530: “Death of Studbook No. 1046, who died 17 days after presentation,
was attributed to gastroenteritis and bacterial sepsis, with no evidence of Helicobacter
infection at necropsy, despite being positive for circulating spiral-shaped bacteria
at initial presentation (Tables 1 and 3).”
- Studbook #537 initially presented on 1Jun16, and had spiral bacteria on a blood
smear at that time. He improved with treatment, but was found dead on 25Sep16. Necropsy
did not reveal a cause of death and all Helicobacter diagnostics were negative at
that time. We therefore suspected that he was Helicobacter negative at the time of
death. These details were provided in the Pathology results, along with above, lines
530-534: “Studbook No. 537 was also confirmed positive via blood smear at initial
presentation in June 2016, was released to the quarantine facility, and was found
dead approximately 16 weeks later in September 2016; Helicobacter sp. GCBI1 infection
was not identified at necropsy and a cause of death was not determined (Table 1).”
- I will also take this opportunity to note that we adjusted our manuscript to reflect
that these two individuals were not Helicobacter positive at the time of death. This
included adjusting the paragraph quoted above, the introductory numbers (lines 517-534)
and lesion prevalence (lines 535-550) in the pathology results section, and in other
locations (lines 42-43, lines 499-511 and line 700)
- Studbook #2156 initially presented on 12Jun2016 and was positive for Helicobacter
via blood smear and blood PCR at that time. She recovered and then re-presented with
similar signs, although diagnostics did not reveal Helicobacter infection. Unfortunately,
the only Helicobacter testing performed at that time was a blood smear, which was
read as negative. As the clinical signs are not specific for Helicobacter infection,
it is possible that this was an unrelated illness and I apologize for any suggestion
that this was a relapse. As such, and since this re-presentation would not have qualified
for inclusion in this manuscript based on our parameters, we have removed the following
sentence from the manuscript (lines 511-514): “One of the surviving animals (Studbook
No. 2156) presented one year after the initial episode, with the same clinical signs
as a year before. Both hospitalization and recovery times were shorter, with two days
of hospitalization in 2017 vs eight days in 2016. However, infection with Helicobacter
sp. GCBI1 was not confirmed in 2017”.
- why did authors miss to conduct also neurological examinations in sick animals (and
also present data from neural tissue)?
- Thank you for pointing this out. Physical examinations were performed on all blue
iguanas presenting clinically ill, which included assessment of the neurologic status,
but we failed to specifically mention that in the manuscript. We have added the following
comment (lines 415-417): “Specific neurologic deficits, beyond depression and stupor,
were not noted on physical examination in any of the animals (e.g. no proprioception
deficits, ataxia, nystagmus, head tilt, etc.).”
- In almost all cases, the central nervous system was not collected postmortem. In
those cases in which brain was available for examination, it was unremarkable. We
have added a sentence regarding tissue collection to the methods (lines 205-209):
“Collected tissue sets were inconsistent, but nearly all cases included at least liver,
lung, kidney, stomach, intestine and skeletal muscle in formalin (one case, Studbook
No. 3003 was markedly autolyzed and only skeletal muscle and skin were collected);
central nervous system tissues were infrequently included.”
- despite presenting highly sophisticated wheather data I do not understand their
relevance: why is precipitation data not presented for the whole year? Why should
animals suffer from disease especially after raining (aggregation at water sites should
not be necessary then, green iguanas remained healthy despite carrying the microorganism,
3-year drought period seems to be a higher stressor but without signs of disease)
- Thank you for pointing this out. To clarify, we analyzed multi-decadal trends in
precipitation patterns to get an understanding of the decadal above and below average
variability between 1976 and 2019, which indicated that Grand Cayman was undergoing
a cyclic period of drought in 2016. We then looked at the daily precipitation records
for the time period between 2014-2016, not just the those few months we presented
in Figure 2. For the ease of visualization, we focused on and only presented the time
periods bracketing when the Helicobacter-related mortalities occurred, so we could
show the reader the pattern of rainfall related to illness, and place within the multidecadal
context. A comment to this effect has been added to the caption for Fig2 (lines 380-384)
for clarity: “Dates of Grand Cayman blue iguana onset of signs attributed to Helicobacter
infection or dates Helicobacter positive specimens were found deceased are designated
by red lines. For the ease of visualization, presented are the precipitation measurements
bracketing the time period when the Helicobacter-related mortalities occurred.”
- We feel it is important to document that this mortality event and illnesses occurred
within a cyclical pattern of drought on Grand Cayman and that the mortalities occurred
during the driest multi-year period in recent decades (fig 3 and lines 397-400).
This could result in an increased potential for transmission between free-ranging
individuals at reduced water sources, where animals congregate to utilize fewer water
resources. Regarding infection post-rain events, we discuss the potential for runoff
or heavy rainfall potentially resulting in water contamination and contributing to
infection (lines 907-911). We agree that this data does not prove causation, but we
feel this data is important to have already documented for future research to see
if a correlation or pattern holds up during any future outbreaks on the island, especially
given the research showing waterborne Helicobacter species.
- authors present data from 2014-2016: what happened thereafter (further losses?)?
- Data presented runs through 2017, but no positive cases were identified that year.
Two additional Helicobacter mortalities were identified in Blue Iguanas in 2019, but
results from those cases were not available when this manuscript was compiled.
- authors have conducted some monitoring in apparently only one additional species
(green iguana) with very few to no further evidence, but sampling was a little curious
(fecal samples (although choanal samples were tested positive before). Why not e.g.
gastric or cloacal wahshings? Why not choanal samples in the Blue Iguanas instead?
Why not sampling outside QEIIBP?
- Sampling techniques have evolved throughout this event as we learn more about the
disease and about helicos in non-mammalian species. Choanal swabbing of the green
iguanas was done opportunistically on culled animals, based on recent reports of helicos
being found in nasal swabs of chelonians, and we focused on the QEIIBP as that is
where the majority of Helicobacter cases have been identified. Fecal testing had
been done earlier on green iguanas based on more typical Helicobacter biology and
association with the gut. Moving forward in future studies, choanal swabbing will
be performed more broadly on blue iguanas and expanded to other sympatric species,
including additional green iguanas.
- With regard to sampling outside of QEIIBP, all sampling to date has been done in
sick blue iguanas (diagnostic) and in the blue iguanas held in the captive breeding
facility (screening). The only other known populations of blue iguanas are in protected
areas which are difficult to access for monitoring these populations. Sampling of
healthy blue iguanas in these populations would require significant efforts in trapping
and was not deemed worthy of the potential risks to these endangered animals. We
have monitored for wild blue iguana mortalities from around the reserves (i.e. road
fatalities), but assume that the vast majority of mortalities outside these monitored
areas are never found.
- can authors exclude a non-infectious etiology (e.g. (plant) poisoning)? Please discuss.
- We cannot definitively exclude this possibility. That being said, classic lesions
associated with toxicity (e.g. hepatic or renal damage) were not seen histologically
and unusual gastric content or other indication of toxicity, was not found grossly;
this includes a lack of oleander plant material or evidence of heart failure that
would be expected with oleander toxicity. While they most surely exist, we are not
aware of other plants with potential toxicity for iguanas on Grand Cayman, and there
have been few reports of toxin-related mortality events in free-ranging reptiles in
the literature. The potential for chemical intoxication was discussed with the Mosquito
Research and Control Unit in Grand Cayman and there was no temporal association with
pesticide spraying and mortalities. Toxicity was not specifically investigated in
the blue iguanas, but was pursued during the green iguana mortality event in 2014.
GCMS, heavy metal and vitamin E levels performed on frozen liver in those cases were
unremarkable. Given the hemorrhage identified in multiple infected iguanas, anticoagulant
rodenticides may also be considered as a cause for mortality. However, as hemorrhage
was not present in all cases and was not considered fatal in all of those that were
affected, and as coagulation deficits are the only known mechanism in which these
compounds contribute to death, anticoagulant intoxication was deemed unlikely. Finally,
the presence of circulating Helicobacter, especially in the blood, splenic and hepatic
tissue, in only sick animals supports its involvement in the disease. Similar organisms
have not been seen in any pre-release blood smear evaluation since the inception of
the BIRP, nor have they been seen in healthy animals held in the captive facility
or opportunistically sampled free-ranging iguanas. We have added information and
text to the discussion regarding potential differential diagnoses, as well as additional
statements of uncertainty in the relationship between infection and mortality (beginning
Line 667):
o “A causative relationship between Helicobacter sp. GCBI1 infection, illness and/or
death, as defined by Koch’s postulates, was not definitively attained in our study,
as isolation of the organism has been unsuccessful thus far and therefore infection/challenge
studies could not be pursued. From a clinical standpoint, the identification of Helicobacter
organisms in blood smears and by PCR in sick iguanas would suggest that this organism
was associated with the observed clinical signs in both iguana populations. Despite
this support, the lack of disease-specific clinical signs and postmortem lesions,
and the lack of consistent histopathologic identification of organisms in more common
lesions, complicated confirmation of Helicobacter sp. GCBI1 as a distinct contributor
to mortalities. The results of the thorough clinicopathologic approach to these mortality
events described herein, however, reduce the likelihood of other principal causes
and strengthen the probability that these mortalities are a result of infection by
this novel Helicobacter species. Notably, neither the presence of spiral-shaped bacteria
nor increased mortality levels (other than those related to known predation events)
have been seen in this Grand Cayman blue iguana population in over 15 years of intensive
management and monitoring. This included clinical examination and testing, including
blood smears, as well as postmortem evaluation of mortalities. The relationship between
the presence of Helicobacter sp. GCBI1 and disease in green iguanas was more difficult
to define, as bacteremia was not adequately assessed in cases without antemortem diagnostics,
and this population has not been as extensively monitored as the blue iguana population.
Performing necropsies on all of the animals included in this report was a fundamental
step in ruling out other causes for these events, and no other consistent disease
processes were identified. Toxicologic and nutritional analyses were performed on
green iguana tissues during the 2014 mortality event in the West Bay region and were
unremarkable, and there was no gross or histologic evidence of toxicity or nutritional
disease in the Grand Cayman blue iguanas. Finally, the response of multiple animals
to antimicrobials, including clearing of organisms from circulation in the three tested
iguanas, was suggestive of a bacterial cause for the illnesses and mortalities, consistent
with the findings of organisms on blood smears and by PCR. While blood cultures to
investigate other bacteria in circulation were not performed in sick animals (culture
of blood samples was restricted to the use of Helicobacter-specific culture media),
there was no indication of polymicrobial systemic infection in the blood smears examined.”
- As well as (beginning line 881):
o “Multiple avenues should be pursued as investigation of this disease progresses.
Our current research shows an association between helicobacteremia and mortality in
Grand Cayman blue iguanas, and an association between the presence of Helicobacter
sp. GCBI1 genetic material and mortality in invasive green iguanas. The lack of specific
and consistent clinicopathologic findings, however, impairs our ability to confirm
the causative relationship between infection and mortality, and this is an important
avenue for future research. This could include more sensitive post-mortem identification
of Helicobacter in tissues and lesions such as in-situ hybridization rather than silver
staining, and more comprehensive testing to better classify the negative disease state.
Identification and description of a carrier state requires additional investigation.
Given that we discovered the utility of choanal sampling in healthy green iguanas
towards the end of our investigation, additional screening and monitoring of sympatric
reptiles by multiple methods to include choanal swabs will be important to better
understand the role green iguanas play in disease transmission and whether Helicobacter
sp. GCBI1 may have emerged in one or both species from a crossover event. Such testing
is recommended not only to identify potential healthy carriers, but to also determine
Helicobacter sp. GCBI1 shedding by infected animals, treated animals before and after
recovery, or during periods of physiologic or environmental stress.”
- And finally (beginning at line 922):
o “Successful culture could also allow for challenge studies to be conducted to better
assess a causal relationship between infection and mortality, and better understanding
of this disease from a clinicopathological perspective. Finally, additional testing
to rule out other disease processes playing a role in these mortality events should
be employed. While toxicology and nutritional studies were performed on green iguana
tissues in 2014 with unremarkable results (heavy metal and vitamin E analysis and
GC/MS), such ancillary testing was not performed on blue iguanas.”
- are the authors really sure that their Helicobacter is really intracellular? I cannot
conclude this from Fig. 4, this might be an overlay phenomenon?
- While the majority of organisms are extracellular (including those overlapping erythrocytes),
large numbers of densely arranged organisms are convincingly found in the cytoplasm
of the mononuclear cells present. We have changed Fig 4 to a new photomicrograph which
we believe to show intracellular organisms more clearly, and have added arrows to
highlight the organisms (see figure caption, Lines 434-436).
- why did authors not try to find the Helicobacter OTU also in iguana food (PMID:
29457310), arthropods (PMID: 15499059) or further (iguanid) reptiles (cf. recent introduction
report on Devriesea in anoles and I. delicatissima (PMID: 28970515))?
- We appreciate these suggestions and had not considered the possibility of Helicobacter
in yeasts in food. Currently, the only iguanas on Grand Cayman are the greens and
the blues, and we focused our non-blue iguana sampling on the greens, rather than
on other reptiles. That being said, we did a small amount of testing of other reptiles
(snakes, anoles, turtles) and of mosquito blood meals, but elected not to include
that in this manuscript because it is a very small data set and we are hoping to broaden
that investigation for a larger future study.
- concerning therapy: why not focusing on research in human EHS therapy instead of
reptile formulae: PMID: 24274445 suggests macrolides and points out resistance in
fluorchinolons
- This is a good point and was really an effect of the research and investigation
in the US lagging behind real-time events in Grand Cayman. However, initial empiric
broad spectrum treatment before the causal agent was identified resulted in iguanas
surviving with this therapeutic protocol, therefore there was hesitation to change
the approach once the agent was identified. It’s also notable that only antibiotics
with established reptile doses were used. Although some reports do describe quinolone
susceptibility, your point that most are not susceptible, and provision of this reference,
is appreciated. Note that we did very briefly discuss antimicrobial usage in humans
as it relates to gastric vs. enterohepatic species (Line 740-746).
Reviewer #2: This manuscript describes the characterization of a novel Helicobacter
infection and its associated mortalities in endangered iguanas. The manuscript shows
interesting findings but lacks however some clarity and additional results. Below
an overview of my comments:
* it is difficult to extract from the text how many alive and dead animals were included
in this study and to which species they belonged. This should be clarified in the
text and referred to the tables.
- Thank you for pointing this out. While that information was present in the manuscript,
it was not stated clearly in one location. We have adjusted lines 324-325 to clarify
the numbers of live and dead animals included in this study, and now reads “In total,
there were 19 Grand Cayman blue iguanas, three live and 16 dead, and three green iguanas,
all dead, included in this report.” We additionally adjusted Table 1 and S1 Table
to read “SURVIVED” rather than “ALIVE” (columns 5 and 7 in both tables).
*Was blood only collected from the live animals? How was Helicobacter positivity investigated
in the dead animals?
- Blood was collected and banked from some live animals and from only a small amount
of the “found dead” animals during the necropsy, when it was feasible (depending on
length of time animal had been dead). All blood samples that were collected and imported
to WCS were tested via PCR. PCR performed on tissue, both frozen and in paraffin
blocks, was the primary method of investigating Helicobacter in dead animals, but
silver staining was also used. This information is detailed in Table 1 and S1 Table.
Additionally, more detail was added to the Methods in the pathology and molecular
subsections to help clarify (lines 205-209 and lines 224 and 228, respectively).
*Also the tables are difficult to read. What is meant with non-Helicobacter sepsis?
Sepsis caused in the absence of Helicobacter species or caused by non-Helicobacter
pylori Helicobacter species? Does the studbook number refers to the animal number?
In table 2, I would also include the animal species.
- “Non-helicobacter sepsis” was intended to indicate bacterial sepsis caused by organisms
other than helicobacters. We have changed “non-helicobacter” to “bacterial.”
- Regarding the animal ID’s, the studbook number is the only method of animal identification
used for the blue iguanas in this manuscript. The green iguanas are not managed and
do not have studbook numbers, so their WCS necropsy number was used for identification
purposes. To clarify, we added the following text to lines 147-149: “All individual
blue iguanas are identified by their studbook number, and the green iguanas are identified
by the necropsy number assigned to them by WCS.”
- The species common name for table 2 is included in the table title: “Table 2. Hematology
results for three Helicobacter sp. GCBI1 positive Grand Cayman blue iguanas.”
*In general, Figures are of bad quality. I would recommend to upload figures with
higher quality.
- The authors found that if they click on the “click here to access/download” to the
upper right of the pdf file that was uploaded for review that the high quality image
opens up. The figure DPI is greater than 300 and all were checked through the PACE
system. We have supplied new images for Figs 1, 4 and 5, but are not sure what aspect
of the images require improvement (is this referring to the digital/technical aspects
of the images or the aesthetics?).
- Fig 1 has been updated to include the Cayman Islands DoE crest, as they created
and own these images, and to add another location for green iguana mortalities which
was inadvertently omitted originally (see fig caption, lines 108-118).
- Fig 4 has been updated as described above, with a new image showing intracellular
organisms more clearly, and with arrows (see fig caption, lines 432-436).
- Fig 5 has been updated to show the spiral morphology of the bacteria more clearly
and to include arrows highlighting the organisms (see fig caption, lines 574-578).
*Figure 6: phylogentic tree: why not including gastric Helicbacter species ? Does
the novel Helicbacter species belongs to gastric or enterohepatic species? And are
the authors convinced that this Helicobacter infection is caused by one species. Or
do they think that multiple species can be involved?
- Gastric species including H. pylori, H. suis, H. bizzozeronii, H. felis and others
are already included in the tree.
- We did not formally assign the novel Helicobacter as gastric or enterohepatic based
solely on 16S sequence as our overall knowledge of the organism remains small and
we were unable to culture the organism to understand more of its functional characteristics.
We do, however, note in the manuscript that this Helicobacter falls phylogenetically
within a clade of known EHS based on 16S sequence (lines 602-605). We have not detected
any other species of Helicobacter in the blood or tissue samples and believe that
only one organism is responsible for disease.
*Did the authors also collect environmental samples to investigate the origin of this
novel Helicbacter species since it was shown by the authors that healthy iguanas are
not colonized with this species in the gut?
- No environmental sampling such as water or soil was conducted for this study. However,
we do briefly discuss the importance and potential for environmental DNA sampling
in the discussion (lines 903-907). Culture-based environmental monitoring is a good
idea for the future, but throughout this investigation, we saved our limited resources
and Helicobacter culturing media for samples which were more likely to yield positive
results.
*Did the authors try to isolate the novel Helicobacter species from blood cultures?
This would be of added value to further characterise this novel Helicobacter species.
Does this species produces urease since it is known that some enterohepatic species
have the ability to produce urease?
- Culture attempts using Helicobacter-specific media were made using blood and feces
and described in lines 652-658: “Samples collected for Helicobacter culture included
the 17 fecal and seven cloacal swab samples from treated and healthy Grand Cayman
blue iguanas described above, blood samples from six Grand Cayman blue iguanas (Studbook
#786, 2156, 537, 1046, 784, and 1278) which were positive for Helicobacter by case
definition, and 45 fecal samples from the apparently healthy culled green iguanas.
None of the samples produced positive cultures for this organism, including the blood
samples, of which four of the six were confirmed positive for Helicobacter GCBI1 by
PCR”.
- Similar to the historical difficulties with culturing H. suis (see: https://doi.org/10.1099/ijs.0.65133-0), we have so far been unsuccessful in isolating this organism in culture.
*page 22 (bottom): one animal, that survived the infection, showed a year after the
same clinical signs but was now negative for Helicobacter. What was the cause then?
Does this questions the pathogenic role of this Helicobacter species in iguanas?
- This situation was also questioned by the first reviewer, to which we responded:
“Studbook #2156 initially presented on 12Jun2016 and was positive for helicobacter
via blood smear and blood PCR at that time. She recovered and then re-presented with
similar signs, although diagnostics did not reveal Helicobacter infection. Unfortunately,
the only Helicobacter testing performed at that time was a blood smear, which was
read as negative. As the clinical signs are not specific for Helicobacter infection,
it is possible that this was an unrelated illness and I apologize for any suggestion
that this was a relapse. As such, and since this re-presentation would not have qualified
for inclusion in this manuscript based on our parameters, we have removed the following
sentence from the manuscript (lines 511-514): “One of the surviving animals (Studbook
No. 2156) presented one year after the initial episode, with the same clinical signs
as a year before. Both hospitalization and recovery times were shorter, with two days
of hospitalization in 2017 vs eight days in 2016. However, infection with Helicobacter
sp. GCBI1 was not confirmed in 2017.””
- In short, this could have been an unrelated illness, but without additional diagnostics,
we cannot comment in detail on this re-presentation.
*How would you explain the fact that Helicobacter GCBI1 was only found in blood smears
but not in affected organs upon pathological examination? Would this again questions
the pathogenic role in this animal species?
- A great question. Bacterial sepsis can lack identifiable organisms on histology
as much of the septic process is the result of the systemic inflammatory response
rather than the organism itself (see doi: 10.1007/1-84628-026-5_3). Additionally,
silver stains are notoriously difficult to read/interpret because of overstaining
(too much artefact) or understaining which make it difficult to highlight bacteria
in tissue samples. If bacteria are present in tissue in low numbers, detection becomes
a real issue, which is where PCR can be helpful. A comment to this effect has been
added at Lines 886-889: “This could include more sensitive post-mortem identification
of Helicobacter in tissues and lesions such as in-situ hybridization rather than silver
staining, and more thorough testing to better classify the negative disease state.”
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS IN TRACKED CHANGES IN THE PDF “PONE-D-20-22644_reviewer” ARE ADDRESSED
BELOW (Reviewer comment in BOLD with PDF line number):
Title: Please check with respect to actual taxonomy changes within the genus Iguana
Iguana iguana is the currently listed taxonomic designation for the green iguana per
ITIS, website accessed on 27Oct20, and on IUCN, website accessed on 27Oct20.
Line 47: Is there any evidence for a transmission from that place? which tissues?
We don’t have any direct evidence of transmission from the green iguana mortality
event to blue iguanas, and we state in line 52 of the track changes document that
“The source of infection and mode of transmission are yet to be confirmed.” Tissues
which tested positive in green iguanas from that event are listed in S1 Table. Additionally,
there are no blue iguanas in the regions of Grand Cayman where the green iguana mortality
event occurred.
Line 81: Reviewer corrected a typo in Campylobacterales
This has been corrected in the track changes version line 86
Line 84: helicobacteriosis
This has been corrected to helicobacteriosis in the track change version line 89
Line 87: please specify
“and Dinosauria” has been removed in the track change version line 92; while we were
referring to birds, they are actually not mentioned in this reference (8), and their
inclusion is extraneous to this manuscript. Thank you for identifying this.
Line 99: based on my comments below I would rather prefer to talk about a GCBI1-specific
PCR
We have changed “pathogen-specific” to “helicobacter-specific” PCR assay (line 105
in track changes).
Line 103: Reviewer highlighted helicobacter
Helicobacter (capitalized and italicized) has been corrected throughout the manuscript
in the track changes document.
Line 127: “pathogenic” is highlighted, but without comment
Authors are assuming the reviewer suggested the removal of this word which we have
changed to “target” (track changes line 140).
Line 168-169: text highlighted but not comments
Authors are unsure of the significance of highlighting.
Line 198: Please add more details here in a separate chapter Bacteriology.
A separate “Bacteriology” paragraph has been added to the methods (lines 290-294 in
the track changes document) and lines 651-658 in the results sections of the track
changes document.
Line 302, Table 1: Inappropriate table format cannot fully be evaluated. Furthermore,
footnotes and abbreviations (M, F) have to be properly introduced.
I’m very sorry that this table was not legible in the pdf version, but it apparently
should have been available in the draft view of the word document per the PLOS author
instructions (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/tables): “Tables do not have strict width and height requirements. Do not split your table
or otherwise try to make the table appear within the manuscript margins if it does
not fit on one page. In Word, tables that run off of the manuscript page can be seen
using Draft View. In the PDF version of the published article, very wide tables may
be printed sideways, and long tables may span more than one page.” Please advise if
this table needs to be adjusted for publication.
M, F and U have now been defined in the footnotes of Table 1 and S1 Table.
Table 1: Not sure, but normally symptoms is restricted to humans, so maybe better:
Date of onset of disease signs?
Symptom has been changed to “Date of Onset of Clinical Signs” in column 4 of Table
1 and S1 Table.
Table 1: Please specify the ID method (qPCR?) here again. I would prefer positive
and negative instead.
“Helicobacter positive” has been changed to “Helicobacter positive per case definition”
in the sixth column of Table 1 and S1 Table to reflect that this was an overall identification
of positive state by any means within our defined criteria (methods); because of this,
YES and NO remained in the table.
Table 1: The word “Open” is crossed out
Open has been changed to inconclusive in Table 1 and S1 Table as cause of death to
improve clarity.
Line 318: why in a deviant position compared to M&M?
The Climatology section in methods has been reordered to line 151 in the track changes
version to match the order in results.
Line 327: why not giving wheather reports for the whole year? One can wonder whether
there might be a second phase with higher precipitation?!
We focused on the time frame in which Helicobacter-related mortalities occurred, as
we were hoping to identify patterns related to illness. A comment to this effect
has been added to the caption for Fig2 (lines 379-384 in track changes): “Precipitation
measurements in mm (green bars) for the April-October periods for a) 2015 and b) 2016.
Dates of Grand Cayman blue iguana onset of signs attributed to Helicobacter infection
or dates Helicobacter positive specimens were found deceased are designated by red
lines. For the ease of visualization, presented are the precipitation measurements
bracketing the time period when the Helicobacter-related mortalities occurred.”
Line 363: Why did this not lead into a more profound neurological examination, also
with the signs listed below and also in the following year?
We attributed these signs to general weakness rather than true neurologic deficits,
but agree that the CNS should have been better evaluated histologically to further
investigate this. In almost all cases, the central nervous system was not collected
postmortem. In those cases in which brain was available for examination, it was unremarkable.
We have added a sentence regarding tissue collection to the methods (lines 205-209
in track changes): “Collected tissue sets were inconsistent, but nearly all cases
included at least liver, lung, kidney, stomach, intestine and skeletal muscle in formalin
(one case, Studbook No. 3003 was markedly autolyzed and only skeletal muscle and skin
were collected); central nervous system tissues were infrequently included. Frozen
tissue collection varied case-to-case.”
As mentioned in response above, physical examinations were performed on all blue iguanas
presenting clinically ill, which included assessment of the neurologic status, but
we failed to specifically mention that in the manuscript. We have added the following
comment (lines 415-417 in track changes): “Specific neurologic deficits, beyond depression
and stupor, were not noted on physical examination in any of the animals (e.g. no
proprioception deficits, ataxia, nystagmus, head tilt, etc.).”
Table 2: same problem with this and the following table...
Please see my prior note pertaining to Table 1 and formatting.
Lines 401 and 402: Symptom is highlighted in two places.
The text in lines 450-452 in track changes has been adjusted to read: “In two cases
(Studbook No. 895 died 5 days after the onset of clinical signs and Studbook No. 1046
died 17 days after the onset of clinical signs)…” Symptom has been changed.
Line 422: Can this and some of the "improved" values listed above be attributed to
your supporting care management, e.g. the infusion mentioned below?
Yes, the PCV and protein levels can be negatively affected by fluid therapy due to
dilution, appearing similar to changes caused by hemorrhage. However, the decreases
seen in at least two of the three animals with progressively decreasing PCV levels
showed a marked reduction that surpassed what would be expected from fluid therapy
alone. A comment to this effect has been added (lines 473-475 in track changes):
“Two of the three follow up PCV measurements decreased by greater than 50% over two
days, which we considered too great to attribute solely to the dilution effect of
fluid therapy.”
Line 470: it is 18 days above
Thank you for mentioning this, it has been corrected in the footnotes of Table 1 and
Supporting information Table S1 (17 days is correct): “Blue iguana 1046 had spirilliform
bacteria on blood smear at her initial presentation; she improved initially, but died
after a short second illness 17 days later.”
Line 549-550: Duplication
We have corrected lines 608-611 in track changes to remove the duplication and it
now reads: “While Helicobacter sp. GCBI1 was found in the blood of clinically ill
animals, Helicobacter sp. MIT 16-1353 was only identified in feces and was not associated
with septicemia.”
Figure 6: I doubt that quality of Fig. 6 is sufficient
We will work to ensure the quality of this image is to the standard of PloS One guidelines;
note that it has a resolution of 600dpi and was cleared by the PACE system prior to
submission. We found that if the link on the upper right of the image is clicked,
a full resolution version is downloaded and is much higher quality than the version
presented in the pdf figure.
Lines 743-753: The whole paragraph is rather speculative and can be ommmitted here.
This paragraph has been omitted in the track change version at line 847.
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