Peer Review History

Original SubmissionJanuary 19, 2021
Decision Letter - Yih-Kuen Jan, Editor

PONE-D-21-01984

Machine learning to extract muscle fascicle length changes from dynamic ultrasound images in real-time

PLOS ONE

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Yih-Kuen Jan, PhD, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Academic Editor, PLOS ONE

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Reviewers' comments:

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1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions?

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Reviewer #1: Yes

Reviewer #2: Yes

Reviewer #3: Yes

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2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously?

Reviewer #1: Yes

Reviewer #2: Yes

Reviewer #3: I Don't Know

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Reviewer #1: Yes

Reviewer #2: Yes

Reviewer #3: Yes

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Reviewer #3: Yes

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5. Review Comments to the Author

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Reviewer #1: This paper aims to provide a benchmarking assessment of using several available machine learning programs to track soleus fascicle lengths during different functional movements, including calf raises and walking. The authors have made all data available and I believe this manuscript has broad impact in the fields of biomechanics and rehabilitation.

I do have a few comments for the authors to consider before final publication:

In lines 145-147 the authors mention that there was no movement of the heels or knees during constrained plantarflexion. However, it is extremely difficulty to provide a strong plantarflexor torque without movement in this position without the legs constrained (i.e. thighs fixed so knees cannot move). Was this the case? The images that show the different tasks don't look like this was the case. If so, please add.

In lines 197-199 - it is possible that I misinterpreted this analysis, but as lower RMSE would be better, I think there may be an error in your description on adding the inverse of RMSE (to make lower values better). Wouldn't inverting RMSE make higher numbers better since the usual RMSE would indicate lower is better? This is a bit confusing in this region so clarification would be appreciated.

Figure 4 - is the 7 seconds of data represented here standardized to the same portion of the gait cycle? Was RMSE/correlations different in various parts of the gait cycle? As indicated in the discussion, it would be expected if the correlations were higher during a portion of the gait cycle with less noise introduced by gait contact. Is this the case?

Reviewer #2: In this study, the authors have investigated the machine learning to extract muscle fascicle length changes from dynamic ultrasound images in real time. The topic of the manuscript is interesting. However, there are some minor concerns that should be addressed before the article can be accepted for publication.

1.Please describe the purpose of the study more specifically.

2.Please explain more about how the ultrasound images were obtained while the particitares rotate their ankle and walk task simultaneously?

3. In table 1 and 2, the parameter "CORR(r)" are calculated with other clinical data. Please describe how the values of "CORR(r)" are estimated with input data.

4.In table 2, what the possible reason for lower values of "CORR(r)" for cross-task training? And what's those values mean in the red color in table 1and 2?

5.It was mentioned six participants voluntarily participated in this experiment. Can the authors explain that the database is enough for training machine learning?

6.Which ML model is optimal by the results in this study?

Reviewer #3: The authors attempted to use machine learning (ML) models to record muscle fascicle lengths in real-time. The current result showed that the performance of support vector machine (SVM) model was the best with an acceptable r and RMSE, indicating that it is possible to track soleus muscle fascicle with ML models. However, there are still some issues that need to be clarified.

MAJOR COMMENT

Introduction

I was wondering why this study chose soleus as the target muscle. Could the authors explain why measuring soleus muscle fascicle length is important? For me, gastrocnemius may be more important than soleus in functional activities.

Methodology

First, how did you stabilize the ultrasound transducer on the muscle belly in performing dynamic tasks? There are various equipment or devices that stabilize the probe during dynamic movement in the past studies. Please elaborate this experimental setting in the method. Second, why did you ask participants to perform each movement in the same order? Did that affect the outcomes? Third, I did not understand the reason to select the last part of data as ground-truth rather than the random samples. Could you explain the explanation more? Why could this approach simulate the real-time measurement settings? Last, I did not understand how you calculated Pearson correlation coefficient. What 2 variables did you want to develop the correlation? How did you derive multiple r values to average them?

Results and Discussion

Could you separate the results from discussion? I still think it would be better to make 2 sections apart. In addition, I was curious why the SVM was the best model. Was there any possible reason?

MINOR COMMENT

Line 240: What does “moderately strong correlation” mean? I consider “moderate to strong” might be a better expression.

Line 383: “For example, it may be ‘that’ in…” What did “that” indicate in this sentence?

Line 404-406: “Furthermore, feeding ultrasound images…robustness and/or resolution.” Could you elaborate more why feeding data from other devices that assess muscle quality could improve the measurement robustness and resolution? In my opinion, these devices record different qualities of muscle, so they provide different information regarding muscle.

All tables: All tables need bottom border. And please put footnotes to explain CORR because r is not unit.

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Reviewer #2: No

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Revision 1

Thank you for your time and for considering our work. We have addressed all comments and look forward to working together towards a PLOS ONE submission.

To see our detailed response to all comments, read our Response to Reviewers document attached in the submission website. *Might have to scroll down to the end of the document or end of the docs list to find it since we were unable to reorder documents. Thanks.

All Best.

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Submitted filename: Response to Reviewers.docx
Decision Letter - Yih-Kuen Jan, Editor

PONE-D-21-01984R1

Machine learning to extract muscle fascicle length changes from dynamic ultrasound images in real-time

PLOS ONE

Dear Dr. Rosa,

Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process.

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Kind regards,

Yih-Kuen Jan, PhD

Academic Editor

PLOS ONE

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Comments to the Author

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Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed

Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed

Reviewer #3: All comments have been addressed

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2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions?

The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented.

Reviewer #1: (No Response)

Reviewer #2: Yes

Reviewer #3: Yes

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3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously?

Reviewer #1: (No Response)

Reviewer #2: Yes

Reviewer #3: Yes

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4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available?

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Reviewer #1: (No Response)

Reviewer #2: Yes

Reviewer #3: Yes

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5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English?

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Reviewer #1: (No Response)

Reviewer #2: Yes

Reviewer #3: Yes

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Reviewer #1: (No Response)

Reviewer #2: By the responses form the authors, it may be found that the comments have been addressed appropriately.

Reviewer #3: For the issue regarding movement task order, like you said, strenuous tasks might influence the muscle fascicle lengths. Therefore, it might be a limitation in this study.

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Revision 2

Thank you all for your time and feedback. We have addressed the last comment on the Response to Reviewers Document and have updated the manuscript accordingly. Let us know if you still have any reservations and we will do our best to address them. Looking forward.

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Decision Letter - Yih-Kuen Jan, Editor

Machine learning to extract muscle fascicle length changes from dynamic ultrasound images in real-time

PONE-D-21-01984R2

Dear Dr. Rosa,

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Yih-Kuen Jan, PhD, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Academic Editor, PLOS ONE

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Reviewer #3: All comments have been addressed

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Reviewer #3: Yes

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Reviewer #3: Yes

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Reviewer #3: Yes

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Reviewer #3: Yes

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Reviewer #3: (No Response)

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Reviewer #3: No

Formally Accepted
Acceptance Letter - Yih-Kuen Jan, Editor

PONE-D-21-01984R2

Machine Learning to Extract Muscle Fascicle Length Changes from Dynamic Ultrasound Images in Real-Time

Dear Dr. Rosa:

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