Peer Review History
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PONE-D-20-30053 Choice of CTO scores to predict procedural success in clinical practice. A comparison of 4 different CTO PCI scores in a comprehensive national registry including expert and learning CTO operators. PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Salinas, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Reviewers have raised concerns -among other issues- about the lack of data reporting the relative use of different techniques to achieve vessel recanalization in order to appreciate the actual complexity of the cases included and how to account for different definitions across the diverse scores. Reviewers have highlighted that the value of scores should be put in perspective according to the skills and experience of the operators. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jan 28 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Everybody knows the importance to calculate scores in order to quickly understand the complexity of the intervention, but we also know that complexity is proportional to the operators expertise and clinical comorbidities. For this reason it would be desirable to use the best score just for learning operators. This is a real world comparison between different scores in unselected patients underwent CTO recanalization by expert and learning CTO operators. It was interesting to read this manuscript. I have nothing to add. Well done. Reviewer #2: In this paper the authors wanted to compare 4 CTO scores to predict the success in CTO PCI in the Spanish National Registry (REBECO). This regitry included expert and learning CTO operators, including more than 1300 patients treated in the period 2015-2019. The 4 scores have different anatomical variables that have been integrated in order to perform an objective assesment of procedural CTO difficulty. The most recent score is the CASTLE score, developed from EuroCTO database, with more than 14.000 patients included. Other three scores were: J CTO score (Japan), Progress CTO score (USA), CL score (France) The statistical evaluation in the paper considered the comparison between Spanish registry and the 4 scores in therms of calibration, discrimination and reclassification. The statistical analysis was very well developed and conducted, resulting in a slightly better overal performance of CASTLE score , but with only a poor to intermediate performance in the prediction of CTO PCI success among all scores. The authors concluded that the probability of success in these procedures depends on multiple factors, and the most important is operator's expertise. I think that CTO scores are really important for many reasons especially for operators at the beginning of their learning curve, because in that group of operator the correlation of CTO score complexity and success rate can be important. One young operator with success rate near 70%, can have a great help in selectong cases that are not so complex in order to reduce the risk of complication and increase their success rate. On the contrary in expert operators, with a success rate more than 90% overall, the use of a CTO score is less importan, because with the modern approach to CTO PCI, hybrid approach, one operator needs to be flexible during the procedure and he is able to change many techniques during the same procedure, also in complex cases with high CTO scores. Moreover the use of CTO scores is helping the operator in the most important phase of the procedure, that means the pre.procedural phase of planning and careful evaluation of the anatomical features of the CTO lesion (lenght, calcium, tortuosity, prox cap ambiguity, presence of interventional collaterals). Then less experienced operator can evaluate with CTO scores which complex patients might benefit for proctoring or referred to a more experienced operator. The authors conclusion is appropriate with the data presented in the paper . Reviewer #3: The authors used a national CTO database to compare the performance of 4 different CTO success prediction scores (CASTLE, J-CTO, PROGRESS and CL). They concluded that the CASTLE and CL scores had a slightly better performance overall, but the predicting ability of all scores was at most moderate. Up-take of CTO PCI increases and therefore the authors’ attempt to identify the most accurate score, which would facilitate the multiple aspects of CTO PCI decision-making and procedural planning, is interesting and clinically relevant. The study is well conducted and the manuscript well written. However, I have the following comments/queries: - The authors do not report the successful mode of vessel recanalization (Antegrade Wire Escalation vs. Antegrade Dissection Re-entry vs. Retrograde approach). Therefore, the adoption of advanced contemporary CTO techniques in the described cohort is unknown. This information is important in order to appreciate the complexity of the cases, the skills of the operators involved and to put the described cohort in a contemporary and comparable setting. Furthermore, other essential procedural information (e.g. stent length and size) are missing. - Although, the authors briefly discuss the derivation cohorts for the 4 scores, they do not discuss at all their different clinically relevant variables. For example, it is common knowledge among experienced CTO operators that CTO PCI in previous CABG cases (a scoring point for CASTLE and CL) is more challenging. On the other hand, how accurate can a score be when it does not include an assessment of collateral channels and the retrograde approach is the successful strategy in up to 1/3 of the cases in contemporary expert practice? The above discussion is an important part of any manuscript examining CTO PCI predictions scores. - Tortuosity and calcification have different definitions in different scores. How was this problem addressed during score calculation since the angiograms were not re-assessed? - The REBECO registry has a voluntary character and the data collected are self-reported. Is there a quality/validity assessment process for the collected data? Selection and reporting bias should be recognised as a limitation of the study. - According to the authors the registry includes expert and learning operators. An analysis based on the level of experience would be interesting. - The authors report periprocedural complications with a rate of 5.2%. Is there a breakdown for these complications? ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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Choice of CTO scores to predict procedural success in clinical practice. A comparison of 4 different CTO PCI scores in a comprehensive national registry including expert and learning CTO operators. PONE-D-20-30053R1 Dear Dr. Salinas, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Giuseppe Andò, M.D., Ph.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #3: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #3: (No Response) ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #3: Yes: Grigoris Karamasis |
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PONE-D-20-30053R1 Choice of CTO scores to predict procedural success in clinical practice. A comparison of 4 different CTO PCI scores in a comprehensive national registry including expert and learning CTO operators. Dear Dr. Salinas: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Giuseppe Andò Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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