Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionJune 18, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-18770 Embodied working memory during ongoing input streams PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Berberian, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. As you'll see from the reviews, both reviewers found multiple points where the paper was unclear. Please submit your revised manuscript by Oct 03 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This report is mostly a 'methods' paper describing a system for studying working memory. The authors claim that the most unique feature is that stimulus afferents to the modeled working memory are continuous. Their model does not employ gates are predetermined connectivity strengths to work, rather it evolves entirely based on a combination of short and longer term plasticity changes. The biggest problem I have with the paper is the simplicity of sensory afferent. It is modeled as a bimodal mixture of Gaussians. I would like to have seen a discussion of how this compares to stimuli in the 'real' world The authors seem to address this tangentially by indicating that future studies would include more complex stimuli, but do not discuss the limitations of the simple stimuli used. 'Neurons' explicitly do not connect to themselves in the model. But it is not clear whether as connections are modified during learning self-connections do occur. Moreover, it appears that connections can evolve from being excitatory to inhibitory over the course of learning. The discussion of whether this is a violation of Dale's principle is opaque and it is not clear whether the authors have already addressed this issue. The role of noise and randomness in the model is not explicitly addressed; perhaps this is why there was no need for repeated simulations and statistical analyses of the simulations. The raster plots that are presented for each of the figures, the plots of weight changes over time, and the 3-dimensional tracing of robot movements probably capture all of the data of the paper, but downloadable data files would be more consistent with the spirit of question 3 above. I like this paper and believe it should be published. I would have preferred if the authors added paragraphs to the introduction and discussion giving concrete examples about how this work differs from other models of working memory. Reviewer #2: In this paper the authors present an SNN hooked up to a Vector robot and run it through a series of different input sequences. The resulting activity of the network is discussed. I found the paper subjects to be interesting (SNNs and embodied robotics), but the overarching goals and relevance of the robotic agent in the experiments unclear. The experiments are framed as the network accomplishing various memory tasks, such as intermittent learning and recall, but I think explicit goals need to be laid out for each before this is an appropriate presentation. I'm not sure that the labelling of the tasks is consistent with the literature. For example, it is my understanding that one shot learning is usually a paired stimulus-response learning task, and less the case where the network continues to output the same signal after the stimulus is removed. At the beginning, the artificial agent is presented as a tool for studying embodied working memory; I think this needs to be further developed in this paper to support this claim. With no sensory feedback from the robot, I'm not sure I see the benefit of using it. I think it also important that the language be simplified throughout for better clarity. My main concern, however, is with the experiments themselves. I think it's important to specifically laying out criteria for successful completion for each. I also have the following questions. Experiment 1: What makes this unique from any network that converges to a set of learned weights? Do all such networks display one-shot learning and recall? Experiment 2: Is this the same as Experiment 1, but the network was simulated without input at several points before it converged? As opposed to Experiment 1 where input was provided until convergence and then it was simulated without input. Experiment 3: Are you expecting to see the rotating speed of the different motors increase over time as the tasks are learned? It appears in Fig 8-C that the activity that happens right after instantiation is consistent throughout, which suggests to me that no sustained learning is happening. Experiment 4: This experiment is framed as 'overcoming intervening stimuli', but that's not reflective of the task. The task is applying one stimulus for a longer amount of time than a different stimulus. The framing of this an 'an ability of the network to overcome distractions' feels like an overstatement. The result of the network activity being biased towards that of the stimulus presented longer seems fully expected. Overall, I think there is the core of some interesting work looking at SNNs and robotics, but I believe there is some substantial rework required with the experiments. If the goal is to show the use of an artificial agent there should be some form of system feedback incorporated. Without incorporating feedback I could also just assign different outputs to different behaviours in a consistent way without any need for an agent. For these reasons I am recommending rework and resubmit. Larger comments: The language is complex, I believe the information can be conveyed with much simpler phrasing. I believe the experiment paradigm should be fully automated as opposed to human run (pushing the buttons). What is the motivation for not setting up timers to generate consistent experimental triggers? I'd be interested to see a short mention of supporting biological evidence for working memory storing information through synaptic changes instead of in, say, population level activity. It's not clear to me how the Experiments build on one another. Nits: 'Reverberatory activity' is a phrase I haven't seen before. Is this not 'recurrent activity'? If 'reverberatory' is not established language in a field I suggest changing to 'recurrent' for clarity. For all non-3D plots, can you put time on the x axis? Line 55: SNNs require continuous modification of synaptic connections - What is this based on? Are you suggesting it is not possible to engineer functional SNNs without plasticity? - The citation shows how continuous learning _can_ be used in SNNs but does not appear to suggest they _require_ it. Line 84: Why are self connections not permitted? A summary of the motivation for these rules should be added. Line 99-100: - What is the relevancy of these references? - Is there a section of the book that is of interest? - Presumably the alternative to teleoperation is embedded control? This paragraph says both you're not reliant on physical sensors, but also you instantly connect incoming stimuli and the robot. Do you mean incoming stimuli as in user keypresses? - Why would reliance on physical sensors vastly limit the fluidity of information exchange during the presence of ongoing input streams? Please rework for clarity. Line 103: Should set timers or triggers in the code instead of involving a human for better reproduce ability. Fig 1: Vector is an adorable robot. Line 117-118: There are just the two peaks, correct? highest -> higher, lowest -> lower Line 116: What's the motivation for using bimodal activations and the specific offset between the two Gaussians? Table 2: Remove and include parameters in Fig 2 caption. Table 3: Remove, text description is sufficient, table isn't adding anything. Line 171: Learning and recall -> Learning and recall phases Line 189: I believe 'elicited' is the wrong word, 'the elicited stimuli' -> 'the stimuli' Line 201: How were the learning rates chosen? Table 4: A small figure showing the profile with these parameters in the caption would be more useful to the reader. Table 5: Same comment. Line 291: I would move this first paragraph to the Learning / Recall paradigm discussion to help the reader frame what the actual experiments being run are while reading through methods. Line 342: This suggests something else would determine the activity aside from connection weights, what would that be? 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