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PONE-D-19-28236 Respiratory regulation of subglottic pressure for phonation of pitch jumps – a real-time MRI study PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Traser, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please carefully answer to the issues raised and especially to the major issues raised by revier 1 and 3 (e.g. statistics, readability of manuscript, data ised in previous study, ...) We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Jan 16 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The PLOS ONE style templates can be found at http://www.journals.plos.org/plosone/s/file?id=wjVg/PLOSOne_formatting_sample_main_body.pdf and http://www.journals.plos.org/plosone/s/file?id=ba62/PLOSOne_formatting_sample_title_authors_affiliations.pdf Additional Editor Comments (if provided): After reading the work myself, I recommend to please especially respond to the issues raised on statistics, readability and previous study. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: No ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The study is an analysis of respiratory function during the phonation of pitch jumps using real time magnetic resonance imaging. Professional singers sang sequences of notes from low through high back to low in one imaging run and the reverse pattern in another run. Interest was primary in the transition between pitches. Both were repeated for different angles of image acquisition that were useful for measuring different anatomical structures. Images were used to measure distances between anatomical landmarks within the lungs as a proxy for lung volume and to understand the separate contributions of various respiratory muscles to controlling subglottal pressure for sound production. This study has the potential to provide information on a muscular system that has been understudied. However, while I find the experimental methodology to be sound, I have serious concerns about the statistical analysis. Major concerns 1) The authors refer to a pilot experiment that has previously been published using a similar technique on an overlapping sample of participants. It is important that the introduction clearly inform the readers on the difference between these two studies and the degree to which the present study is a novel extension versus a replication of previous findings. Though replications are very valuable I am concerned about the fact that the same participants were used in both experiments and that the authors may have sliced their data too thinly. 2) From visual inspection of the data the authors have decided to analyze the maximum change in distance between landmarks for some conditions (figure 8) or the mean change is distance between landmarks in others (figure 9). Since this choice was made post-hoc the authors have implicitly performed all pairwise tests within both measures, and should correct for them. Whereas present they appear not to perform any corrections for multiple tests. All analyses for both of these figures should be corrected for the ~40 separate tests that the authors have conducted (more if they have also visually inspected other possible measures such as the minimum distance). Stats for all of these tests should also be reported explicitly in a table. 3) Throughout the results section the authors describe the findings in terms of contrasts (in such a condition X measure Y was lower than in condition Z). However, they report statistical tests that appear to be omnibus anovas, which do not permit this interpretation. Please provide more careful interpretations of the statistics that are report or choose statistical tests that are more closely aligned with the inferences that interest the authors. 4) The authors should also report how they have handled non-independence in their data. Each task contained multiple pitch jumps of the same type, and it would be inappropriate to treat these replicate jumps as independent when they come from the same singer. It would be appropriate to use statistical methodology that can cope with this, such as linear mixed models, or to simply average across replicate jumps. From the very large degrees of freedom reported for the omnibus anovas, I suspect that this was not done. Even so I am confused by how large the degrees of freedom is here and would appreciate some clarification of what went into this analysis. 5) Please provide the underlying data as per plos1 policy. Currently, only a subset of the data are provided and only for one participant. It would be most appropriate to include the raw MRI images organized in some sensible directory tree as well as all derived data. Minor concerns abs) There should be no line breaks in the abstract abs) References to theory should come early in the abstract not late intr) The biomechanical review at the beginning of the introduction would benefit from an explanatory figure for non-specialists l53) the previous ultrasound study should be described in more detail, as with the pilot study l93) "permanent" may not be the correct word l118) please report this phoneme in IPA format l153) extra period l163) what where the instructions for the out of scanner recordings? Should we be concerned about gross differences in SPL or Psub if singers were directing themselves towards a person or microphone that was farther away in the out of scanner test versus a microphone that is nearby in the scanner as well as the sense of being alone that one has in that context? l199) remove the % sign from the equation l217) Something doesn't seem right in the denominator. Should you really be dividing by a larger number as you step through frames? l226) if the threshold was p = 0.05 then do not report p < 0.01 in figures. P-values are never a measure of effect magnitude. The same applies to subsequent figures. Fig4) remove interpolation between points as you probably don't mean to imply that there are smooth transitions as depicted l252) correct several typos in this section Figs 6 & 7) The means in these figures are not interpretable without error bars. Figure 9) l313) why have the authors switched from reporting effect sizes in eta squared to cohen's d? Is this intentional or a typographical error? Also, these effect sizes appear larger than I would expect for non-significant effects with the degrees of freedom report here. Please double check these values. l243) adaption is not an english word, please revise here and throughout the discussion. l343) remove extra space l408) remove the (= note) notation here and throughout l449) please clarify what you mean by rotatable MRI device l472) please remove the // notation and provide full sentences Reviewer #2: This is a very interesting and well-conducted study. I have only minor comments. 1. Line 32-33, and Line 337. "elevated" and "reduced" need to be referenced to some baseline. Elevated and reduced compared to what? 2. Line 37. "rip cage" should be "rib cage". 3. Line 38. "Diaphragm elevation primarily generated the force to increase subglottic pressure", but the diaphragm is an inspiratory muscle, and its elevation does not generate the force, rather, it is probably abdominal muscles that generate the force and elevate the diaphragm. 4. Line 40. "underlines" should be "underline". 5. Lines 84-96. I think the hypotheses could be highlighted more clearly, perhaps using a list format rather than a paragraph format. They should also be brought back to mind in the Results section. 6. Line 102. I'm not sure it is a valid assumption that professional singers would be "less distracted by the noise". 7. Lines 106-107. There is no explanation of how the VC and FEV1 measures were obtained. The VC measures in Table 1 are quite large - is it accurate? 8. Line 113. The pilot study has a very similar title. How is it different from the present study, beyond the addition of 2 subjects? 9. Line 119. "with no pitch repetitions". What does this mean? 10. Line 123 and Lines 127-135. Is the method employed here rtMRI or is it truly real time MRI, since the notes are held for so long? 11. Line 139 and Line 140. "coupola" should be "cupola". 12. Line 150. "detection of glottal opening (at 3/7)". What is "(at 3/7)" mean? 13. Lines 152-153. "estimated for each task ... from a steady state portion of each pitch." I found this sentence a bit awkward. There is an additional period "." at the end. 14. Line 170. "Rothenberg mask". It's not clear to me how this was used. 15. Line 202. "EGG-MRI signal". What does this mean? 16. Lines 235-246. It's not clear where the degrees of freedom of "391" and "69" are coming from in the statistical analyses. Also, Line 241 has "614,43" which should be "614.43". 17. Line 249. "right side = task." Should be "right side = task 2." 18. Line 253. This sentence is a bit awkward. 19. Line 255. "distances.. These outliners" should be "distances. These outliers". 20. Line 261. "correlating spectrograph" should be "corresponding spectrogram". 21. Figure 7. Image resolution is poor. 22. Figures 8 and 9. These are multiple comparisons showing statistically significant differences between measures, but I don't believe any kind of correction (e.g. Bonferroni correction) was used. Some of the significant differences should probably be considered Type I errors. The x-labels are not consistent in both figures. 23. Line 380, Line 382, Line 394, and line 468. "adaptions" should be "adaptations". 24. Line 440. "singiner" should be "singers". 25. Line 441. "systematical" should be "systematic". 26. Lines 442-444. I don't understand what this sentence is trying to say. 27. Lines 445-446. I don't understand what this sentence is trying to say. 28. Line 471. "interindividually" I think should be deleted. 29. Line 472. "sex/fach/genre." What is "fach"? 30. Line 477. "patient" should be "patients". 31. I think could be made more clear at relevant places throughout the manuscript and in Figure 10, what "early" and "late" mean in this paper, i.e. relative to Figure 1. Reviewer #3: The purpose of this study is to describe differences in kinematic movements related to respiratory physiology as singers produce sustained-pitch notes and rapidly change these notes to a higher or lower octave (termed a pitch jump). Measures of respiratory kinematics were obtained from dynamic magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) data at 3 frames per second. Measures were primarily derived from the position of the diaphragm relative to the apex of the lung as the singers dynamically changed pitch in an upward or downward direction. Recordings from an acoustic microphone and electroglottograph were also made during the MRI scans. In a separate session in a sound treated room, the singers produced p-vowel syllables at similar pitches as the MRI session to measure intraoral pressure and estimate the subglottal pressure produced during the sustained notes. The main result appears to be the finding that the diaphragm position (particularly in the posterior region) monotonically decreases during the sustained notes and octave jumps, except for the jump from the highest octave to the middle octave. In that context, the diaphragm temporarily reverses direction (as if during inspiration) and then continues to elevate as usual. I found the paper to be very challenging to read. The data appear to be collected with appropriate methodologies; however, the motivation, analysis, and presentation of the results need significant improvement. TITLE I do not believe that the methodology addresses the study of respiratory regulation of subglottal pressure because these two measures were estimated in separate sessions. And the data presented by the investigators is on respiratory kinematics given octave pitch jumps. ABSTRACT "During sustained phonation, singers´ diaphragms were elevated and the rip cage diameter was reduced." This sentence appears to state the diaphragm was eleveated throughout the sustained phonation. What I believe the authors mean is that the diaphragm continues to elevate in a monotonic manner throughout the sustained phonation. This particular sentence illustrates how the rest of the paper reads and is in need of improvement so the descriptions of data and results are clear. "rip cage" should be changed to "rib cage" throughout. "The magnitude of the movement correlated with the amount of subglottic pressure difference." What is the evidence supporting this statement? I did not see any correlation statistic between diaphragm kinematics and subglottal pressure. Fig. 7 simply displays these variables but I do not see any reference to this highlighted result in the manuscript. INTRODUCTION "To the author’s knowledge only one attempt has been made using an imaging technique (ultrasound), but this study was limited by the low penetration depth of ultrasound into lung tissue (15)." Even though the cited study had limitations, if it is the only other study investigating parameters of interest, then please much more should be discussed about this reference to put the current work in context. What did the prior work find and how does that lead into the current work? "In a pilot study (22), the movements of the breathing apparatus of 6 professional singers during sustained phonation with a constant ƒo and SPL were analyzed. Here, a very sophisticated movement pattern was observed, which indicated a differentiated control of different parts of the DPH and RC." Please describe more details about the pilot study. These types of statements are good for the introduction but require much more explanation. And please define what is meant by "sophisticated movement pattern." The motivation behind the study appears to be in the following paragraph: "Singing is seldom reduced to phonation of a single pitch but characterized by pitch jumps of different magnitude and direction. How different parts of the breathing system move with sudden pitch changes, has not previously been investigated. Thus, the aim of this study was to evaluate the movements of the breathing apparatus during phonation of pitch jumps." However, the motivation that no one else has studied the phenomenon is not adequate. Why do the authors think this study is needed? How can one use the results? The hypotheses are inadequate. The current hypotheses are too generic with statements like "respiratory movements differ" and "regulation of pitch jumps would not affect all parts of the respiratory system equally." Please be more specific as to which direction changes are expected and why. METHODS "At the time of the recording, none of the participants complained of any vocal symptoms or suffered from pulmonary disease (which was confirmed by the VC and FEV1 values in table 1)." This statement mentions subject status at the time of recording. In addition, did any subject have a history of vocal complaints, voice disorders, or respiratory pathologies? Section 2.5 MR Image Analysis This section on MRI analysis is an important one that defines the primary respiratory kinematic measures of the study. More explanation and detail are necessary than the two sentences currently in this section. Were points on Figure 2 marked manually or with a computer algorithm? If manually, please describe the method used. Who did the ratings? What was their expertise? How many raters marked the images? Multiple raters should be used so measures of reliability can be reported. If algorithmic, please describe the algorithm. The term "elevation" of the diaphragm is referred to in the Abstract and Discussion. Please explicitly define how diaphragm elevation was computed. For example, is the DPHhighestP distance what the authors use to define elevation or other measure(s)? Also, "rib cage diameter" is referred to often. Is the rib cage diameter estimated using the apD_Thorax measure or other? In my opinion, there are too many abbreviations. Please consider spelling out all terms for clarity for the reader. Please go through the manuscript and make sure terms are used consistently and spelled correctly. For example, new abbreviations were used that were not defined in Methods (DPHmed). Please put scale bars and orientation directions (anterior, superior, etc.) on Figure 2 and 3. "EGG-MRI signal": This signal is undefined. I was initially confused by what this term referred to. Do the authors just mean the EGG signal (recorded during MRI data collection)? Section 2.5.2 There is an equivalence stated: "t_-4to+4 = m_1 - m_8". This is not an equivalence. Time does not equal distance. And the notation is very loose with a dash (minus sign?) between m_1 and m_8 and "to" between -4 and +4. I highly recommend using the time notation defined (t_n) as x-axis labels in graphs in Fig 6 and 10 so it is clear when jump happens (t0). m1 to m8 are the mean gradients themselves that should be labeled on the y-axes. Fig 7 is labeled correctly. Anorm is not used again in the manuscript. Is Anorm the y-axis in Fig 7? Section 2.6 As mentioned in the abstract comments, the statement in the abstract, ""The magnitude of the movement correlated with the amount of subglottic pressure difference," is not supported in the current manuscript. The statistical analysis section does not mention a correlation between respiratory kinematics and subglottal pressure. Please address. Fig 4 subglottal pressure plots: please correct the units on the y-axis to cm H2O. Results In general, while it is appreciated that figure captions include a statement of the result, please revise all caption to better describe/define what each graph, etc., is showing. Section 3.2.1 Fig 6 is another example of wording that needs to be addressed. The text mention tjump, but there is not tjump in Fig 6. As mentioned above, the horizontal axis of Fig 4 should defined in terms of t_n (time). Fig 6 and 7 display mean curves. Please add standard deviation or confidence intervals to provide the reader with an idea of variance across subjects. Fig 8: Graph needs to be corrected for correct spelling of term apDthorax. The inconsistencies of terms across the manuscript make it very challenging to understand the study. Where is the DPHhighestP measure here? DPHmed here is not defined in Methods. Fig 10: Please define "high down," "low down," "high up," and "low up" that is in the legend. These terms are not used anywhere else in the manuscript. Please only use terms in the Results section that have already been defined earlier in the manuscript. "adaption" -> "adaptation"? ********** 6. 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PONE-D-19-28236R1 Respiratory kinematics and regulation of subglottic pressure for phonation of pitch jumps – a real-time MRI study PLOS ONE Dear Dr Traser, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by March 21. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
Please note while forming your response, if your article is accepted, you may have the opportunity to make the peer review history publicly available. The record will include editor decision letters (with reviews) and your responses to reviewer comments. If eligible, we will contact you to opt in or out. We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Michael Döllinger, Ph.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE Journal Requirements: Additional Editor Comments (if provided): After reading the manuscrupt myself, I agree that the quality of the manuscript has been improved. Also the Topic and study is of hoigh interest. However, I share the concerns raised by the Reviewers that have to be addressed before acceptance, especially: improve english, explain and justify performed statistics, justify why the authors switch between max and mean values. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors have made considerable revisions and clarifications to the original manuscript. However, while I continue to find the premise, rationale, and data presented in the manuscript to be a valuable contribution to the field my concerns about the validity of the statistical analysis and the clarity of presentation in the manuscript have not been adequately addressed. I therefore cannot recommend this manuscript for publication in its present form. Major concerns 1) The author's have not suitably addressed my previous concern that they sometimes analyse maximum measurements and sometimes mean measurements. Section 2.6 attempts to justify this practice, but the meaning of this section is not clear. A direct reading of this section suggests to me that the authors tested for differences between mean and maximum measurements, which would not be a very meaningful thing to do. I suspect that what they have done is to test which measurement gave the largest effects, but this practice is circular and will lead analyses to overestimate effects throughout the paper. The authors need to either provide an a-priori justification for their choices (which it is too late to do for these data), or report all tests and correct appropriately. 2) It is not clear to me that including subject (singer) as a covariate in the ANOVA's is sufficient to solve the problem of non-independence. Repeated measures ANOVA already removes variance between participants to deal with the fact that participants contribute data to each cell of the design. This does not address the problem that in some of the analyses reported, singers contribute multiple data points to the same cell of the design, which as far as I can tell remains a problem in the present manuscript. It should also be point out that the covariate of gender is redundant with the covariate of singer since any variation due to gender will already be accounted for. If it were very important to the authors, singer could be nested with gender do address that question, but I suspect that it would just be a digression. 3) In Section 3.2.1 All measurements are combined in a single test. This may not be the most meaningful way of testing hypothesis A. A value that is smaller than typical for one distance measure may be larger than typical for another. Likewise the various movement locations will have different ranges of values, which I suspect has left a heteroscedasticity problem. The authors should scale the movement directions if they are being combined. Perhaps some kind of multivariate analysis would be more appropriate. A simpler way of testing this hypothesis would be to analyse lung volume (as estimate by the area within the lung in 2d images). 4) The addition of the derived data sheets to the submission is appreciated. However, the authors should also consider including the raw MRI data. If including the raw audio data would not be consistent with protecting the privacy of participant's then by all means do not include it. Why not provide derived measures from the audio recordings (f0, SPL, etc.) which would then make the raw MRI data useable? I hope that the authors will consider this approach moving forward, as these data would be a useful asset to the field. 5) Despite many recommendations from all reviewers to improve the writing of the manuscript, there are still a large number of grammatical and spelling errors. In many cases this leads to low intelligibility. Minor Concerns L111 - hypothese L125 - hypothized L125-126 - replace with respectively with i.e. L282 - pluralise cents, here and throughout L309 - outliers L355 - Tukey's-HSD, here and throughout Many other typographical errors throughout Reviewer #2: The authors have done a good job addressing my comments. In spite of an acknowledgement for help from a native speaker, there are many grammatical mistakes throughout the revised text, and these will need to be corrected. I would recommend the authors to consider referring to their MRI method as "dynamic MRI" rather than "real-time MRI", especially in the title, because "real-time MRI" sounds like rtMRI, which this study does not employ. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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Respiratory kinematics and the regulation of subglottic pressure for phonation of pitch jumps – a dynamic MRI study PONE-D-19-28236R2 Dear Dr. Traser, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE's publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 04 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the "Submissions Needing Revision" folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. Guidelines for resubmitting your figure files are available below the reviewer comments at the end of this letter. If applicable, we recommend that you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io to enhance the reproducibility of your results. Protocols.io assigns your protocol its own identifier (DOI) so that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. With kind regards, Michelle Ciucci, Ph.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments: It appears that reviewer 1 takes a hard line on assumptions for statistical testing using analysis of variance. The authors did not do tests to ensure that the data meet the assumptions for ANOVA. As such, we don't know if the data are normally distributed or if the variances are equal. ANOVA is pretty robust to violations of these assumptions. I think the best course of action is for the authors simply run these tests (Shapiro-Wilk for normal distribution and Levene's test for equal variance). Then, there are some decisions to make. If they reveal normal distribution and equal variance, then report that. If they do not, there are ways to transform the data. My guess is that if the authors do this and repeat the ANOVA, they will likely have the same results, or perhaps even more robust results. The alternative is to just state that the data failed these tests but ANOVA is pretty robust against these. The authors are welcome to contact me with any questions. Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. 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PONE-D-19-28236R3 Respiratory kinematics and the regulation of subglottic pressure for phonation of pitch jumps – a dynamic MRI study PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Traser, Thank you for your patience as we handled transitioning editors and such. An expert in both signing and physiology has reviewed this manuscript and they have some minor suggestions. The system does not let me accept a manuscript and still require minor changes. So, first CONGRATULATIONS. Once you make these minor changes, please submit and I will accept for publication immediately without the need for re-review. Below is format letter. Thank you again for your persistence. This is an important study. Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jan 08 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #4: No ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #4: This study uses novel methodology to simultaneously measure movement of multiple structures in the respiratory apparatus relative to pitch jumps during phonation in trained singers. The work should be commended for providing substantial insight into our understanding of how individual components of the respiratory subsystem of phonation contribute to fine biomechanical control and adaptation of voice production. All major limitations of this study have been addressed in previous reviews. Some minor limitations remain, and are listed below: Abstract: No comments Introduction: 1. Lines 118-120 The sentence, "As during sustained phonation the movement range..." is unclear, perhaps because of the complex dependent clause early in the sentence. For ease of reading, the authors might consider the following re-write: "in our pilot study [18], the movement range of the posterior DPH was twice as large as the anterior DPH during sustained phonation. Thus, we additionally hypothesized that there would be differences in psub-adaptive movements of the anterior compared to posterior DPH during pitch jumps.” 2. "Pitch jumps" and "octave jumps" are used interchangeably throughout the manuscript. Based on Figure 2, all pitch jumps are octave jumps. The authors should choose either "pitch jumps" or "octave jumps" and use this throughout the manuscript. (ie, Table 1) Methods 1. The authors do not state whether or not subjects intentionally maintained phonation in a given register (ie falsetto, modal, mixed). Vocal register is still not terribly well understood making discussion challenging, however, a comment on whether register cracks or breaks occurred, whether subjects intentionally maintained a “falsetto” register (which would likely change findings) or completed tasks as they would for performance, or some other mention of the subjects voice quality would facilitate repeatability and allow for a more-nuanced interpretation of findings. 2. Line 152: In table 2, subjects 2 and 3 are listed as belonging to Bunch/Chapman taxonomy "3.15b1." However, "3.15" does not exist in the taxonomy. Perhaps the authors meant "3.1b," indicating National/Big City Opera singers singing minor roles? 3. Line 161: The shape of the vocal tract will influence glottic configuration and subglottal pressure adaptation. For example, modifications to the vowel /a:/ are often implemented by classically trained singers to facilitate phonation in certain pitch ranges. The authors may wish to comment on whether they feel that subtle shifts in vowel (vocal tract) shape (both within and among subjects) might have influenced the measures of interest in the current study. This would be an appropriate addition to the discussion section. 4. Line 174: The authors should comment on the amount of time required for subjects to complete the pitch jumps. If this time was less than 1 second, it is possible that changes in DPH position occurred between samples taken from MRI (ie, might not be detected at 3fps). This would be a helpful addition to the discussion section 5. Lines 210-217: Measurement of Psub is taken during a task that is different from that performed during MRI. Because the task was not just different in terms of time (ie Psub was not measured during MRI) but also the task itself was different (/pa/ or /pi/ vs /a/), there may have been associated differences in MRI measures of interest. The authors should discuss this when interpreting any results that refer to Psub. In the discussion section. 6. Lines 210-217: Additionally, it is unclear when the /p/ portion of the /p/ occlusion task was performed. (ie, before, during or after the subject reached the target pitch jump?) 7. Line 281: In the sentence, "...are possibly influences differently..." it appears that "influences is supposed to be in past tense (ie, "...possibly influenced differently...") 8. Line 291: "Turkey's HSD" should be "Tukey's HSD" Results: No Comments Discussion: 1. The authors may wish to discuss additional ways in which Psub might suddenly change (rather than inspiratory diaphragmatic movement). Ie, is there a way that this might be performed maladaptively at the level of the glottis (ie vocal fold tension) or in the vocal tract (pharyngeal constriction) that would be different between singers and normal controls? Pathological voices vs normal controls? 2. Lines 565-583: When "statistic" is used as an adjective, it is typically altered to become “statistical” (ie, "statistical evaluation," as opposed to "statistic evaluation.") ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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