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PONE-D-20-13078 Revisiting discrete versus continuous models of human behavior: The case of absolute pitch PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Van Hedger, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Both reviewers thought that the manuscript could be made clearer and more concise in certain sections, though those sections differed depending on reviewer (R1: Introduction; R2: Results, Conclusion, and Abstract). In general, I agree that the manuscript could be more concise and focused. For example, it takes the reader until the middle of second paragraph before we learn what the study was about (AP). R2 also questioned one of the conclusions of the study ... that AP ability is a continuous rather than dichotomous or bimodal distribution. They point to the results of the Gaussian Mixture Modeling (Fig 5) that seem to show a bimodal distribution of AP abilities, consistent with a dichotomy. Further suggestions that should be included in the revision:
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The PLOS ONE style templates can be found at https://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/file?id=wjVg/PLOSOne_formatting_sample_main_body.pdf and [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Van Hedger et al. studied pitch-labeling ability using an online assessment in a relatively large sample of participants. The study investigates to the ongoing (and long-lasting) discussion about whether absolute pitch (AP) is an all-or-nothing phenomenon or a continuously distributed ability. While the study makes an important contribution to this interesting and controversial topic, the manuscript makes certain claims that do not straightforwardly follow from the data. Furthermore, if the manuscript provided some clarifications and practical recommendations, it would appeal to a broader research community, including researchers studying the genetics or neuroscience of AP. I would recommend a revision of the manuscript addressing the following points (and please provide line numbers to make it easier to reference parts of the manuscript): Major points: - Bimodal Distribution: The study demonstrates that participants with intermediate pitch-labeling ability are more similar to participants with high levels than to participants with low levels of pitch-labeling ability. The authors take this as evidence that a “dichotomous” view of AP is not warranted (see below for a comment regarding terminology). However, the Gaussian Mixture Modeling (GMM) shows a clearly bimodal distribution suggesting a dichotomy. As the authors note in the Discussion, this dichotomy exists between chance-level performers and above chance-level performers. So, to claim that AP is a continuously distributed ability is somewhat misleading as it only seems to be continuously distributed within the group of above-chance performers. Indeed, many of the most recent AP studies used exactly this criterion (above-chance performance) to differentiate groups of AP possessors and non-possessors (e.g., Brauchli et al., 2019; Leipold et al., 2019). Thus, this framing of the results (i.e. continuous distribution) does not follow from the data. - Introduction: The Introduction would benefit from restructuring and significant shortening of some parts: The authors could, for example, collapse paragraphs 1 to 4 into one or two paragraphs on AP as an example for discrete vs. continuous behavior, and collapse paragraphs 5 and 6 into one paragraph explaining experiential factors influencing AP. On the contrary, a preview on what the study actually did (i.e. investigating pitch-labeling using an online assessment, mixture modeling, etc.) is completely missing. Perhaps, the authors could add a full paragraph before the Methods section explaining what they did and why they did it. - Methods: The authors should provide the statistical analyses already in the methods and not only in the Results section (or at least summarize it). A clearer rationale for the group differentiation (genuine, pseudo, non) should be given, and it should be made clear that the cutoff scores are completely arbitrary (even though earlier studies also used similar, also completely arbitrary, cutoffs). To ensure comparability with previous studies, in addition to the composite score and the conservative score, the distribution of percentage correct (or absolute number of correct trials; i.e. accuracy) should be provided. This simple and intuitive measure has been employed in many AP studies to date and is easier to interpret than the other two measures. - Results: The authors should provide a clear rationale for the white/black-key analyses (including Figure 3). Is this only for the validation of the composite score? Minor points: - Terminology: It is my impression that the authors use “discrete”, “dichotomous”, “categorical”, “all-or-nothing”, and “present or absent” synonymously, and as an antonym to “continuously distributed”. Consistent and precise terminology would help understanding the arguments that the paper tries to make. Furthermore, I would recommend consistently using pitch-labeling ability and pitch-labeling test/task instead of AP ability/test as AP can also be assessed using other kinds of tests (production, Stroop-like, etc.). In the same vein, the mix of “pseudo” and “intermediate” is confusing. - Methods: When putting the sample size in context by comparing it to previous studies, the authors should also note that another study arguing for a dichotomy (Athos et al., 2007) had a much larger sample size. Why did the authors use tones with timbre and not sine tones, given the discussion about timbral cues in pitch labeling (“absolute piano”)? Please provide more details on the power analysis. Is this a post-hoc sensitivity analysis? Only for the GMM or other statistical analyses? - Results Provide the individual data points in Figures 2C and 2D instead of/or overlaying the barplots. The statement "One thing that becomes immediately clear is that performance was highly variable and continuously distributed [...] and challenging a strict dichotomy in AP performance (cf. Athos et al., 2007)" is not appropriate at the beginning of the results section. Although I agree that the pitch-labeling performance seems highly variable and continuously distributed, we cannot determine based on visual inspection of a scatterplot if this challenges a dichotomy of AP. Distribution plots (as in Figure 5) are much more informative in this regard. - Previous research on pitch-labeling ability The study misses references to previous large-scale investigations of pitch-labeling abilities in the context of neuroimaging studies with over 100 participants (Brauchli et al., 2019; Leipold et al., 2019; Wengenroth et al., 2014) that show a bimodal distribution of pitch-labeling abilities, consistent with the distribution shown in the manuscript. - Relative pitch (RP) musicians: The manuscript does not consider the role of highly-trained musicians using RP to identify pitches. Previous research has shown that musicians without AP perform better than non-musicians in pitch-labeling tasks (e.g., Brauchli et al., 2020). Other studies even designed specific pitch-labeling tasks to prevent musicians from using RP strategies (Wengenroth et al., 2014). Some RP musicians perform better than self-reported AP possessors (e.g., Leipold et al., 2019). What role might RP play in the distribution of pitch-labeling ability? - Conclusions: What does “test specific hypotheses that can at least hold the hope of rejecting explicit theories” mean? Instead of speaking of “bias […] that impedes progress”, please provide clear recommendations on how future investigations (especially those on the underlying mechanisms/explanations of AP) should proceed. Group studies with more liberal criteria to include intermediate performers? How to avoid arbitrary cutoff-scores to differentiate the groups? Self-report? Correlation analyses? References: Athos, E. A., Levinson, B., Kistler, A., Zemansky, J., Bostrom, A., Freimer, N. B., & Gitschier, J. (2007). Dichotomy and perceptual distortions in absolute pitch ability. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 104(37), 14795–14800. https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.0703868104 Brauchli, C., Leipold, S., & Jäncke, L. (2019). Univariate and multivariate analyses of functional networks in absolute pitch. NeuroImage, 189, 241–247. https://doi.org/10.1016/J.NEUROIMAGE.2019.01.021 Brauchli, C., Leipold, S., & Jäncke, L. (2020). Diminished large-scale functional brain networks in absolute pitch during the perception of naturalistic music and audiobooks. NeuroImage, 216, 116513. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.neuroimage.2019.116513 Leipold, S., Brauchli, C., Greber, M., & Jäncke, L. (2019). Absolute and relative pitch processing in the human brain: Neural and behavioral evidence. Brain Structure and Function, 224(5), 1723–1738. https://doi.org/10.1007/s00429-019-01872-2 Wengenroth, M., Blatow, M., Heinecke, A., Reinhardt, J., Stippich, C., Hofmann, E., & Schneider, P. (2014). Increased volume and function of right auditory cortex as a marker for absolute pitch. Cerebral Cortex, 24(5), 1127–1137. https://doi.org/10.1093/cercor/bhs391 Reviewer #2: General comments: This paper provides evidence of the large spread of absolute pitch abilities which contradicts the idea of dichotomy implying that people either have it or do not have it. It also investigates relationship between age of start of musical training and proportion of tonal language speakers and find that age of onset is similar for the two above-chance groups but earlier for those groups than for the around-chance-performing group. In contrast, they did not find a significant effect of proportion of tonal language speakers. This is acknowledged in the result section but not in the abstract and conclusion. Especially in the abstract where this effect is mentioned, this seems misleading and need to be clarified. Also, the findings in terms of effect of musical training or tonal language is lacking from the conclusion. The paper starts with a nice introduction that clearly communicates the background and motivation for the study. The paper includes a lot of statistical analysis which is nice, but the result section is far too long, and the main points are sometimes lost in all the details. I would suggest putting a lot of the details in a supplementary section to make the main story clearer. One idea is to go through the analysis using one measure (maybe put all but the most important statics in tables or supplementary materials) and then mention that the same conclusions are reached with the second measure and include the details of those results in the supplementary materials. Finally, the conclusion is also too long and does not provide answers to all research questions of the paper. Please change that. A general question is whether there is not an effect of number of years playing an instrument or having received music lessons? E.g., if somebody received music lessons from they were 5-6 years old, this seems likely to be less effective than if received lessons for 20 years and started when they were 5 years. Specific comments: P7: If the participants were not actively recruited, how did they know about the study? P8. What do you mean with ”triangle” tones. What is the reason for including these two types of tones? Is there a reason for including more than one type? When talking about the “smooth” tones, is it the first 9 harmonics including the F0. This is not clear. Also, is this the same for the triangle tones? Procedure: How long time did the experiment approximately take P9, paragraph1: Did you also do the analysis without the response time? Were the conclusions the same? The MAD seems like an interesting measure in itself and there must be a lot of variation in response time that is unrelated to AP performance abilities. Some people are probably just slower than others? E.g., in the group of chance performers how much did the RT vary. For this group, shorter response time is unlikely to be related to better ability. P11: Why did you pick the criteria of 81.3% for the gAP group? The fact that you have continuous distribution in scores for the gAP group suggest that not everybody in the group were very near ceiling and therefore there ought to be some variance. However, the range of scores for the pAP group is larger (11-39 notes as opposed to 39-48 notes) which leaves more room for within-group variation. P12: I suggest replacing “lower” performance with “worse” performance P14: Third paragraph: When summing up the findings you ought to mention that there does not seem to be a significant effect of tonal language across groups. Or at least include this in a brief summary at the end of the previous paragraph. It seems that you use the Baysian analysis to verify the similarity of the age and proportion of tonal language speakers, however, this purpose is not very clear. Please condense and clarify. Why is comparison of pAP and nAP considered an alternative hypothesis? Please clarify. Don’t these results indicate that the tonal language is not widely different between groups and isn’t this similar to what you can conclude from the above analysis? Fig1: Are these the waveform of the complex tones or for a harmonic. Are these schematics or are they actual waveforms? Fig2: Does the “accuracy” on the x-axis of 2A refer to the proportion of correction identified? This is not clear. It seems inconsistent to here use proportions whereas percentages are used when describing the grouping in the result section. what “proportion” does on the y-axis refer to. I presume it is the accuracy, please clarify. Also, labels and especially legends could be improved by making them larger. It might be worth specifying what the abbreviation are in the figure text for people who just want to skim the paper. p. 25-26: Shorten the conclusion but include conclusions to all research questions. Skip the lines before “The present study … ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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Revisiting discrete versus continuous models of human behavior: The case of absolute pitch PONE-D-20-13078R1 Dear Dr. Van Hedger, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. 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(2019) Univariate and multivariate analyses of functional networks in absolute pitch. Neuroimage, 189, 241–247. Leipold, S., Greber, M., Sele, S., & Jäncke, L. (2019) Neural patterns reveal single-trial information on absolute pitch and relative pitch perception. Neuroimage, 200, 132–141. Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: - The authors did a great job revising their manuscript. I especially liked how they clarified their interpretation of the data. All of my previous points were properly addressed, and responses were given in great detail, thank you. This paper represents an important contribution to the field of absolute pitch-related research. I recommend publication of the manuscript. Please correct the details below though. - Line 409: Figure[s] 5A is referenced, however, this figure shows the histogram using the composite score - Line 469: The reference to the figure should read Figure 5D. Relatedly, Figure 5B, C, E, and F are not referenced or discussed in the main text of the manuscript (maybe it is an old version of the figure?). - Line 632: The last author’s name in Brauchli et al. (Line 732 in the references) and Leipold et al. (Line 783 in the references) is Jäncke, and not Lutz. - Line 861: Similarly, the last author of Wengenroth et al., Peter Schneider is not included in the reference. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). 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