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PONE-D-20-10910 Developmental differences in children’s and adults’ use of geometric information in map-reading tasks PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Otálora, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jul 23 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The specific investigation of what children of different ages encode and scale in a mapping task sheds new light on the development of these abilities. The reviewers offer very specific and helpful comments, and you should address all of their concerns in your response. In general, both call for substantially more detail regarding the methods. I agree with these suggestions, and at the same time, I'd like to consider making clearer how the methods you are using. I now turn some specific concerns from my own reading of the manuscript: a) The writing is generally quite good throughout. There are a few situations, however, in which I thought a phrase could be said more clearly or with fewer words Line 164: "...were variables affecting children' performance". Perhaps simply say, "The absolute size and symmetry of the configuration affect children's performance." or "The variables of interest were absolute size and symmetry." Line 165, "By address the effect of some variables..." Say specifically which variables. Line 176, "to call the quantity", perhaps "It is more precise to label this quantity as a vector" Line 281, Insert "in" before "representing" Lines 410-413: Could this sentence be stated more succinctly? Line 457-458, "These children failed to reach a significant difference", change to something like, "The results did not differ from chance in the 3 longest arrays." LIne 478, "From early ages" could simply be "young children" b) I was confused by both the placement and organization of the tables. I was not sure why the Table is included in the text but the figures are not. Please follow PLOS1 guidelines for the placement of tables and figures. In addition, the figures are too small and quite hard to read at times. The entrees in the legends are very small, and readers will have difficulty mapping the legend entrees to the lines in the graph. c) I found it somewhat difficult to interpret the age differences between the children and adults. You refer several times to developments happening between the ages of 8 and adulthood. However, because you have no age groups between this range, it seems very non-specific. I know you already have several age groups, and testing beyond age 8 was not your focus. Could you say simply, "Beyond age 8" or something like that to make it simpler? d) Your interpretation of the findings in the Discussion is interesting, but there is a great deal of speculation and relatively little that is directly tied to the results. I wondered if you could focus more on what the results say and perhaps less on speculative interpretations. Of course, some speculation is justified if it is marked as such e) I believe there are several highly relevant publications by Moira Dillon that could enhance your literature review and perhaps provide a more specific motivation for the work., f) Finally, let me address one comment from Reviewer 1. She/he wondered whether the paper makes a significant contribution to the literature. I note that the magnitude of the contribution is explicitly not a criteria for this journal, so you do not have to address that comment directly. However, I do think that this reviewer's concern reflects an aspect of the manuscript that you should address: Sometimes the relation between the research questions and the methods is not clear. You could be more explicit as to why you included a specific methodological manipulation in terms of the questions that you are asking. Overall, I think this paper has potential and encourage you to complete the necessary revisions. Journal requirements: When submitting your revision, we need you to address these additional requirements. 1. Please ensure that your manuscript meets PLOS ONE's style requirements, including those for file naming. 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Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The questions addressed in the manuscript concern developmental changes in the use of geometric information on mapping tasks. The introduction provides a comprehensive overview of relevant work, pointing out gaps in the current understanding of geometric mapping in children. In particular, the authors indicate that it is not clear how the three key geometric dimensions (distance, angle, and orientation) are weighted by children in mapping tasks and whether certain dimensions are more challenging than others (e.g., whether preserving angles in mapping is harder than scaling distance). The experimental method includes a task, in which participants must find a location in a larger space corresponding to the target location on a smaller picture; the task can be solved by taking into account all three types of geometric information. While I see multiple strengths in the paper (interesting problem area, insightful literature analysis, clever experimental task, in-depth analysis), I’m not sure it represents a substantial advancement in current knowledge. In particular, I don’t think it fills the identified gaps in the literature, in particular, the issues of relative weighting and relative difficulty of different types of geometric information. There are a lot of specific findings reported, but the main take-away message is that children, even as young as 4 y. o., have some ability to use geometric cues in mapping and that this ability undergoes substantial development. The multiple nuanced findings don’t seem to add up to a general picture beyond what has been already established. In addition to this concern, I have several further comments listed below. 1. I was curious as two why the authors chose two variables – configuration type and relative vector length – to examine the conditions that affect children’s performance on their task. The description of these two variables was very clear but there was no relevant theoretical rationale or predictions. This made it harder to interpret many of the findings. For example, distance analysis showed “significant differences between Linear and Right configurations only for Length 2, with more errors in the linear configuration.” It is hard to say if it is a meaningful finding – whether it is consistent with the authors’ expectations and, therefore, how it should be interpreted. 2. Related to (1), it is not clear why the authors reported the results of their pair-wise analysis as planned comparisons. Typically, planned comparisons are theoretically based, but I don’t think the authors predicted, for example, that the difference between linear and right configurations will be found only for Length 2. Unless there is a strong rationale for the use of planned comparisons throughout Results, I think the analyses should be re-run, controlling for the overall error in multiple comparisons. This may turn some of the significant findings into non-significant. 3. In my opinion, it was unfortunate that the distance analysis was limited to two configurations: Linear and Right triangle. I understand that the other two configurations did not include all 4 lengths, but perhaps the authors could compare children’s accuracy with the two overlapping lengths that were used across all four configurations. This could show whether the accuracy (and, by inference, difficulty) of distance scaling varies depending on the need to preserve angular information. In the current version, the two configurations represented “prototypical” angles: 90 and 180 degrees (linear array). With these two configurations, no differences were found in distance scaling. But the findings could be different if children had to scale distance while preserving a less prototypical angle (e.g., 135 degrees). It would be interesting to see if the need to preserve this angular information made scaling more challenging and whether this varied with age. 4. One of the interesting findings is that accuracy of distance scaling increased substantially between 8 and 20 years of age. The authors pointed out that this finding is different from prior reports, and that the difference could be due to the fact that prior studies involved distance scaling in the enclosed space, whereas the current study required coding distances between objects. I would like to see a more extensive discussion of this finding. One possible explanation could be the difficulty of distance scaling based on part/part vs. part/whole relations. Many of the prior studies allowed children to code the target location relative to the frame, which could be done by considering a part/whole relation (e.g., a distance between the edge of the box and the target location relative to the length of the whole box). In the present study, all configurations except for the linear one required considering a different type of relation – part/part (i.e., reference vector/reconstructed vector). This is, of course, only one possible explanation and the authors might offer other interpretations. 5. The discussion of 4-y.o. performance on p. 24 is somewhat confusing because of the terminology used. The authors suggest that the youngest children may be utilizing relative distance coding (unlike other age groups). All the age groups must be utilizing some sort of relative distance coding on a mapping task. The phenomenon discussed by the author with respect to 4-y.o. sounds similar to “categorical distance coding” whereby distances are coded in terms of halves and quarters rather than a more fine-grained coding. Reviewer #2: This is a clear manuscript which is well written. The authors investigated the map reading abilities of young children and adults in various conditions which involved children (and adults) extrapolating information they had seen on a map to a real world space that it represented. The tasks involved placing one object in a space in relation to two other (already present) objects. The authors measured participants’ performance in terms of distance accuracy and angular accuracy. The results show an age related improvement in the ability to perform the tasks accurately. The introduction is clear and provides an appropriate background for the study. The procedure and method are clear but need a little more explanation and justification. The children were compared to adults, but the adults were psychology students and presumably had a higher mean IQ than the mean of the child age groups. This may not matter, but a more representative sample of adults would have been better. Did any of the adults have special experience with maps (e.g. from cartography classes, orienteering, map making, or map training, etc.)? Had the children had any map reading or map using classes? The design of the materials is clear, and was appropriate for the tasks in the experiment. [But more emphasis might be given in the discussion to point out these were very denuded maps, and any findings might not transfer to even slightly more sophisticated maps or spatial representations.] The procedure needs a lot more detail. Please include a plan of where the experimenter and the participant were when they looked at the map on the table, and where the two sheep were in relation to the participant. Presumably the participants could not see the sheep on the ground at the same time as they were looking at the map (so the task involved memory)? The authors showed the participants the sheep on the ground and then showed the participants the map. How was this done? By looking at the map, then looking at the sheep on the ground, then looking at the map again?? How many times were participants allowed to look between the ground and the map, and for how long? Or could participants not see the ground at all while they were looking for up to 5 seconds at the map? What was the orientation of the map on the table in relation to the sheep on the ground (i.e. was the map aligned with the space?). If the map was aligned with the space the participants were, in effect, having to mentally rotate the information on the map to match the space. If the map was aligned with the space but the participants were looking at it ‘upside down’ mental rotaton might also be involved. This points are not clear in the procedure and this is why it is essential to include a plan of the space/participants/table and the orientation of the map. There is a memory component – the participants did not have the map with them so they had to remember where the X was on the map when they turned to the space. There might also have been a metacognitive component (or several of these) – for example, did the adults spend longer looking at the map than did the children – assuming the adults knew they had to encode an angle or a distance and gave themselves time to this. In other words did the older children and adults look for the full 5 seconds and the younger children look for less time? Children may have thought they could encode the angle/distance in a glance. Did time looking at the map vary with the ‘difficulty’ of the task? Why was a maximum of 5 seconds chosen for the time looking at the map? Might this have put the younger participants at a disadvantage? There might have been a strategy component – how did participants turn from the map table? – did some even walk round the map table to get to the sheep? Or were they not allowed to? How did the researcher ‘turn around the child’ (p12) The participants did 12 trials. Were these in a different random order for EACH participant (this is not clear on p12)? If the maps were in the same random order for all participants how might practice effects have influenced the results. Participants received feedback for the two practice, but no feedback after that – I assume that without some feedback it was hard to keep the children, especially the 4 year olds, motivated to go on doing the task. I assume some of the younger children wanted to place the lion where they wanted to, rather than follow the instructions to place the lion like on the map. How were these sort of issues dealt with? The results are clearly expressed. The discussion is a summary of the results. But the discussion introduces new analyses (p24). All data and analyses should be in the results section. The rest of the discussion is a good summary of the present results. But the discussion needs to take into account other factors (some mentioned above) that might have effected participants’ performance. Factors that can be dismissed with good reasons, or factors that could have affected all ages groups equally should be considered. Factors like greater memory load once the mapswas covered and which might have affected the younger children most need to discussed, even if they are to be discounted. The authors need to demonstrate that all their results are due to map reading/reasoning (as the authors imply) and are not an artefact of the procedure (e.g. older participants’ longer time looking at the map; or older participants’ better mental rotation skills, and so on). 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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: "The authors thoroughly addressed the comments raised in both reviews. The current version provides a clear explanation of the rationale and a reasonable interpretation of findings; the design and analyses are particularly strong features of the study. My recommendation is to accept the manuscript." Reviewer #2: This is a thorough revision of the original submission. The changes address all the comments that I made in my original review. (n.b. there are some missing words on line178 which needs a minor correction). ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No |
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