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Reviewer #1: The main aim of the present manuscript by Lebek and collaborators is
the description of a new model of obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) in rodents by injecting
polytetrafluoroethylene in the base of their tongue, thebe increasing its size. By
mean of plethysmography, the authors found that apneas are doubled in OSA mice. The
number of apneas correlate with systolic and diastolic function, and hypoxia molecular
markers. Tongue size remained stable for 8 weeks.
The manuscript is well written and, in general, easy to follow.
Other OSA animal models have been published and are discussed. However, some others
needing few manipulation or setup are not mentioned (eg, Rubies et al. Sci Rep. 2019;9:11443).
Amongst similar models, the authors acknowledge injection of a variety of inert or
biological substances in the tongue or larynges of large (monkey) and small (rabbit,
rat) animals. The main advance of the present model is its use in mice and the possibility
to use transgenic animals. Whether the model developed in rat (hyaluronate injection)
could be used in mice has not been studied.
Response: We thank the reviewer for these important comments. Indeed, several animal
models of OSA have been published. We have discussed these different models and approaches
without being exhaustive. We agree with the reviewer that the model of Rubies et al.
is interesting and needs to be included in our discussion. We have therefore added
the following sentence on page 21 lines 435-438 to the discussion section of the revised
manuscript.
“Another rat model of OSA mimicking airway obstruction was first described by Farré
et al. [35]. Rats were placed awake in a setup with two chambers split by a latex
neck collar and airway obstruction was induced by interruption of bias flow in the
head chamber [35,36].”
Moreover, we now also discuss that the previously published rat model of upper airway
obstruction by hyaluronate injection may also be applicable to mice. You can read
on page 24 in lines 500-505:
“Additionally, polyacrylamide and sodium hyaluronate injection into the palate of
rabbits and rats, respectively, has been shown to induce obstructive sleep apnea by
upper airway obstruction [42,43]. Unfortunately, the availability of appropriate knock-out
or transgene models is very limited in both rabbits and rats. In this context, future
studies investigating sodium hyaluronate injection into the palate of mice may lead
to another promising animal model of OSA.”
I have several major comments.
One of my most important concerns is whether apneas/flow limitations occur during
sleep only. The authors’ state so on the basis of a subjective assessment of flow
patterns during light and dark periods, but objective data is warranted. Flow and
apnea recordings during awake periods (night time, darkness) in both groups, and formal
comparisons, are warranted.
Response: We appreciate this important comment. Indeed, it is essential to delineate
whether inspiratory flow limitations (IFLs) and apneas occur during sleep only. To
account for this, we have performed novel experiments for the revised version of the
manuscript by measuring breathing patterns (whole-body plethysmography) during night-time,
darkness, when mice are awake. To also investigate the shift from awake breathing
to sleep-related breathing we have, furthermore, extended the recording period to
22 hours (from 10 p.m. to 8. p.m. the other day). As obvious from the original recording
(novel figure a) in S4 Fig) IFLs and apneas do not occur during night-time (10 p.m.
– 7 a.m. the other day) in awake PFTE-treated mice. In accordance, no airway obstruction
was observed during this period (b) in S4 Fig) In sharp contrast, as evident from
the original recording (novel figure a) in S4 Fig), the same PTFE-treated mouse showed
a substantial increase in IFL/apnea frequency during the light period (7 a.m. – 8
p.m.), when mice are sleeping. Interestingly, the shift from awake to sleep time may
be even inferred from the strong decrease in breathing frequency occurring around
7 a.m. and remaining low during daytime. The lack of IFL and apneas occurrence during
night-time/awake time was also evident from mean data analyzed from 5 mice (novel
figure c) in S4 Fig). During night-time, we observed a very low frequency of IFLs
and apneas in PTFE-treated mice that was comparable to control mice (P=1.00 for both,
c) in S4 Fig). Importantly, no IFL aggregates were observed in awake mice.
We have added the novel data to the results section of the revised manuscript on page
15 in lines 310-316:
“When mice were awake (during night-time, 10 p.m. – 7 a.m.), control and PTFE mice
showed a similar breathing pattern with a negligible number of IFLs and no IFL aggregates
indicating that PTFE injection into the tongue does not induce a fixed upper airway
obstruction (S4 Fig). In conscious mice, mean IFL frequency (/h) was 1.98±0.52 vs.
2.49±0.51 (PTFE vs. control; N=5 for both; P=1.00; c) in S4 Fig). Also, mean apnea
frequency (/h) was very low and similar in awake PTFE and control mice (1.95±1.01
vs. 2.38±1.19; N=5 for both; P=1.00; c) in S4 Fig).”
Moreover, we discuss these findings in the revised version of the manuscript on page
23-24 in lines 487-495:
“Importantly, PTFE injection into the tongue does not lead to a fixed upper airway
obstruction (S4 Fig). In sleeping mice, only about 0.50% of all breaths in PTFE mice
were flow limited (b) in S3 Fig). In accordance with the intermittent nature of obstructive
breathing abnormalities, the PTFE-induced IFLs and apneas occurred in clusters and
only in sleeping mice (a) in S4 Fig). In contrast, awake PTFE mice exhibit a regular
breathing pattern without airway obstruction (b) in S4 Fig). Moreover, we observed
no IFL aggregates and similar frequencies of IFLs and apneas after PTFE treatment
during awake periods (c) in S4 Fig). Therefore, hypoxia is likely not present in awake
mice.”
Although we can now demonstrate that the PTFE-induced apneas and IFLs occur mainly
during the murine sleep time, we cannot correlate the apneas and IFLs with definite
sleep, e.g. using EEG. We have accounted for this aspect in the limitations section
on page 28 in lines 595-603:
“We have not directly monitored sleep cycles by electroencephalography, which would
have required a substantial additional methodological effort. On the other hand, performing
sleep apnea monitoring without electroencephalography during the usual rodent sleep
cycle (day-time, e.g. 9 AM to 5 PM) has been shown to be feasible [20]. Additionally,
we have shown here that IFLs do not occur with an uniform distribution across the
monitoring interval. Instead, they form clusters when mice were supposed to sleep,
while no IFL aggregates and only a very low frequency of IFLs was observed at night-time
when mice were awake. Nevertheless, further investigations are required to directly
correlate IFLs and apneas with sleep.”
Some of the authors claims are not sufficiently supported and need more supporting
data. The authors state that the model was very effective. According to figure 2b,
there was a large overlap in the number of apneas in control and OSA mice. In which
percentage of OSA animals the number of apneas was higher than normal (ie, “normal”
could be defined as the mean+2SD apneas in the control group)?
Response: We thank the reviewer for this important comment. Indeed, there was a substantial
variation in the in the number of apneas in control and PTFE mice, which is not unusual
for this type of measurement. As suggested by the reviewer, we have performed a novel
analysis for the revised version of the manuscript: by using the mean±2SD of the control
group, a cut-off of 14.75 apneas/h was used to discriminate between normal or abnormal
increased apnea frequency. Interestingly, 8 out of 25 PTFE mice (32%) but only 2 out
of 28 control mice showed an abnormal increased apnea frequency (P=0.02, Chi-square
test). We believe that this substantial and significant increase in the number of
abnormally breathing mice after PTFE treatment is convincing. We have added the novel
analysis to the result section (page 15, lines 299-304) and b) in novel S2 Fig:
“Moreover, the proportion of mice showing an abnormally increased apnea frequency
above the cut-off of 14.75 apneas/h (mean apnea frequency of control mice + 2 standard
deviations) was significantly increased in PTFE-injected mice (b) in S2 Fig). Interestingly,
8 out of 25 PTFE mice but only 2 out of 28 control mice showed an abnormally increased
apnea frequency (P=0.02; b) in S2 Fig).”
The authors also claim that a single injection results in sustained airway obstruction
at 8 weeks. Nevertheless, the authors show that tongue size remains stable from baseline
to 8 weeks. One may argue that, while tongue size remains stable, mice keep growing
and, thereby, the relative obstruction (and thereby, apnea effectiveness) is lower
at the 8-week timepoint. The authors do only demonstrate a significant increase in
apnea frequency a the 2-week timepoint, but not at the 8-week timepoint.
Response: We thank the reviewer for this important comment. Indeed, it is essential
to ensure that IFL and apnea frequency remains stable for the whole 8-week follow-up
period. We can now show in the revised version of the manuscript novel data comparing
frequencies of IFLs, IFL aggregates, and apneas at the 2-week with the 8-week timepoint
(novel figure c) in S2 Fig). Importantly, all parameters (IFLs, IFL aggregates, apneas)
remain stable for the whole observation period and no significant difference was observed.
We have added this finding to the results section on page 16 in lines 327-331:
“Importantly, the intermittent airway obstruction in sleeping mice remained stable
for the whole observation period. Compared to the 2-week timepoint, frequencies of
apneas (P=0.71), IFLs (P=0.38), and IFL aggregates (P=0.95) were similar at 8 weeks
after PTFE injection (N=6 for all; c) in S2 Fig).”
Moreover, we have discussed this observation on page 23 in lines 485-487:
“According to the sustained increase in tongue diameter, we could demonstrate that
the increased frequencies of IFLs and apneas remained stable for the whole 8-week
observation period (c) in S2 Fig).”
In addition, to those animals that had to be sacrificed and data on normal weight
gain, was any evidence of stress or pain evident?
Response: We thank the reviewer for this important comment. In order to respect animals’
wellbeing and to avoid animal suffering, we performed everyday visual inspection of
every mouse in the study. In particular, we analyzed their skin, food intake, movements
and interaction with other mice. If a mouse showed an abnormal behavior, we immediately
sacrificed the animal (only 6 mice had to be sacrificed (S1 Fig)). All the other mice
(25/31) showed no evidence of stress or pain and could be monitored for the whole
observation period. To account for this, we added to the method section on page 8
in lines 127-134:
“From 31 mice treated with PTFE, 6 mice had to be killed within 72 h because of surgery-related
complications (e.g. bleeding into the tongue, extensive tongue enlargement or infection).
In order to respect animals’ wellbeing and to avoid animal suffering, we performed
everyday visual inspection of every mouse. In particular, we analyzed their skin,
food intake, movements and interaction with other mice. If a mouse showed an abnormal
behavior, we immediately sacrificed the animal (6 mice had to be sacrificed (S1 Fig)).
All the other mice (25/31) showed no evidence of stress or pain and could be monitored
for the whole observation period of 8 weeks.”
The number of induced apneas is rather modest: on average, less than doubles the number
of apneas. In contrast, other animal models and OSA in human increase the number of
apneas by several-fold. However, the authors show a remarkable cardiovascular affectation,
including systolic dysfunction. Could the authors discuss?
Response: This is an important comment. We have discussed the severity of intermittent
airway obstruction in comparison to other animal models and its impact on pathophysiology
on page 26, lines 552-565 of the discussion section of the revised manuscript:
“The frequency of apnea events and the increase with PTFE-injection was rather modest
in our model. In contrast, many other animal models exceed the severity of human OSA,
partly because the consequences are to be detected within a few weeks [12,16,33,32].
We have extended our observation period to a long duration of 8 weeks, other mouse
models usually perform OSA protocols (e.g. CIH, tracheal occlusion) for about 3-5
weeks [12,16,35,36,20,32]. We did this to model the human situation more closely,
where mild intermittent airway obstruction may result in the development of pathophysiological
sequelae only after years. Despite this mild increase in intermittent airway obstruction,
we show here that the frequency of apneas correlated significantly with the severity
of contractile dysfunction and other features of the heart failure (heart and lung
weight, Figs 4 and 5), suggesting a causal relationship. On the other hand, we cannot
exclude that other factors following OSA that are not directly related to intermittent
airway obstruction may also potentially contribute to the phenotype of these mice.”
Could other factors play a role? The authors claim that the cardiovascular effects
of the present OSA model may not be caused by comorbidities. However, OSA promotes
an increase in bloop pressure, and resistant hypertension (Tietjens et al. J Am Heart
Assoc 2019;8: e010440), but blood pressure is not tested.
Response: We thank the reviewer for this important comment. We agree with the reviewer
that obstructive sleep apnea may result in the development of arterial hypertension
with increased cardiac afterload. In fact, this may partly explain the cardiac phenotype
of the present model. However, all animals subjected to PTFE injection had been healthy
C57BL/6 mice at baseline. Thus, all potential pathophysiologic changes that may have
developed during the 8 weeks observation period, let it be increased blood pressure,
impaired myocardial contractility or impaired sleep with chronic sympathetic stress,
are secondary to the PTFE-induced intermittent airway obstruction during sleep. Consequently,
all cardiovascular effects can be (directly or indirectly) attributed to OSA. This
differentiates our model from obese and diabetic mouse models of sleep apnea, for
instance, where OSA-independent comorbidities confound the experiments. Future studies
using our model may address the relative contribution of the different pathophysiological
alterations secondary to OSA individually.
To account for this, we have added this aspect to the revised version of the manuscript
on page 25 in lines 526-539:
“Since obstructive sleep apnea may result in the development of arterial hypertension
with increased cardiac afterload, this may partly explain the cardiac phenotype of
the present model. In fact, rodent OSA models showed OSA-dependent development of
arterial hypertension [16,32,44].
However, all our mice subjected to PTFE injection had been healthy at baseline. Thus,
all potential pathophysiologic changes that may have developed during the 8 weeks
observation period, such as increased blood pressure, impaired myocardial contractility
or impaired sleep with chronic sympathetic stress, are secondary to the PTFE-induced
intermittent airway obstruction during sleep. Consequently, all cardiovascular effects
can be (directly or indirectly) attributed to OSA. This differentiates our model from
obese and diabetic mouse models of sleep apnea, for instance, where OSA-independent
comorbidities confound the experiments. Future studies using our model may address
the relative contribution of the different pathophysiological alterations secondary
to OSA individually.”
Statistical analyses are, in general, appropriate. Was normality assessed? Were paired
t-test or repeated measures ANOVA performed with those with >1 measurement per animal?
Response: We thank the reviewer for this important comment. In the revised version
of the manuscript, we have now tested all data for normal distribution using Shapiro-Wilk
normality test. Consequently, we used a parametric or a non-parametric test, depending
on whether a variable was normally distributed or not, respectively. Moreover, one
may argue that in some figures longitudinal observations are presented and paired
t-tests or repeated measures ANOVA may be considered. All these data sets are discussed
here:
1) in b) in Fig 1, data for 8 weeks was only available for a subgroup of mice, which
hampers the use of a repeated measures ANOVA.
2) in c) in Fig 1, a two factor repeated measures study design was present. As recommended
by the reviewer we have now performed a mixed-effects model analysis with Holm-Sidak’s
post-hoc correction.
3) In novel S2 Fig, longitudinal data is compared, wherefore we used one-way repeated
measures ANOVA with Holm-Sidak’s post-hoc correction.
We have therefore revised the methods section on page 13 in lines 255-272 now describing
this new statistical analysis:
“All measurements and experiments were performed and analyzed blinded to the treatment
group (control or PTFE) and to frequency of apneas. Experimental data are presented
as means ± standard error of the mean (SEM). All statistical analyses were based on
the number of mice and normal distribution was assessed by Shapiro-Wilk normality
test. Parametric or non-parametric tests were applied to test for significant differences,
depending on whether a variable was normally distributed or not. Parametric and non-parametric
tests used for the comparison of two groups were Student’s t and Mann-Whitney test,
respectively. Ordinary one-way ANOVA with Holm-Sidak’s post-hoc correction and Kruskal-Wallis
test with Dunn’s post-hoc correction were used for comparisons of more than two groups
that were either normally or not normally distributed, respectively. One-way repeated
measures ANOVA with Holm-Sidak’s post-hoc correction was used for the comparison of
paired data that was normally distributed. If more than two groups and two different
factors were compared in a repeated measures design, mixed-effects model analysis
with Holm-Sidak’s post-hoc correction was used. Chi-square test was used for the comparison
of categorial data. The tests above as well as linear regression analyses were used
in GraphPad Prism 8 to test for significance, as appropriate. Two-sided P-values below
0.05 were considered as statistically significant.”
Considering that this paper is mainly describing a new method, it may be informative
providing a recording of tongue injections.
Response: We appreciate this important comment. We have performed a video recording
of the surgical procedure of PTFE tongue injection. It can be found in the revised
version of the manuscript as Supporting Information named “S1 Video”. Tongue injection
procedure”.
Were mice sacrificed during the light or dark period?
Response: This is an important comment. All mice were sacrificed during the light
period, i.e. regular sleep time of the animals. We have added this information on
page 6 in lines 85-87:
“All animals were euthanized by cervical dislocation during the light period, i.e.
regular sleep time of the animals (usually in the afternoon).”
How was tongue echography performed?
Response: We thank the reviewer for this comment and have now added the novel paragraph
“Sonographic measurement of tongue diameter” to the revised method section on pages
8-9 in lines 136-153:
“Tongue size was measured by ultrasound during the PTFE injection procedure. Mice
were placed in supine position onto a heating plate. The tongue was gripped with a
tiny crocodile clip. Ultrasound gel was placed onto the murine throat, mandible and
mouth, but not on nostrils to keep mice breathing. Thereafter, a 30 MHz center frequency
transducer (Vevo3100 system from VisualSonics, Toronto, Canada) was placed at median
position of the murine throat to measure the dorso-ventral tongue diameter in sagittal
plane. For some recordings, the ultrasound head was rotated clockwise by 90° to also
measure the lateral tongue diameters in the transversal plane (a) in S2 Fig). Recordings
were acquired with 56 frames/s (gain 30 dB). For optimal magnification, acquisition
was performed with 10.00 mm depth and 15.36 mm width. We used the presetting of VisualSonics;
thus, no calibration was required. By carefully stirring the tongue via the crocodile
clip and comparing tongue movements with the other pharyngeal structures under sonographic
recording, tongue surface was easily discriminated from surrounding tissue and tongue
diameter was assessed. Similar measurements were done before and after PTFE injection
in a standardized manner. All measurements were done by the same investigator; therefore,
Kappa statistics cannot be reported. We did not use any fluorescence techniques to
identify the area of injection.”
Were ventricular samples obtained from the left or right ventricle? Could the authors
show the full WB lane?
Response: We thank the reviewer for this comment. In order to save enough material
for protein analyses, we used the whole left and right ventricle for homogenization.
We have added this information to the method section (page 12, line 237). In addition,
we now show the full Western blot gels of CaMKII and GAPDH as Supporting Information
“S1 Gels. Raw images”.
Both in the introduction and the discussion, the authors claim that CPAP may be harmful
to OSA patients on the basis of SERVE-HF trial. However, the authors statement might
be misleading and should be corrected. The Cowie et al. trial did include patients
with predominant central apneas, in contrast to an OSA population.
Response: We thank the reviewer for this comment and apologize this misunderstanding.
We have specified the statements in the introduction and in the discussion accordingly.
It now reads on page 4 in lines 48-50 in the introduction:
“While treatment with ventilation-therapy may reduce apnea events, not all patients
can tolerate it [6] and this treatment may even be harmful for selected patients (e.g.
for patients with predominant central apneas) [7].”
We have also specified the statement in the discussion on page 20 in lines 405-409:
“To date, the treatment of OSA is mainly limited to continuous positive airway pressure
(CPAP), but acceptance of CPAP in patients with low symptom burden is limited [6]
and treatment with positive pressure ventilation (adaptive servo-ventilation) may
be even harmful for specific patient populations (e.g. for patients with predominant
central apneas) [7].”
Reviewer #2: I do have some comments related to some of sections of the manuscript:
*Title: The title of the paper does reflect what was done but does not seem to follow
the overall rationale of the manuscript. I would suggest editing the title to match
what was done with greater accuracy. Make clear to the reader that this was done in
mice, with the aim to present a novel animal model of OSA.
Response: We appreciate this important comment and have revised the title accordingly.
It now reads “A novel mouse model of obstructive sleep apnea by bulking agent-induced
tongue enlargement results in left ventricular contractile dysfunction”. Moreover,
we have also revised the short title that now reads “A novel mouse model of sleep
apnea with contractile dysfunction”.
*Methods
1- How was the 100 uL amount determined? Were other amounts tested previously? If
yes, please include this in the paper and how the investigators reached a final decision
to use 100 uL.
Response: This is an important comment. Our approach was based on the findings of
Brennick et al., who had measured pharyngeal structures of New Zealand Obese mice
(NZO) with spontaneous OSA using MRI (Brennick MJ, Pack AI, Ko K, Kim E, Pickup S,
Maislin G, et al. Altered upper airway and soft tissue structures in the New Zealand
Obese mouse. Am J Respir Crit Care Med. 2009; 179: 158–169). Interestingly, they report
that NZO mice (aged 23 weeks, mean body weight 35.7 g) showed a significantly increased
mean tongue volume to about 137 µl (compared to 104 µl in control animals). This corresponds
to a mean increase of 33 µl tongue volume. Since the tongue volume is the most important
determinant of pharyngeal airway size for OSA (Schwab RJ, Pasirstein M, Pierson R,
Mackley A, Hachadoorian R, Arens R, et al. Identification of upper airway anatomic
risk factors for obstructive sleep apnea with volumetric magnetic resonance imaging.
Am J Respir Crit Care Med. 2003; 168: 522–530), we aimed to increase the tongue volume
of our mice to a similar extent by PTFE injection into the base of the tongue. We
used younger mice (mean body weight 27.7 g, only about 70% of the body weight compared
to Brennick et al.) to enable the 8-week follow-up observation period. Thus, we anticipated
that an increase of about 20-25 µl tongue volume would result in a similar airway
obstruction. PTFE is a solid substance (density 2.1 g/ml). 50 mg of PTFE was diluted
to 100 µl (50% w/v) with glycerol (Sigma Aldrich). 100 µl of this dilution contains
24 µl pure PTFE, which almost exactly matches the aimed increase in tongue volume.
Larger PTFE injection volumes were investigated in some test mice, but periprocedural
mortality exceeded. Since we were not interested in less upper airway obstruction,
we have not studied lower injection volumes.
We have added this information to the method section of the revised version of the
manuscript on pages 6-7 in lines 94-110:
“Our approach was based on the findings of Brennick et al., who had measured pharyngeal
structures of New Zealand Obese mice (NZO) with spontaneous OSA using MRI [14]. Interestingly,
they report that NZO mice (aged 23 weeks, mean body weight 35.7 g) showed a significantly
increased mean tongue volume to about 137 µl (compared to 104 µl in control animals).
This corresponds to a mean increase of 33 µl tongue volume. Since the tongue volume
is the most important determinant of pharyngeal airway size for OSA [19], we aimed
to increase the tongue volume of our mice to a similar extent by PTFE injection into
the base of the tongue. We used younger mice (mean body weight 27.7 g, only about
70% of the body weight compared to Brennick et al. [14]) to enable the 8-week follow-up
observation period. Thus, we anticipated that an increase of about 20-25 µl tongue
volume would result in a similar airway obstruction. PTFE is a solid substance (density
2.1 g/ml). 50 mg of PTFE was diluted to 100 µl (50% w/v) with glycerol (Sigma Aldrich).
100 µl of this dilution contains 24 µl pure PTFE, which almost exactly matches the
aimed increase in tongue volume. Larger injection volumes were investigated in some
test mice, but periprocedural mortality exceeded. Since we were not interested in
less upper airway obstruction, we have not studied lower injection volumes.”
2- The plethysmography was done during the daytime. I realize that mice are nocturnal
animals, and I would stress in the methods sections that the recordings were done
during the sleep cycle. On a related note, what happens to levels of hypoxia etc when
they are awake?
Response: We thank the reviewer for this helpful comment. We now explain in the method
section on page 9 in lines 164-167 that recordings were conducted during the murine
sleep cycle:
“Since mice are nocturnal animals, continuous recordings (sampling frequency 1 kHz)
were done for 8 h during day-time, the interval with the highest frequency and duration
of sleep periods complying with the murine sleep cycle [20].”
Moreover, we have added novel data to the revised version of the manuscript investigating
breathing characteristics at night-time (activity time), when mice are awake (S4 Fig).
Intriguingly, awake mice showed no IFL aggregates and only very low frequencies of
IFLs and apneas with no differences between the control and PTFE-treated animals.
Consistently, the level of intermittent hypoxia should be negligible in PTFE-treated
awake mice and comparable to control mice.
We have added this aspect to the revised discussion section on pages 23-24 in lines
487-495:
“Importantly, PTFE injection into the tongue does not lead to a fixed upper airway
obstruction (S4 Fig). In sleeping mice, only about 0.50% of all breaths in PTFE mice
were flow limited (b) in S3 Fig). In accordance with the intermittent nature of obstructive
breathing abnormalities, the PTFE-induced IFLs and apneas occurred in clusters and
only in sleeping mice (a) in S4 Fig). In contrast, awake PTFE mice exhibit a regular
breathing pattern without airway obstruction (b) in S4 Fig). Moreover, we observed
no IFL aggregates and similar frequencies of IFLs and apneas after PTFE treatment
during awake periods (c) in S4 Fig). Therefore, hypoxia is likely not present in awake
mice.”
3- Based on figure 1 a, it seems very arbitrary how tongue volume was measured. My
questions to the authors are: How were the images standardized? Was a specific magnification
used? Were all these measurements done by the same investigator? Was there a calibration?
Any Kappa statistics to be reported? Are there any fluorescence techniques to show
the areas of injection? This should be added to the paper? Finally, the imaging seems
to be in 2D, while you are referring to tongue volume. If a 3D measurement was done,
more detail is needed about how the different planes of space were oriented, etc.
The whole paper is based on the increase tongue volume, it would be beneficial to
have more details about how the tongue volume was assessed.
Response: We appreciate this important comment and agree with the reviewer that measurement
of the tongue size should be described more in detail. Therefore, we have added a
novel paragraph “Sonographic measurement of tongue diameter” to the methods section
of the revised manuscript.
On pages 8-9, lines 136-153 the text reads as following:
“Tongue size was measured by ultrasound during the PTFE injection procedure. Mice
were placed in supine position onto a heating plate. The tongue was gripped with a
tiny crocodile clip. Ultrasound gel was placed onto the murine throat, mandible and
mouth, but not on nostrils to keep mice breathing. Thereafter, a 30 MHz center frequency
transducer (Vevo3100 system from VisualSonics, Toronto, Canada) was placed at median
position of the murine throat to measure the dorso-ventral tongue diameter in sagittal
plane. For some recordings, the ultrasound head was rotated clockwise by 90° to also
measure the lateral tongue diameters in the transversal plane (a) in S2 Fig). Recordings
were acquired with 56 frames/s (gain 30 dB). For optimal magnification, acquisition
was performed with 10.00 mm depth and 15.36 mm width. We used the presetting of VisualSonics;
thus, no calibration was required. By carefully stirring the tongue via the crocodile
clip and comparing tongue movements with the other pharyngeal structures under sonographic
recording, tongue surface was easily discriminated from surrounding tissue and tongue
diameter was assessed. Similar measurements were done before and after PTFE injection
in a standardized manner. All measurements were done by the same investigator; therefore,
Kappa statistics cannot be reported. We did not use any fluorescence techniques to
identify the area of injection.”
We agree with the reviewer that it would have been better to measure tongue volume
instead of diameters only. However, a precise measurement of tongue volume by 3D ultrasound
would require the measurement of tongue length in addition to dorso-ventral and lateral
diameter. Since the tip of the tongue was gripped with a tiny crocodile clip, the
ultrasound head would not be able to reach it. Therefore, precise measurement of tongue
length is not possible. Nevertheless, for the revised version of the manuscript we
have now performed novel experiments to measure dorso-ventral and lateral tongue diameter
in the same animal by rotating the ultrasound head 90 degrees to measure the transversal
plane. In panel a) in S2 Fig we now report dorso-ventral and lateral tongue diameters
and calculated cross-sectional area following PTFE injection (novel panel a) in S2
Fig). Intriguingly, both tongue diameters increased in parallel and to a similar extent
resulting in a significant increase of cross-sectional tongue area (a) in S2 Fig).
We have added these novel findings to the results section on page 14 in lines 278-280:
“Interestingly, we observed a similar increase in transversal tongue diameter leading
to a homogenous increase of cross-sectional tongue area from (in mm²) 9.23±0.41 to
19.90±0.86 (N=5; P<0.001; a) in S2 Fig).”
Moreover, to avoid misunderstanding, we have revised the entire manuscript and clarified
our terminology: we now use either tongue diameter, cross-sectional area or volume,
as appropriate.
*Discussion/Conclusions
Based on the authors findings on the increased heart and lung weight, significant
increases in CaMKII and KDM6A, it is quite clear to me that these mice developed cardiovascular
morbidity from the intervention. That being the case, I disagree that this is a purely
a model of OSA in mice. It can be argued that this is on the far end of extremely
severe OSA, which may be encountered in heart failure patients. I would suggest acknowledging
these findings and adapting the text to reflect that. Still, these data suggest a
novel approach for a future valid OSA model, however it poses the question whether
this animal model would be able to represent the burden of solely due to OSA.
Response: We appreciate this important comment. However, we disagree on the statement
that our model would be at the far end of extremely severe OSA.
On page 26, lines 540-551 of the discussion section of the revised manuscript we explain
this matter. The text reads as following:
“The cardiovascular dysfunction developed by mice in our model is rather modest. A
reduction of ejection fraction from 56.10±2.49% in control to 49.02±2.07% in PTFE
mice may be detectable, but its pathophysiological relevance may be low. There are
mouse models of systolic heart failure like transverse aortic constriction that would
result in a much larger degree of systolic dysfunction [45]. Moreover, if compared
to patients, the magnitude of ejection fraction observed in our PTFE mice would still
be in the normal to subnormal range. On the other hand, we have observed many clinical
features that can be found in patients with heart failure with preserved ejection
fraction or patients with hypertension and hypertensive heart disease [46,47]. Importantly,
arterial hypertension and heart failure with preserved ejection fraction are very
common in patients with OSA and not only found in those patients at the far end of
extremely severe intermittent airway obstruction [48–50].“
In addition, we state on page 25, lines 526-539:
“Since obstructive sleep apnea may result in the development of arterial hypertension
with increased cardiac afterload, this may partly explain the cardiac phenotype of
the present model. In fact, rodent OSA models showed OSA-dependent development of
arterial hypertension [16,32,44].
However, all our mice subjected to PTFE injection had been healthy at baseline. Thus,
all potential pathophysiologic changes that may have developed during the 8 weeks
observation period, such as increased blood pressure, impaired myocardial contractility
or impaired sleep with chronic sympathetic stress, are secondary to the PTFE-induced
intermittent airway obstruction during sleep. Consequently, all cardiovascular effects
can be (directly or indirectly) attributed to OSA. This differentiates our model from
obese and diabetic mouse models of sleep apnea, for instance, where OSA-independent
comorbidities confound the experiments. Future studies using our model may address
the relative contribution of the different pathophysiological alterations secondary
to OSA individually.”
With respect to the severity of intermittent airway obstruction we also state on page
26, lines 552-565:
“The frequency of apnea events and the increase with PTFE-injection was rather modest
in our model. In contrast, many other animal models exceed the severity of human OSA,
partly because the consequences are to be detected within a few weeks [12,16,33,32].
We have extended our observation period to a long duration of 8 weeks, other mouse
models usually perform OSA protocols (e.g. CIH, tracheal occlusion) for about 3-5
weeks [12,16,35,36,20,32]. We did this to model the human situation more closely,
where mild intermittent airway obstruction may result in the development of pathophysiological
sequelae only after years. Despite this mild increase in intermittent airway obstruction,
we show here that the frequency of apneas correlated significantly with the severity
of contractile dysfunction and other features of the heart failure (heart and lung
weight, Figs 4 and 5), suggesting a causal relationship. On the other hand, we cannot
exclude that other factors following OSA that are not directly related to intermittent
airway obstruction may also potentially contribute to the phenotype of these mice.”
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