Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionJune 26, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-19600 Seeing our 3D world while only viewing contour-drawings PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Tadamasa Sawada, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Sep 21 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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[Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: In this study participants performed simple visuomotor tasks in which they wore an AR device that showed them the visual field, but instead of capturing a full color photograph of the visual field the display showed a grayscale image or a the edges in the image. In each task, the participants’ behavior in the grayscale image and the edge image was not substantially different. The authors conclude that their study suggests that contour information is sufficient to the visual system to determine all 3D information that would be required for performing everyday tasks. Overall, the experiments seem to be performed well, and the analyses were also performed correctly. It would be nice if the actual demographic information about participants was included in the text, and the readers were not just referred to the OSF repository. The use of dynamic scenes seems to be an important point of the article, but I would guess that if the participant was shown only a static image, they would still be able to perform the task in experiment 2 and the tongs task of experiment 3, and that it would take equally as long to do the task in the line drawing condition as the grayscale image condition. The claims in this paper rely on a negative finding. This makes it more difficult to justify the claims of the paper, especially with 12 participants per experiment. With a larger sample size the lack of a difference would be more persuasive. Also, to make the claim that this study shows that contours are sufficient to extract all necessary 3D information for every day tasks, the authors should spend some more time justifying that their three tasks generalize to other everyday tasks. From previous work (M. Potter or I. Biederman, and from people communicating with drawings throughout history) we know that line drawings of static images are sufficient for image understanding. We also know that in a AR/VR environment people can successfully interact with their environment even if they are not photorealistic (Triesch, Ballard, Hayhoe, and Sullivan, 2003, many others too) – however I will note that this previous AR/VR work almost always gives the participant 3D information from binocular disparity. From our ability to understand cartoon videos, and the ability to even perceive intentionality and emotional content from simple line drawing videos (Hieder and Simmel) we know that people can understand dynamic line drawings. So I do not see anything unexpected about these results. I also am surprised that a study like this has not already been performed. So while I don’t see this as very novel or surprising, if it is has not been done by anyone else, then something like this should be published. Reviewer #2: The paper is interesting, and the experiments are clearly described. The AR part is clear, even the stereoscopic part. Nevertheless, the authors must address the following concerns. - rows 67-79 The authors implemented a simple algorithm for edge detection (not edges, but a combination of the image gradient), it would be very interesting to see how the results of their work might change as a function of the contour detection algorithms that can produce different kinds of contour (e.g. real edges, i.e. edges 1 pixel wide, black on white background or more human-like, i.e. edges more similar to the ones humans draw). The authors should discuss this point and try to do extend at least one of their experiments by using a different edge detection algorithm. - rows 91-96 I wonder whether the low refresh rate and high lag has affected the results of the experiments, mainly since experiments are related to dynamical scene, when subjects interact with objects (i.e. the poor performance of the device has flattened the difference between the two conditions). This concern rises from my experience in AR/VR when the devices have poor performance. The authors should discuss (and take into consideration) this point. - Experiment 1: Shape Matching It would be interesting to compare the subject performance in this AR experiment with respect to the baseline in real conditions (i.e. without wearing the AR device). This allow us both to have an idea of the reliability of the response time (e.g. it is so high that the difference between the condition are saturated) and to have an idea of the effect of the depth cue. The authors should discuss this point and try to do extend at least one of their experiments by comparing it with the result of one without wearing the AR device. - rows 211-215: These results are affected by the kind of algorithms (conditions) the authors implemented, since the algorithm outputs depend on the object textures. I think this can not be completely related to the influence of contours on 3D interpretation of a scene. - General discussion I am not totally convinced about the explanation of the authors, since their contours depend a lot on object textures, i.e. on the chosen algorithm, more than the effectiveness of the contours themselves (Experiment 2). Moreover, there is not a baseline without wearing the AR device. I think that the study could be more solid by following my previous suggestions. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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PONE-D-20-19600R1 Seeing our 3D world while only viewing contour-drawings PLOS ONE Dear Tadamasa, I am happy to report that both reviewers are essentially satisfied with your revision. Reviewer 2 has a few minor points that you should be able to address easily. I will accept the paper once these minor changes have been made. Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 03 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors addressed all of our concerns. They added relevant literature, demographic information, and clarifications about the study. As the study relies on a null finding, they slightly toned down their claims to a more appropriate level. The study may have benefited from a Bayesian analysis to support the claims more strongly. Overall, I see no technical problems with the paper as it is now. Reviewer #2: The authors addressed the concerns I raised in my review in a satisfactory way (by looking at the answers to the other reviewer too). In particular, I pointed out that it should interesting to compare the subject performance in these AR experiments with respect to the baseline in real conditions (i.e. without wearing the AR device). The authors replied that it is very difficult to test any naïve participants in such an interactive experiment in the current pandemic situation. They added an Appendix where two of the authors (MF, TS) ran sessions in Experiments 1, 2, and 3 without wearing. In normal situation this is not acceptable, but in the current situation I think this is an added value for the paper. Moreover, the important issue related to the use of only one edge detector, which can be solved by running the experiments by using a different algorithm, is hampered by the pandemic situation. Thus, it is fine for me again. However, in the Appendix the authors should add a row to each table in order to add the average performances of the experiments with the AR device to simplify the comparison (I think that the “See Figs. 5, 8, 11 for comparison” is not enough). Moreover, they should add a short comment about the comparison. I think that this point (at least) is important to improve the paper. Then, the work can be published for me. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email PLOS at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step. |
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Seeing our 3D world while only viewing contour-drawings PONE-D-20-19600R2 Dear Tadamasa, I am pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. With best wishes, Markus Markus Lappe Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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PONE-D-20-19600R2 Seeing our 3D world while only viewing contour-drawings Dear Dr. Sawada: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Markus Lappe Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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