Peer Review History
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PONE-D-20-01015 The bi-factor structure of the 17-item Hamilton Depression Rating Scale with persistent major depression disorder in specialist mental health services. PLOS ONE Dear Prof Morriss, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Jun 19 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I welcome the initiative of the authors to explore psychometric properties of the HDRS17 as, despite generally recognized shortcomings of this scale, it is the gold standard for measuring depression. The manuscript is well written and I agree with all of the strengths outlined on lines 295-304. As a manuscript about the dimensionality of the HDRS17 I have little to criticize. However, it is a grave scientific weakness of the paper that it makes wide claims about valid measurement, which implies much more than dimensionality. As this issue is so pivotal in this paper, and as it is bound to mislead the readership of the journal on a very central issue to psychometrics, I will focus on this issue in the following. Through the paper, one finds an apparent conflation between the summary scale score — i.e. they official, conventional and very simple way of deriving a single total score for the whole HDRS17 — and the highly elaborate, multidimensional person estimates derived from the structural model. We see a hint of this in the introduction, where the authors express concern that the total score of the HDRS17 may not measure the severity of a general depression factor. Yet they show no interest in testing a unidimensional measure. In the discussion (line 281), the authors state that "Such consistency in the factor structure of the HDRS17 [across two samples] would suggest that the HDRS17 is a valid measure of the general severity of depression in such settings". Here the authors again disregard the fact that the HDRS17 is conventionally scored based on the assumption of unidimensionality. However, the most manifest collision between the two confused concepts — the HDRS as a summary scale and the HDRS as it is modelled in ESEM — is found in the conclusions, line 319: "The total score of items on this measure [the HDRS17] are valid at each time point and over time". This is fundamentally wrong; a total score cannot be valid if it reflects more than one dimension. Also, the authors use a model without tau-equivalence, so their claim does not apply to the raw total score of the HDRS17, placing their validity claims far afield from the actual use of the HDRS17. Additionally, a valid total score builds on the assumptions of local independence and the absence of differential item functioning. If the authors wish to say anything about the validity of the raw total score of the HDRS-17, they need to test (or at least evaluate) all the above assumptions. If, on the other hand, the authors wish to revolutionize the way the HDRS-17 is used, they need to explain to the reader how their model can be used for the purpose of valid measurement (i.e. entering every item score into a computer program which will then return three measures for each individual) and discuss benefits and limitations of this use over alternative uses (e.g. the conventional HDRS-17 summary score as well as shortened subscales with the potential for a statistically sufficient raw score, such as the HamiltonD6/melancholia subscale). Alternatively, if the authors are only concerned with the dimensionality of the scale, they should clearly state this as their aim and they should clarify to the reader that their results do not support most of the assumptions underlying the current use of the HDRS17. Reviewer #2: 1) The authors identified individuals recruited in specialist mental health setting. It would be beneficial in understanding this population. Prevalence and severity of depression would help to identify why other measures were not chooses such as the BDI-II or the PHQ-9. 2) The authors mention inconsistencies of the HDRS17 factor structures even when compared to psychiatric interviews. The study’s methodology consisted of the Structured Clinical Interview (SCID) for DSM-IV. Analytical techniques using the SCID and the HDRS could have showed some consistency and validity of the data in terms of construct validity and reliability of the measure. There feels to be some missing processes known to be influential on the area of reported research. The study would benefit from analyses of reliability and validity across time stamps. 3) The authors evidenced fairly steady drops in the level of severity of depression. It would be beneficial to understand if treatment setting was moderating or mediating these values. Treatment with combination of CBT and psychopharmacological agent have shown the greatest reduction in depression severity. The authors study showed greater reduction of retardation-agitation factors score changes greater than worry-insomnia-factor. An elaboration of these results would be beneficial especially since factor loading of retardation-agitation are significant for depressed mood, suicidal thoughts, and agitations. It would have also been helpful if the results were comparable to other depression measures such as the PHQ-9 and BDI-II, and gain a better understanding of measurement precision and score comparability. The study in limited to the HDRS17 and it is difficult to really assess and control that the HDRS is capturing the whole spectrum of depression and it would be beneficial to apply some classical item response analysis. 4) Based on the above response and the novelty of the research study and inconsistencies related to the HDRS. The title of this study would be best fitted as a preliminary study of results. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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PONE-D-20-01015R1 The bi-factor structure of the 17-item Hamilton Depression Rating Scale in persistent major depression; dimensional measurement of outcome. PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Morriss, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 29 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. Guidelines for resubmitting your figure files are available below the reviewer comments at the end of this letter. If applicable, we recommend that you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io to enhance the reproducibility of your results. Protocols.io assigns your protocol its own identifier (DOI) so that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Thach Duc Tran, M.Sc., Ph.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: N/A Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors have used the feedback to substantially rewrite parts of the introduction, discussion, and conclusion section, "focusing on the factor structure of the scale, as a multidimensional measure". In their response to my previous comments, they explain how they have now toned down the implications of their results, e.g. that they now refrain from referring to the validity of the total score, and they explicate that their results need replication before they can be generalized. In fact, the authors now say nothing about validity, and they focus on how the results should first be replicated before we look at the challenges of operationalising — and presumably validating — the model for measurement. Here, it would have been helpful if the authors had chosen more explicitly amount the three routes outlined in my previous review: (a) to deal with the validity of a raw total score, (b) to revolutionize the way we use the HDRS-17, and (c) to deal exclusively with the dimensionality. While the authors refrain from a, they still stray between path b and c. The authors include a comparisson of their model with the six-item subscales defined by Bech and Maier, respectively. This is particularly welcome, as the Melancholia subscale has received support for construct validity, i.e. it appears that it can be utilized for measurement. This would be a good place to establish, how the authors consider the potential validity of their bi-factor model of the HDRS. The authors promote their model, contingent on replication, by writing that "This multidimensional reporting might provide a more accurate guide to future research and treatment in moderate-severe PMDD, including outcome monitoring". As such, they call for a fundamental change of the way the HDRS is used (what I refer to as "path b" above). This raises a host of questions about how the scale could be used and how it would need to be validated for such use. Strictly speaking, acknowledging the multidimensionality of the HDRS may allow us to retrieve more information from the responses, but when dealing with an essentially psychometric manuscript, we would not expect the authors to dismiss or postpone the issue of validity. As an example, when the authors allow negative loadings on two factors, we need to clarify whether person estimates for these traits can be used for outcome measurement. A second point to make about the Melancholia subscale, is that it resembles the general depression factor of this study. The authors relate it to the retardating/agitation factor, while, in fact, five out the the six items of the Melancholia scale display their highest loading on the general depression factor. The authors need to address this discrepancy. It also puts them in a better position to compare the utility of the Melancholia subscale and their General depression factor used as a scale for outcome measurement. As a separate, technical issue, I would like to ask the authors to clarify whether they included residual correlation parameters for the three imsomnia related items. Given the well-proven instability of the HDRS, and the authors' call for replication, it is important to have full transparency of the detection and modelling of any residual correlations, theorized ones as well as empirically discovered ones. I will reserve a final comment for inspiration, which may guide the authors in their reflection of the issues pointed out above. Here, I will try and explicate my own understanding of the implications of suggesting the bifactor model for clinical use. First, the factor structure of the HDRS has prooven highly unstable, and we need to put a lot of faith into the bifactor model to believe this is now going to change. But we cannot deny that it is possible, so I've raised no issue with this. Second, if we want to establish construct validity, we would likely need to do an elaborate analysis based on multidimensional item response theory, which would allow for testing of differential item functioning. Again, we cannot deny that this is possible despite the highly elaborate model, so I have raised no issue with this. Then, for clinical utility, we would need to enter each response into software that would return a person estimate for each factor based on the psychometric model. I wonder if the authors are aware of this. Based on the loadings in Table 3, we would expect to see the highest reliability on the General depression estimate, and as this factor has no negative loadings, it can potentially be used for outcome measurement. Arguements can be made for and against this estimate, relative to the simpler and well supported estimate of the Melancholica subscale, or even the 10-item Bech and Raphaelsen scale, which cover additional ICD-10 items of Major Depression (including suicidal ideation). The remaining two subscales cannot be used for outcome measurement, but as the authors suggest, may be used for outcome preduction for different types of intervention. Reliability may be limited, so for patients within a potentially wide confidence interval no clear guidance will be given. Given this fragmentation of the scale into an outcome scale and two predictor scales, we may ask ourselves why we are so keen to stick with the particular pool of items included in the HDRS-17. Reviewer #2: The authors have addressed concerns noted in first reviewer comments. I would have liked to see more in-depth methodology consisting of analytical techniques using the SCID, though the authors commented limited data. It would have been refreshing to see how associated or related the HDRS-17 would have been in addressing the criterion of persistent depression with other measures such as the PHQ-9, BDI-II, as this in my opinion would have added more clarity and depth regarding the dimensionality of the HDRS-17. However, authors were able to address my comments and concerns and I believe this is a publishable piece of work. I also appreciated a title change. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). 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PONE-D-20-01015R2 The bi-factor structure of the 17-item Hamilton Depression Rating Scale in persistent major depression; dimensional measurement of outcome. PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Morriss, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Oct 23 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I commend the authors on a well executed revision to their manuscript. My only additional request, is that the authors add a brief clarification in their manuscript, that they did not find any substantial residual correlations in the bi-factor model, as this would violate a basic assumption of the model. Also, optionally, I may recommend the authors to state that their results for the HDRS-6 do not establish if the total score features statistical sufficiency, and as such individual items may need to be weighed differently (e.g. higher weight to depressed mood, lower weight to psychomotor retardation, etc.). This is simply to underline that a scale is not simply valid or not, nor simply valid with a perticular population or not, but that validity also depends on the use case, e.g. whether a raw total score is used or if individual item responses are loaded differently in the scoring, in accordance with their loading in the CFA. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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