Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionSeptember 27, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-30419 GABA quantification in human anterior cingulate cortex PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Weis, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please update according to reviewers comments. Especially it would be prudent to update on the biological meaning of 'neurotransmitters', also remove some of the more basic explanations of the editing method, while expanding substantially on the experiment details, as suggested by reviewers. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jan 14 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). 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You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Summary: In this study, the authors propose a combination of PRESS and MEGA-PRESS acquisitions for absolute GABA quantification. In addition, the authors also demonstrate the QuasarX algorithm implemented in jMRUI used for the purpose of fitting the MEGA-PRESS spectra. This proposed GABA quantification method based on utilization of tCho, tCr, and tNAA as internal concentration references showed good potential for improving the reliability of the GABA estimation. The authors give a thorough background of the field ending in well-defined aims of the study. Furthermore, the authors have been very clear by describing every step carefully in the method section and considering potential explanations for the results in the discussion section. However, my main concern about this manuscript is how the results are presented, thus the figures and tables. If this presentation is improved, in combination with some clarifications to the following points, I think this great work could be published. Major Comments: 1. Please show all spectra and not just representative spectra. It is easier for the reader to see overall quality of the data acquired in this study by looking at all spectra, than just look at a spectrum chosen by the authors. This point is valid for both Figure 3 and 4, but especially Figure 4. 2. Please further clarify how the zero-order correction was performed. Figure 3 is not very well explained. Did you only use OFF data for the correction? (Line 172) 3. Why are not Table 1 and Table 2 in the same table with all the concentration ratios computed for all reference metabolite (as done with the water reference)? Alternatively, remove Table 2 because it contains 3 numbers that easily could be written in the text. 4. Table 3 is completely redundant because it is containing the same information that is described in Figure 5. Consider removing Table 3 and add these numbers in Figure 5 (maybe over each bar?) or simply just include these in the caption and text. 5. All figures (except Figure 5) are very blurry. If this is a consequence of the submission, disregard this comment, otherwise, increasing the figure quality will substantially improve the overall impression of this work. Minor Comments: • Methods: What type of water suppression was used? • Line 165: Consider rewording sentence “This nonlinear least-squares algorithm fits a time-domain model function, made up from a basis set of in vitro spectra, to in vivo data.” • Line 172: Something is strange: “The zero-order phase correction of in vivo MEGA-PRESS spectrum was estimated by fitting the tCho, tCr, and tNAA singlets in averaged OFF spectrum using AMARES algorithm (Fig 3).” • Line 248: what were the p-values? Reviewer #2: This manuscript describes the acquisition and processing of edited spectra obtained from the anterior cingulate cortices of 13 healthy volunteers. It aims to demonstrate a new approach to fitting edited spectra as well as to quantify GABA using both water and other internal metabolites as concentration references. The overarching aim, although not explicitly stated, seems to be to test whether there is superior reliability of the above approaches compared to the published literature. The authors have obtained some good quality spectra and have used a method for post-processing which is claimed to improve the precision of measurement. Introduction: It is stated that glutamate is involved in EVERY major excitatory brain function (referencing a 2000 review by Meldrum). This is a generalization and is not strictly accurate. There are other excitatory neurotransmitters which may act independently of glutamatergic neurotransmission and which also play important roles (without which the organism concerned will die, which suggests that they are probably playing major roles too). If the authors are referencing a review for the role played by glutamate, a more up to date one (e.g. Zhou and Danbolt 2014 or would be more appropriate as the field has moved since 2000. Several paragraphs are expended describing the basis of the MEGA-PRESS approach, which is already well documented in the literature and could be removed and replaced with suitable references without losing any understanding. It is important to note that calling both glutamate and GABA “neurotransmitter” is somewhat misleading. Only a very small fraction of the Glu and GABA in the MR spectrum is actually neurotransmitter while the rest of it is metabolic. Glutamate is the major contributor to transaminase reactions in the brain where it is used to maintain equilibria with other amino acids such as aspartate and alanine as well as to buffer the Krebs cycle. While all the metabolic glutamate can potentially become synaptic glutamate (and potentially thereafter a neurotransmitter) by far the biggest impact on glutamate levels is activity based and changes in the levels can be caused by many different factors. Similarly with GABA, it is now fairly well accepted that the GABA measured by MRS is mostly extrasynaptic. While it can serve as a neurotransmitter the mechanism for this is largely through tonic inhibition rather than synaptic. The point is that both of these compounds as not simply “neurotransmitter” and calling them this is oversimplifying, potentially misleading and something that should not be encouraged in the literature. While the goals of the study are stated they are to demonstrate that a method works and then to measure two other things. While these could be worthy goals it would be useful to state the purpose of doing them – what is the over-arching thing that the authors are attempting to achieve and what is the context? Are they showing that the method they are demonstrating is better than other approaches? Why are they doing the measurements? It is currently not clear. Methods: Please include the acquisition frequency (F1 – e.g. was the spectrum acquired at the GABA resonant frequency?) and whether the location of the voxel shown is at the frequency of the water resonance or F1) if this was different to 4.7 ppm? Was the voxel parcellated at the frequency of the water or the GABA? What was the water suppression method used? This can have some impact on the integral of the creatine and the NAA due to exchange. What was the rationale for zero filling the spectra to 8k data points? Does this impact the fitting at all? And were the MEGA-PRESS spectra processed offline? Were the blocks added on the spectrometer or in jMRUI (this may impact signal to noise depending on how it was done). P12 line 286 – it is stated that the size of the CRLBs reflects the accuracy of the concentration estimates. It should be noted that CRLBs, although often used as a proxy for error, actually only represent a measure of the goodness of fit of the algorithm to the data and as such are not predictors of ground truth. In order to be able to make this statement, the authors would need to know the actual brain GABA concentration. The water reference vs Cho.Cre reference differences may be an artefact of jMRUI, depending on how the postprocessing of the MEGA-PRESS spectra was done. Subtraction of one spectrum from another in jMRUI can give different noise values and interfere with the scaling. The unsuppressed, reference water spectrum would not be impacted by this. It is not possible to know if this is a problem here as the methods section does not explain how the post processing of the spectra was done. Minor points: P12 line 275, Applied PRESS method improved the ACCURACY of .. should be PRECISION instead of accuracy. Please be careful about use of words like “reliability” when you may mean “repeatability”. Suggest to refer to Bartlett & Frost Ultrasound Obstet Gynecol 2008; 31: 466–475 for a useful discussion of these terms and their correct usage. A paper has recently been published online in Magn Reson Med https://doi.org/10.1002/mrm.28587 which examines the repeatability and reliability of GABA measures in the anterior cingulate cortex For noting: The T2s of the relevant macromolecules have recently been published doi.org/10.1002/mrm.28282. and could be included in the calculations. 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