Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionJune 18, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-18786 Improved 3D cellular morphometry of Caenorhabditis elegans embryos using a refractive index matching medium PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Sugioka, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. You will see that Reviewer 1 raised a substantive concern about whether the correction of spherical aberration in deep sections can occur if the iodixanol is not penetrating the eggshell, and noted that the degree of improvement appears small. We would like to give you a chance to address this concern and other issues raised by the reviewers in your manuscript. Please also note that the statistical test used in Figure 2D, the first figure showing the improvement quantitatively, is a test that assumes a normal distribution of the data. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 23 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The manuscript by Xiong & Sugioka describes the use of a refractive index matching medium to increase the visibility of in vivo fluorescence images of C. elegans embryos in order to facilitate the analysis of cellular morphometry. Although there are some potentially interesting aspects to this study, I consider it fundamentally flawed and not worthy of publication in its current form. The eggshell of a C. elegans embryo is very impermeable and, as such, it is very unlikely that any of the iodixanol refractive index matching agent that was used will penetrate the embryo. This means that the only effect that refractive index matching the external medium will have is to reduce scattered light from the bathing medium/eggshell boundary. The claimed correction of spherical aberration in deep sections cannot occur. In Fig. 2 the authors compare two embryos with different refractive index bathing media. There is very little difference to be seen, and both images exhibit the tell-tale deep section axial expansion typical of spherical aberration. There is also little visible improvement of deep section images to be seen in Fig. 3. Given the intrinsic variability of in vivo fluorescence between embryos and the fact that different embryos were used in the comparisons, I am unconvinced by these data. There is a well-established way of reducing the spherical aberration from in vivo specimens that the authors do not mention, and that is to use water immersion lenses, where there is a reduced refractive index mismatch between cytosol and the lens immersion medium. I did find the author’s use of DIC microscopy to tune the refractive index of the medium interesting. As they demonstrate, this reduces the contrast extremes at the boundary of the embryo while maintaining the DIC contrast of structures within the embryo. This strategy might improve visibility of cells adjacent to the lateral sides of the embryo and thereby facilitate cell lineage studies. This simple technique might be worth developing into a technical note. Reviewer #2: Summary The authors of this study apply refractive index media matching (RIMM), previously reported in Boothe, et al. 2017 for other organisms, to imaging of C. elegans embryos. They empirically and quantitatively determined the RIMM by titrating different percentages of iodixanol into egg salts, a commonly used mounting medium of C. elegans embryos. Importantly, they demonstrate that the addition of iodixanol at the RIMM concentration is non-toxic to embryos. Using fluorescent C. elegans lines and confocal microscopy, the authors showed that imaging C. elegans embryos in RIMM can result in improved signal at deeper z-planes (further from the coverslip). This is presumably because the RIMM decreases spherical aberration or light scattering that occurs when sample and media have differing refractive indices. The authors subsequently demonstrated that images obtained with RIMM were more successfully segmented using 3D segmentation software than those acquired without RIMM. Finally, the authors used cellular morphometry from their images to show that the germ cell precursor P4 has increased sphericity, and therefore, likely increased cortical tension than its surrounding cell neighbors. Major comments How does tuning the RIMM under DIC conditions compare to other studies (Boothe et al.,) where phase contrast was used? I like that the authors used DIC imaging, because most C. elegans researchers image using DIC optics. However, the basis of matching the RIMM (according to Boothe et al., 2017) is minimizing the contrast in the phase images, and in DIC microscopy “Contrast can be varied instrumentally to suit the object” (Allen, David, and Nomarski, 1969). Does this present challenge in applying this RIMM across different microscopes with DIC or even on the same scope with the DIC adjusted differently? Due to results in other figures, it appears that it worked to tune the RIMM this way. Can the authors comment on the use of DIC optics vs. phase contrast for tuning RIMM? I do like the quantification of loss of contrast in the iodixanol series, as opposed to the highly estimated method used in the other papers. Minor comments Methods: In the Methods section, the authors mention that the embryos float in the RIMM (iodixanol) solution. Anyone who has previously worked with C. elegans embryos (which typically sink when mounting) would really want to know this. Thus, maybe mention of this could be made in the main text. Explain in Methods that Ostu’s method is thresholding (this is explained in the figure, but not in the Methods for some reason). The description of 3D segmentation using FIJI in the methods is very thorough. However, the 2D cell shape simulation description is incredibly minimal. Were there specific parameters or settings the authors used? For the statistical analyses, was any software used? Results: When reporting “(0% iodixanol: 98%, n = 154; 30% iodixanol: 97%, n = 148)” specify that percentages refer to survival (I assume). Figure 1: I understand the desire to have zoomed in views of the embryos, but ideally, there would also be images with many embryos visible in the different iodixanol percentages, not just a single embryo (or two) shown per condition. The viability of adult worms was not established. Can they tolerate the RIMM? This is relevant for longer-term imaging of adult C. elegans. Figure 2: I really liked that the authors quantified how well automated segmentation worked in the different conditions using ground truth cell counts. Discussion: “It should be noted that by coupling a RIMM and state-of-the-art 3D cell segmentation algorithms, such as RACE [24], 3DMMS [25], and BCOMS [26], researchers may obtain even better segmentation results than those shown in this study.” This is confusing – why didn’t the authors use these segmentation programs? What would “better” segmentation results look like? The last sentence really fizzles out - maybe the authors could strongly restate the important findings of the paper. Reviewer #3: In the manuscript by Xiong and sugioka, the authors systematically determine a refractive index (RI) matching solution for the imaging of C. elegans. This work builds from a previous study that introduced the used of iodixanol (OptiPrep) as a non-toxic method to increase the RI of various medias (Booth et al, eLife) and thus reduce spherical aberrations caused by RI mismatch that impedes fluorescent based imaging methods. Here the authors find that a 30% final solution of iodixanol enhances fluorescence imaging in C. elegans. Overall this is a well presented work that is useful for many using C. elegans as a model system. I have only a few issues that should be addressed prior to publication. Major suggestions: 1) The calculated Ri for the final solution is affected by the RI of the egg buffer (fixed at 1.33). Is this the actual RI of egg buffer? How critical is this? 2) On page 9, it is stated that “image quality is accessed. How is this done precisely? It seems to me that the absolute Histone signal (not only signal to noise) should be the same form each nucleus. How much loss is there in control vs. optimized? 3) The work here was completed using oil immersion. Do the authors expect a difference when using non oil (air, water, silicon, etc) optics? It would be helpful to make a comment on this. Minor suggestions: 1) There are figure legends embedded in the main text, please remove. 2) In figure 2C is would be helpful (more clear) if the images for converted to gra ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. 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