Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionMarch 31, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-09235 Chemical and molecular effects of diffusion-based iodine contrast-enhancing stains on fluid-preserved avian specimens PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Early, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The reviewers raised fair number of technical questions for you to address, please revise them one by one with highlight in you revised version. Please submit your revised manuscript in two weeks. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The present work shows how different iodine-based staining methods affect the staining results and materials of the avian samples in the diceCT imaging. The story and experimental details are clear. However, there are some points that need to be addressed. 1. Page 7, line 147 – 148: In the stepwise dehydration process, would it be better to start from lower EtOH content, for example, 10-20%? Starting from 70% EtOH will dehydrate the biological specimen fast and cause structural damage to the biological tissues. 2. Page 14, line 292-293, figure 4: It is hard to conclude that the soft and flexible tarsometatarsus is caused by the demineralization. The stiffness and hardness of biological tissues (bone, feather, skin…) can be affected by hydration. After stained with I2KI in RO water, the specimen is fully hydrated, leading to the decrease of stiffness and hardness. Just by bending the tarsometatarsus in not enough to verify the demineralization. Also, would it be possible to visualize the demineralization (i.e., pores, damages) in the micro-CT imaging? Is it possible to perform high resolution CT scan on the bones, and see if there are any changes of the structure? 3. Page 18, line 377-380, FTIR analysis. The content of minerals is more related to the intensity ratio, but not the integrated area under the peaks. The relative matrix to mineral ratio should be calculated from the ratio of the intensity of different peaks. The best way to verify and quantify the demineralization is TGA/DSC tests. 4. Page 20, paragraph 2: Again, the “firm” or “flexible” feeling of the sample is also related to the hydration state. In the staining with EtOH, samples are dehydrated completely, thus they will be “firm”. While in samples stained with water solution, samples will be more flexible. Reviewer #2: The paper is fairly well organized and clear. Different receipes of the staining were used and compared on the influence of the sample. Some minor issues addressed would enhance the paper. 1. some minor format problems in the paper, including paragraph format, scale bar in Figure 1 is barely visible, 2. words in the figure 7 is difficult to read 3. I tend to belive that it is an overstatement of the "molecular effects" in terms of the staining on the sample, the author may need to modify the title of the paper. Reviewer #3: The authors present an interesting analyses of current staining protocols for diffusible iodine-based contrast-enhanced computed tomography (diceCT) and claims a new recipe with elemental I2 in 70% ethanol that reduces demineralization during the staining process and gives high quality soft-tissue visualization at a shorter time scale. The authors have elucidated the molecular effect of iodine staining to find that amino acid modifications with iodine may be completely or partially irreversible. This study can provide crucial literature for museum curators and researchers looking to use diceCT on rare specimens. Therefore, this article can be accepted after revisions listed below. Major issues: 1. However, one data set from one bird specimen for staining I2 or I2KI in 70% ethanol is not sufficient to rule out artifacts. Particularly when more protein is observed after staining than before staining for I2 in 70% ethanol. This indicates that protein groups measured before staining and the technique involved could be inaccurate. The author does make a note of this and I am not an expert on preparation of samples for proteomics analysis, but repeat experiments with additional bird specimens can confirm the claims. 2. Repeat experiments are also required for demineralization analysis using FTIR since diffusion based mineral dissolution can often lead to different results if the chemical environment is modified or samples with different chemical compositions, mass or thickness are studied. 3. The authors report that I2 in 70% ethanol did not completely stain the interior of the bird specimen. Since, diceCT is a technique to visualize soft-tissue rather than bone structure which can be obtained without stain, it is imperative that all soft-tissue is adequately stained before any claims for the usefulness of this protocol are published. The authors suggest higher concentration of I2 in 70% ethanol can address this issue, therefore results from these experiments can support their overall claims. 4. Furthermore, the author has pointed out that staining using Lugol’s solution does not cause extensive demineralization in previous reports from literature. However, in the experiments presented in this article, the Lugol’s solution had the highest demineralization and the authors claim that the specimens in this study could have incomplete formalin fixation. This information does question the accuracy of results using ethanol solutions presented in this article. Therefore, the authors might find it useful to look into the protocols used in literature, check if the solutions were buffered at neutral pH and determine extent of fixation before staining. Minor issues: some typos in lines 39 and 279. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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Chemical effects of diceCT staining protocols on fluid-preserved avian specimens PONE-D-20-09235R1 Dear Dr. Early, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. 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Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: (No Response) Reviewer #3: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: (No Response) Reviewer #3: Partly ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: N/A Reviewer #2: (No Response) Reviewer #3: N/A ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: (No Response) Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: (No Response) Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors have addressed my comments adequately in the revision. The paper can be published in its current form. Reviewer #2: (No Response) Reviewer #3: (No Response) ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No |
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PONE-D-20-09235R1 Chemical effects of diceCT staining protocols on fluid-preserved avian specimens Dear Dr. Early: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Jinhui Tao Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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