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Original SubmissionMay 14, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-14375 Compound 21, a two-edged sword with both DREADD-selective and off-target outcomes in rats PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Carnicella, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. In particular, it will be necessary to (1) unequivocally identify the recorded neurons as dopaminergic and (2) respond to the issues concerning statistical power and analyses. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 08 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: In the past decade, the neurosciences has enjoyed a fascinating development of new tools for remotely controlling neuronal activity in freely moving animals. The DREADD system has received a lot of interest because of its simple application to behavioral assays, making it a potentially wonderful technology accessible to many laboratories in the field. Recently, concerns have emerged about the specificity of the inert ligands used to activate the DREADD receptors, casting some doubt on the validity of the results obtained with the DREADD technology. In the present study, Goutaudier et al have assessed the actions of a relatively new ligand (C21) in a well-characterized system for in vivo recordings: the midbrain dopamine system; and whether systemic treatment with C21 has the predicted effect on dopamine neurons expressing the inhibitory DREADD receptor hM4Di. My major concern about this study is whether the authors in fact record from dopamine neurons or not. There is a huge literature on the firing rate of dopamine neurons and the basal firing rate reported is unambiguously between 2-6Hz, depending on the level of anesthesia. In contrast, Goutaudier et al recorded from cells that fire at >20Hz and most likely represent GABA producing interneurons in the midbrain. It is unclear to me why the authors have disregarded the well-established criteria for identifiying dopamine neurons. Unfortunately, this intentional or unintentional mistake invalidates the conclusion of these experiments. The firing rate of interneurons within the midbrain may very well change as the DREADD receptor is activated specifically on TH-expressing dopamine neurons. This illustrate the complex synaptic circuit in the midbrain but not that C21 has unspecific effects. Reviewer #2: The aim of this study was to assess the potency and the selectivity of the Compound 21 (C21) to activate the receptor hM4Di in nigral dopaminergic neurons of TH-Cre rats in vivo. For this, the authors investigate two different concentrations of Compound 21 (1 and 0.5mg/kg) in rats expressing m-cherry (control group) or the receptor hM4Di in both males and females. C21 induced increase in firing rate of nigral neurons at higher concentration in the control group of males that disappears when used at low concentration. In rats expressing the hM4Di receptor, C21 at low concentration induced the expected inhibitory effects. In contrast, C21 at low concentration still induce off-target effects in female control group. Main conclusion of the study is that control groups and animal gender should be always considered when planning chemogenetic studies. I find the study of potential interest for scientist using chemogenetics tools for investigating behaviors and the underlying neural circuits with relevant information about off-targets effects that clearly can affect data interpretation, strength of the paper. The introduction presents the context and logically raises the main questions of the study and the results and methods sections are generally well organized, following a logic flow. Despite that, this study suffers a number of major and minor weaknesses that need to be addressed. Major concern: A) Small sample size. One major limitation in all experiments of this work is the small number of recordings from which the data are generated and conclusions are drawn. Considering the number of variables to compare (two different concentration of C21, control versus transgenic and males versus females), the firing values of the control groups and the variability of the firing between individual of the same group (e.g. different between males and females with the last group having a much larger variability) and the effect size, the number of recordings (the group that has the most is 8) are insufficient to classifying non-significant results as different. This is the case for the experiments on the female groups (both in the control group and the hM4Di-espressing group), one major result and conclusion of the paper. How the authors justify these sample size? Did they run any proper statistical power analysis on this study? Statistical power analysis should be provided to justify the sample sizes. If small sample sizes are justified by power analysis, then proper statistical tests should then be employed (see next point). If power analysis yielded larger sample sizes, then additional experiments should be conducted to achieve an appropriate power. B) Statistics. Even though the authors indicated in the method section the type of statistical tests used in the paper, this reviewer was unable to locate which data set has been analyze with which statistical test. Further, multiple different types of tests were employed with no justification provided for why using these tests (parametric distribution, similar variability, ect). Third, no statistical power is reported for the statistical significances reported here. Statistical power should be reported whenever statistical significance is reported for every measure. Fourth, with the very small sample sizes used here, t-tests should not be used. Instead, exacts tests should have been used with statistical power reported when statistical significance is achieved. Exacts tests are the proper tests for small sample sizes. C) The low resolution and the small size of the fonts of the two main figures make for this reviewer impossible to properly read graphs and numbers. The authors must submit figures with appropriate resolution and font size to facilitate data visualization. Addressing these critical points will give solid base to the results of this study to draw very much needed conclusions. Minor concerns: -the general tone of the paper on the results presented here should be tone down. Sentence as ‘We demonstrated here for the first time, to our knowledge’ (e.g. line 163, line 183) should be simplified to ‘here, we demonstrated…or the results indicate… -Lines 17-18. The introduction of the abstract should be smoother since tens of studies using CNO have been published and the off-targets effects are well defined. For example, the abstract may begin this way: Designer Receptors Exclusively Activated by Designer Drugs (DREADDs) represent a technical revolution in integrative neuroscience. However, the first used ligands exhibited dose-dependent selectivity for their molecular target, leading to unspecific effects. -Lines 52-54. It is important to mention studies that have identified proper concentration of CNO to reduce off-targets effects. -lines 80-81: the sentence ‘Before assessing the potential effects of 81 C21 on SNc neuronal activity by using extracellular electrophysiology (Figs 2 and S1)’ should be eliminated since these results will be described in the following sections. -Line 88 and line 140: the use of the sentence ‘no effect of time whatever the transgene condition’ should be re ********** 6. 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Compound 21, a two-edged sword with both DREADD-selective and off-target outcomes in rats PONE-D-20-14375R1 Dear Dr. Carnicella, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Gilberto Fisone Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): I encourage the authors to implement the last recommendations expressed by the referees (see Review Comments to the Author) Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Reviewer #1: Thank you for clarifying how the identification of the neurons are performed. I recommend that this information is added to the Figure 2. Although some readers are aware of these criteria, I believe it will guide a broader audience and avoid confusion if supplemental fig 3 is shown in the main part of the manuscript. My concern has been addressed in this version of the manuscript and I have no further comments. Reviewer #2: The authors answered posivitely all reviewers comments. It may be usefull if the authors create a supplementary table with all statistical tests, significance and power analysis . I believe it is important to make this infomration accessible to the reader since the type of data and their interpretation crucially depend by the comparisosn of the different groups. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No |
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