Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionJuly 29, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-22782 Sex identification in embryos and adults of Darwin’s finches PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Dobreva, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. Your study has now been evaluated by three reviewers. As you will see all reviewers find your work of interest but also raise a number of points that would need to be addressed before publication can be considered. Therefore, I return your manuscript to you for making a revision. Please, include with your revised version a detailed response on how your revision addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Dec 10 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Reviewer #1: N/A Reviewer #2: N/A Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The sexing of samples is a crucial step before performing, for example, differential expression analyses. Sexing embryos is achieved using gonadal morphology or the amplification of specific sequences from sex chromosomes. Visual sexing of adult birds might be complex too, particularly if males and females are not dimorphic. In this study, the authors used two pairs of primers that have been widely used to sex passerines to verify that they can also be used to correctly sex six species of Darwin’s finches (embryos and adults). The study is well-made and could be important to perform sex-specific studies in Darwin’s finches. Specific comments: Page 7, line 94: Please clarify in the Methods the number of embryos used for each of the six species. Page 7, line 96: Please use Celsius instead of Fahrenheit. Page 7, line 99: Please clarify in the Methods how many adults were captured for each of the six species. Also, please clarify whether the individuals were healed and immediately released after the blood samples were taken. Page 9, line 131: Please add the experiments, methods, and references you used to define that the nucleotide changes you highlighted on the primer’s sequences (Table 1) would “make them more specific to Darwin’s finches”. Figure 1: Given the limited number of embryos analyzed (29), why not showing the results of the PCR amplification for all of them? Currently PCR data for 17 embryos is displayed in Figure 1. General comments: Since the main objective of this work was to show that a modified set of primers could correctly sex embryos of Darwin’s finches, it would have been ideal to also show that the PCR banding would perfectly match gonadal morphology of the 29 embryos. PCR amplification in Zebra finch was used as a positive control, but, again, the sex of these embryos was not validated using an alternative technique. Strictly speaking, using the PCR results from other bird species as control may be insufficient since CDH1Z and CDH1W in Darwin’s finches may have followed gene conversion, gene duplication, gene deletion, etc. I understand that primers designed to amplify CDH1Z and CDH1W have been widely used to sex numerous bird species and sexing of Darwin’s finches in the study is likely accurate. However, it seems that validating the PCR results using gonadal morphology would have been the perfect control for this project. Alternatively, if gonadal morphology is no longer available, the authors could perform Sanger sequencing of a few PCR products and show that male amplicons correspond unequivocally to CDH1Z whereas female amplicons correspond to CDH1Z and CDH1W. Accurate embryo sexing is particularly important since the authors later explain that the error rate of sexing adults based on morphological traits is not negligible and, therefore, using morphological traits is also not a good control. Reviewer #2: PONE-D-20-2278 Sex identification in embryos and adults of Darwin’s finches. Dobreva and colleagues carried out a study involving molecular sexing in a range of Darwin’s finches species. The study brings an optimized set of primers, from previously described primers often used for molecular sexing in other bird groups. Jointly with modifications in some steps of DNAs extraction, the fast protocol proved to be an useful tool in accessing the sex information from hatchlings to adults of a group of birds that in most of the cases look alike. The study is worth to be published. I have only minor comments detailed below. Lines 94-97 Embryos from six species of Darwin’s finches were collected on Santa Cruz and Pinta in 2013-2015 (Geospiza fuliginosa, G. fortis, G. magnirostris, Camarhynchus psittacula, C. parvulus, and Platyspiza crassirostris) using previously described methods [37]. Briefly, the third egg of each nest was incubated for 7 days in the field at 100°F and 60% humidity. The embryo was then decapitated, immersed in RNAlater (Sigma-Aldrich) and frozen. Why did the authors incubate solely the third egg of each nest? Are the results different comparing with the embryos? Or is there some specific reason for this procedure? If yes, could the authors clarify it in the text? Lines 104-105 Embryos and fledged birds were sampled from natural populations under permits and according to regulations established by the Ecuadorian Ministry of the Environment and Galapagos National Park. Birds were captured and sampled under University of Exeter's Research Ethics Committee approval (eCORN000054). I suggest to change the sentence: “Embryos and fledged birds were sampled from natural populations” to “Embryos and fledged birds from natural populations were sampled”, once this may lead the readers to believe that all animals were sampled in field activities, but in the previous sentence the authors say that some samples were also obtained from the University of Londres, in the lines 97-98. Line 107 Embryonic DNA was extracted, with modifications, using the “alkaline method” described elsewhere [31]. I suggest to reword this sentence as: Embryonic DNA was extracted using “alkaline method” following the details described in [31], with subtle modifications. Firstly, a small piece of soft tissue… … Lines 204 - 205 Here, we applied the so-called alkaline method used previously on chicken embryos, with minor modifications [31]. I suggest to rephrase this sentence as: “Here, we applied the so-called alkaline method used previously on chicken embryos, [31] with minor modifications.” Since the modifications are not from the [31] study. Reviewer #3: The goal of this study is to validate the use of a modified set of PCR primers for molecular sexing of several Darwin’s finch species, including both embryonic and juvenile/adult samples. The authors have demonstrated that these new primers accurately identify sex, and may be a critical tool for various aspects of study, including conservation work. However, the justification for the development of new PCR primers is not clear. It was not clear if the widely used set of primers for CHD1, from which the primers used here are derived, failed to work in Darwin’s finches, as the citations used to support this simply say that genetic sexing does not work without any further clarification. Furthermore, another citation used the previous set of primers to sex juvenile tree finches. Finally, there needs to be more detail regarding how the primers were modified, including where the new sequence data come from and why the modifications to the primers were made. To conclude, while I think this is a technically sound paper, it failed to convince me that a new set of primers for molecular sexing was necessary in the first place. Line 27-28: “For birds with marginal sex specific traits, PCR results revealed a 13% sexing error rate.” Be more clear here that birds in the field were incorrectly sexed. In my initial reading I thought this meant the PCR didn’t work properly for 13% of individuals. Line 55: Should be 4-6 years? Line 81: Inappropriate “—” Line 83-86: Be more specific about why previous attempts at molecular sexing have not worked. Did previous studies use the same markers used in this study? Line 99: 567 adult individuals or embryos and adults? Line 111: “When no bands were visible, 4 μl of a 1:10 dilution in water were used for PCR” Unclear what this means. Line 115-117: Where did the CHD1 data for T. guttata and G. fortis come from? Is this previously published data or newly published data? What modifications were made to the primers? This is the essence of the paper so there needs to be a little more clarity here for how new primers were designed. Did the P8 primer not need any modification? Line 158: missing an “and”. Line 186: The beginning of the discussion begins with comparative transcriptomics, but this was never discussed elsewhere in the paper. Perhaps better to start off with a more general need for confident sex identification, particularly for developing embryos or species without sexually dimorphic traits. Line 228-229: Be more clear about how the methods used here improve on the failed methods of molecular sexing of the mangrove finch. Line 231: Citation format is odd regarding Griffiths et al. and then a different citation. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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Sex identification in embryos and adults of Darwin’s finches PONE-D-20-22782R1 Dear Dr. Dobreva, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. 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Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #3: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: N/A ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #2: This is the second round of revision and I carefully read the new version of the paper by Dobreva and colleagues. Dobreva and colleagues addressed the comments raised by the reviewers and at this stage I believe that the article is suitable to be published in PlosOne. I have no further concerns regarding the paper. With my best regards. Reviewer #3: Some minor grammatical errors remain such as misplaced commas, but the authors have addressed all my concerns so I am happy with the state of the manuscript. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No |
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