Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionApril 27, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-12261 DESS Deconstructed: EDTA as a viable preservative for DNA in biological samples PLOS ONE Dear Dr.DISTEL, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Both reviewers acknowledge the scientific potential of the work. To be accept the paper requires to be implemented with the technical adjustments indicated by both reviewers. Please submit your revised manuscript by June 30th, 2020. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The study by Sharpe and colleagues evaluated the influence of each component of the DMSO-salt (or DESS) on the preservation of high molecular weight (HMW) DNA purified from 3 aquatic organisms, known to have different fixation success rates. The experimental design is well constructed with at least seven tissue specimens for each organism fixed with DESS or with each DESS component (alone or paired) and analyzed at 3 different time points. Fresh and EtOH-fixed tissues are used as gold-standard specimens. The analyzed variable in the study is the % of DNA with 10kb higher molecular weight. The main results are i) all the fixative combinations comprising the EDTA (E) show a higher ability to preserve HMW DNA ii) DMSO (alone or without E) and SS (NaCl) are the worst fixative compounds iii) the clam worm fixation is the most complex and the less effective. All experiments and statistics are correctly performed, and the scientific English format is appropriate. However, some points have to be discussed and revised by the authors. Major points 1. The focus of the research is the qualitative and quantitative DNA assessment after different fixation periods. However, DNA quantification (in the form of total µg of purified DNA) is missing. Moreover, spectrophotometric measurement of the extracted DNA provides other qualitative parameters for the samples (e.g. absorbance ratios). No reports are present in literature about the effect of DESS fixation (and, consequently, of each component) on DNA purity. The authors should add these experiments to improve the novelty of the manuscript. 2. Beside a “fragmentation effect”, other fixative such as formalin can induce DNA sequence alterations, for example C>U deamination, leading to artifactual C>T transition. Do the authors have any evidences about DESS (or each component) effect on DNA biochemical structures? The authors sequenced the cytochrome c oxidase subunit I (COI) gene for taxa identification. The sequencing of the same gene in a subset of DNA specimens extracted from different organisms, solution components and fixation times can provide information about i) level of amplifiability of the DNA samples ii) presence of sequencing artifacts. Please, perform these additional experiments. 3. In the discussion lines 244-249, the authors described the choices behind the statistical planning, based on the limited cohort size. However, it can be interesting to assess the DNA fragmentation variation within the same type of fixation at the different time points for each independent organism. Please, implement these analyses and discuss them. 4. As discussed in lines 271-274, EDTA alone and EDTA mixed compounds are surprisingly the best fixatives in the study. However, little is known about the EDTA as a single fixative solution. In this context, what are the effect of EDTA fixation from a morphological point of view? 5. The authors obtained the % of HMW DNA from TapeStation capillary electrophoresis. However, none of the agarose gel images or electrophoresis traces obtained from the TapeStation were reported in the manuscript or in the supplementary data. The authors must load these data as supplementary or in a public repository. Minor points 1. Provide the amount of DNA used in each experiments (DNA amplification, TapeStation and Gel Electrophoresis) in the "Methods" section. Volumes alone are meaningless. 2. As for the sequencing analyses , please report both the concentration and the sequence of the primers used. 3. Add the sequencing instrument used. 4. In Figure 2, clarify the significance of the lower-case letters over the error-bars. These letters are absent in panel F. 5. Add more molecular ladder reference points of the molecular weight in the Figure 3, for increase the robustness of the image. Reviewer #2: Having worked in the lab where Seutin et al first developed, deployed and published this preservative almost 3 decades ago, and having used it on tens of thousands of samples across dozens of phyla all over the globe - i was most excited to see a breakdown of critical components of this recipe, and i was intrigued by the result. The authors correctly point out that a true multi-factorial investigation into this across time and taxa would be overly onerous, but there a few shortcomings of the experimental design worth discussing, and possibly noting in the manuscript to acknowledge limitations. First the time frame only extends 6 months. Second, stopping at measuring %HMWDR is not the endpoint of utility of most experiments - we proceed to next steps - and for some to many purposes, a low %HMWDR is not an indicator of experiment success (post-PCR or other genomic applications) - could be acknowledged. Third is the upper bounds and limitations of the measuring DNA quantity and quality using agarose gels and tapestation. For many applications, extremely HMW DNA is valued (de novo genome sequencing on long read platforms), and measuring size on a device like the Femto Pulse or similar would yield much more information - again, not a critical flaw, but could be acknowledged. Next, in the time series where results dipped once (typically A. virens) -they terminated subsequent measurements (keeping the fast/easy agarose gel visualizations) - this presumes that all samples in the series would behave the same and eliminates the possibility of exposing a spurious experimental result in an early time frame that would not persist. just for completeness, the original experimental design should have been completed as designed - we all hate gathering negative data knowingly, but it is still necessary. With a taxonomic sampling of 3 species (all aquatic invertebrates only - (another limitation that should be acknowledged) - in the end result - what buffer could I or should I use? - 2 of 3 say i can just use "E", but the downside is that 1/3 of the taxa tested actually did better with the original DESS (or ESS) than just E. If I go to the field to preserve a broad diversity of taxa and just take "E", what taxa won't preserve well? If I use DESS, i'll get 3/3, but if i use E, only 2/3. for unknown phyla - we wouldn't necessarily know a priori that E will suffice, and we know that DESS is broadly successful - so why change? this could all change if the experiments described here (worthy of publication as is) are followed up with next step experimentation - including PCR amplification of small (<1000bp), medium (1000-4000bp) and large (>5000bp) amplicon size fragments and/or genome sequencing on a long read platform to see what library construction effects there might be as a result of the differing preservation regimes. Why was the data from 3weeks and 6week time interval omitted? lines 264-265: I'm not sure i concur with the dismissal of a "marginal" improvement in extraction yield because overall extraction was poor for that taxon. in cases where taxa are knowingly going to be difficult - a marginal increase in yield or %HMWDR could be the difference between success and failure at next level experimentation. if adding D or SS are onerous (for all the reasons indicated, and simpler is always better), then it is good to know that just E will suffice most of the time (or for many/most taxa), but not always, and that would be important to know. The last sentence of the conclusion could be written by a skeptic to add "in 2/3 of aquatic invertebrate phyla". As a user of these preservation buffers, i think my takeaway is a bit more of: in taxa where I am confident there are no preservation issues, I can confidently use E instead of DESS, but if i have no a priori knowledge that E will suffice, then I am better off using DESS to be safe in the knowledge that I'll preserve SOME usable amount of HMWD to then recover it. For this reason, i would like to see a bit of a softening or hedging of the recommendation. When we spend all the time and resources to go collect and preserve biodiversity, we want to ensure those efforts will produce products that will persist. Finally - this focuses on individual, specimen-based, collecting efforts. Much work is moving into more environmental or mixed/multi-specimen efforts. A similar test conducted on a mixed sample to see what might drop out as recoverable from the mixture would be valuable. ********** 6. 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DESS deconstructed: is EDTA solely responsible for protection of high molecular weight DNA in this common tissue preservative? PONE-D-20-12261R1 Dear Dr. Distel, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. 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The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors replied to all the questions in a very efficient manner. In particular, the introductory summary concerning the manuscript modifications is surrounded by clear justifications and allows to understand all the subsequent confutations. As for the point 2, the authors commented that DESS is a preservative rather than a fixative. I agree, but the same authors defined DESS as a "fixative" in lane 64, page 3 in the first manuscript. They modified in this second turn of revision the term "fixative “with "preservative", to avoid misleading significance. I also agree to the reply of point 3, and I also suggest to design further studies to understand the effect on DNA fragmentation caused by different preservation times, solutions and taxa. As for the S4 figure size, supplementary data are unlimited, and in this case they can be useful as examples of TapeStation traces for other researchers focused on the study of tissue preservation / fixation. The manuscript is now more comprehensive, no other revisions are needed. Reviewer #2: The revised manuscript is a significant improvement and has addressed all concerns raised in the previous review. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes: Lee A Weigt |
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