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PONE-D-19-33731 Modelling the distribution of Mustela nivalis and M. putorius in the Azores archipelago based on native and introduced ranges PLOS ONE Dear Mr Lamelas-López, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. While reviewers agree that this is an important study, there are major concerns about study design and data analysis. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Feb 28 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This paper models habitat suitability in the Azores archipelago for two introduced mustelid species, Mustela nivalis and Mustela putorius. For each species, the authors fit two models: (i) one model fitted to a dataset of detections collected over the whole Europe (native range), and (ii) one model fitted to a dataset of detections collected only in the Azores islands (introduced range). For each species, the authors then compare the maps predicted by the two models (introduced and native), and show that the maps obtained with the two datasets are different. The map predicted using data collected over the whole Europe does not correspond to the map predicted using data collected in the Azores. The authors conclude that this difference indicates that species distribution models should be carefully interpreted when used to predict the range of a species in an area based on data collected in another area. As a whole, I found this paper well written. Their aim is interesting and I fully endorse their conclusion, i.e. that "factors that influence species distribution in the introduced range could be novel or differ from those in their native ranges (...). The difference might even be starker when the introduced ranges include islands while the native ranges are continental areas. Invasive species SDMs can be useful for the management of biological invasions but a careful interpretation is necessary and must be based on ecological knowledge". However I have concerns related to the statistical methods used in their paper. In addition, I think that this paper should contain more details on the approach used to fit the models, possibly given in supplementary data. It is presently difficult to judge of the validity of the analyses based on the information provided in the paper. My main concerns are: **** My first main concern is related the difference of scales of their two models (native and introduced). The concept of scale is an essential concept in ecology, and we should not expect to obtain the same results at different scales. For example, on a large scale, a savannah ungulate species might select areas close to water during the dry season, but on a small scale rarely use it rarely of the abundance of nearby predators. Thus large scale SDM might predict a high HSI for areas close to water, whereas small-scale SDM might predict low HSI for such areas. Similarly, I do not expect that differences between the distribution of a species over a whole continent with a very large diversity of climates, landscapes, human densities, etc. and the expected distribution in a set of small islands with a comparatively homogeneous climate and landscape to be automatically caused by the fact that the species is native in one place and introduced in another. This difference of scale may for example explain why "native" models predict wider range than "introduced" models. In my opinion, it would be more sensible to compare the Azores to areas with similar size and environmental characteristics (or at least as similar as possible) where the species is natively present. **** Another important concern is the use of a very heterogeneous detection dataset to fit the models. This dataset was built from various datasources including mainly GBIF and citizen science programs. As rightly noted by the authors, such data are characterized by numerous collection bias. Thus, species detection are generally more numerous in areas where there are more observers. For example, considering the Terceira island in Fig. 2 and 3, it is clear that most detections occur in places where there are most people (Angra do Heroismo on the Eastern side, Praia da Vitoria on the southern side). The same is true for data collected in mainland Europe. Thus, any model not accounting for these bias will be biased and predict high suitability indices in areas where there are both many observers and many animals. The only possible approach to SDM with such data implies a model of the spatial distribution of the survey effort. The authors acknowledge this point and indicate "presence records from these datasets may be affected by sampling bias, because they are often spatially biased toward easily accessed areas. This spatial bias can lead environmental bias given that the background data are usually drawn at random from the entire region [48]. Consequently, and according to Phillips et al. [48], we chose background data exhibiting the same bias as the presence records." However, the authors do not detail how they chose such biased background data. It seems that the authors have used the *target group* method of Phillips et al., as they cite this paper. This approach rely on the definition of a broad set of many species, chosen to represent the specimen collection or observation activities of collectors of the target species (so-called "target groups"). Is this indeed the method used here ? If this is the case, what are the species chosen for this target group ? Are the data selected from the same source? Moreover, the Azorean data were "cleaned" by selecting one record per squared km "to avoid a potential bias of spatially auto-correlated presences". I do not see how the method of Phillips et al. could be used with such a treatment: either (i) the same "cleaning" treatment is carried out on the background data (keeping one background point per squared km) and in this case, we loose the bias correction in the model (since the greater probability to find a detection at a given place is no longer reflected by the amount of background points at this place), or (ii) the same "cleaning" treatment is not carried out on the background data, and these data "overcorrect" the bias where the species is detected (since the presence data have a "cleaning" treatment that the background data do not have, and the species can only be detected once at a given place). I would like to see a map of the distribution of the points of other species used as background data, to have an idea of the spatial distribution of the survey effort. This is an important aspect for a SDM, as the fitting of SDM to such a biased dataset will focus only on parts of geographic space that contain presence samples. As noted by Phillips et al. "predictions into unsampled areas, especially those with conditions outside the range observed in sampled areas, should be treated with strong caution." This is an important warning given the aim of the paper: given the small sample size of data available in the Azores island, I fear that there are areas that are not sampled at all, and this map would allow to identify which predictions should not be trusted at all. **** Other methodological concerns are related to the small sample size of the data set used for the "introduced models": * Note that because the "introduced" model is fitted on a very small dataset (less than 30 detections), the number of variables in the model will necessarily be much smaller than the number of variables in the "native" model based on a much larger dataset (the sample size has a very strong effect on the number of variables that the AIC will select). This difference of sample sizes makes difficult the comparison of the structure of the two separate models (in particular, it is difficult to conclude anything concerning the fact that a particular variable is present in the "native" model and not in the "introduced" model). * Visual comparisons of maps in figure 2 and 3 are actually simply visual comparisons of point predictions by models. The prediction uncertainty is not accounted for in theses comparisons. Given the small sample size for "introduced" models, and given that some areas in the Azores islands seem to be scarcely sampled, this will probably lead to weak conclusions at these places. ***** Detailed comments follow: * Line 241--247. The description of the models is not clear. Would it be possible to present them in a table ? Presently, it is very difficult to understand which models have been compared. For example, the second model presented here is: "topographic + climatic + landscape variables (n=9) + topographic + climatic + human variables (n=8)". Here, "Topographic + climatic" is present twice ? I think that a more detailed explanation is required. * Table 2: for the model "M. putorius, introduced": what is the difference between the two models since both include the same variables? * line 282 : "For M. nivalis, one model was selected for both the native and the introduced range". Do the authors mean "one model was selected for each dataset" ? The selected model is indeed not the same for the two species. * line 281--290. It is not necessary to include the Akaike weights both in the table and in the text. * Table 4: there are several problems with this table, for the "introduced" models: the sum of percentage for M. putorius is >100%, and for Mustela nivalis, > 50% of the records are characterized with HSI<0.5, contrarily to what is written in the text. Reviewer #2: GENERAL COMMENTS This a well-written and potentially interesting study modelling two species’ distributions based on native and (insular) introduced ranges. However, some parts of the methods need further explanation or tuning, and the Discussion also needs improvements. It is also not clear where the species occurrence data collected by the authors are made publicly available. Figure 1 shows a substantial problem of survey bias, with some countries presenting a very high and other countries a very low density of occurrence records, without this reflecting the actual occurrence patterns of the analysed species. France and Switzerland are very clear examples of countries providing wildly insufficient data in this case, but even other countries like Spain and Portugal are clearly under-represented in the analysed dataset, compared to other data sources (at broader spatial resolutions) such as the national mammal atlases, which show that these species occur in many more areas than were used in the native range models. Moreover, this bias is not related to accessible areas, and it is unclear how the Maxent bias analysis deals with it. Other parts of the methods also need better explanation and justification, such as the limited variations in model parameters that were chosen for sensitivity analysis, as well as the limited method for model evaluation and selection. Recent specific literature on good modelling practices should be used for better tuning of model parameters. Figures 2 and 3 show very different (sometimes nearly opposite) predictions from native-range and introduced-range models. This needs to be explored and explained more clearly – and separately – in the Discussion. SPECIFIC COMMENTS Ln 20: I would add “archipelago” after “Azores”, as this is a relevant biogeographic feature which may not be immediately obvious to all readers. Ln 24-26: The current phrasing is confusing as to whether the “differences” are between species or between models. I suggest rephrasing to something like “We found differences in the predicted distributions of models based on introduced and native occurrences for both M. nivalis and M. putorius in the Azores”. Ln 32: It its not clear what “this” refers to. Ln 62: The Azores are more than one island, so “island’s ” should be “islands’ ”. Ln 55-59: This paragraph refers common mammals in the Azores, but most of the provided references are focused on birds. I miss a reference to the atlas of Portuguese mammals, which seems to be mentioned in acknowledgments but is not among the cited literature. Ln 69: “distributions” should be “distribution”. Ln 78: Overly long sentence. I would add a comma after “conservatism”. Ln111: Replace the final comma with a full stop and start a new sentence. Ln 144: “deliberately” should be “deliberate”. Ln 145: “or accidentally” is redundant in this sentence. Ln 163: Were these direct observations and sampling campaigns conducted across the modelled range, or centered on particular regions/countries? It would also be interesting to mention how many points were added by the authors to the data available in the open published datasets, and if these data were added to these (or to which) public platforms. Ln 164: How was this record accuracy assessed? Namely, which columns of the public databases were used for this filtering, and with which values? Ln 166: In this case, the bias was clearly not (only) towards accessible areas, but also reflected the habits of different countries in uploading occurrence records to the analysed databases. France and Switzerland, for example, have a lot of accessible areas but a tiny portion of records. Ln 168-169: More details are necessary on how this biased background sample was generated exactly, and a map of these background points should be included either in the article or the supplementary files. Ln 169: I would start a new paragraph at “The introduced...” Ln 173-174: Was this elimination of records within the same km2 really done only for the Azores? In that case, why (and why use “independent” also in Ln 177 for Europe)? Also, this elimination does not avoid (nor should it) spatial autocorrelation in the presences, but rather in the survey effort. Ln 177 and 269: Remove “the” before “Europe”. Ln 204-206: Which were the normal and the non-normal variables? Was Pearson’s coefficient only used when both of the variables in a pair were normally distributed? In any case, this seems like quite an unequal treatment of different variables, as the two coefficients have visibly different power. Do you have a justification or a reference for this procedure? Ln 223-225: The literature has evolved quite a bit since this reference of 2006, and a few more papers on “best practices” are available nowadays – including Araújo et al. 2019, which is in the reference list although I could not find it cited in the text; and others such as Sofaer et al. 2019 (https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/69/7/544/5505326). Also, two important references on Maxent modelling in particular are Elith et al. 2010 (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1472-4642.2010.00725.x) and Merow et al. 2013 (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-0587.2013.07872.x). This should be used to choose appropriate parameters sensibly, rather than just testing limited arbitrary choices. Ln 226-227: How are 25 and 30% “random test percentages”? Do you mean percentages of 25 and 30% of random test records? I also find this testing of two such similar percentages quite limited, and I find it surprising that a larger proportion of records left out for testing produced apparently better models. This may have to do with both percentages being so similar, and/or with the limited model evaluation procedure (see comment further down). Ln 228-229: The number of background points is among the main factors affecting model quality, so how did you select this particular number of points, and (especially) why was this parameter not subjected to the sensitivity analysis? Ln 230: What are the “total background points?” Ln 234-235: The AUC is not the best metric (especially if used alone) to choose between models, as it has relevant known problems (e.g. Lobo et al. 2008, https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1466-8238.2007.00358.x). Also, the AUC assesses the capacity of models to distinguish between presence and absence records, whereas the data and modelling algorithm in this paper imply presence and background (not absence, nor pseudo-absence) records. Even the reference that the authors cite for “best practices” (Ln 224-25) says that “multiple evaluation measures are necessary to determine accuracy of models produced with presence-only data”. Ln 235-236: The AUC actually varies between 0 (not 0.5) and 1; 0 means perfect discrimination but backwards classification, and it can happen when models are applied to external sets. Also, 1 does not mean “perfect accuracy”, but perfect discrimination (with correct classification). Accuracy would imply the correctness of the exact continuous values predicted by the model, whereas the AUC only assesses to which extent a model gives higher values (regardless of how much higher) to presence than to absence localities. Ln 236-239: This sentence is misleading, as some of the parameters mentioned (e.g. number of background points, type of features) were not subjected to sensitivity analysis, so you cannot include them in the “best parameter configuration”. Also, was this configuration selected for all four models tested (M. nivalis and M. putorius in Azores and Europe)? Ln 271-272: This is only a “validation” if the same field data were not used in model building. Ln 285-290: Here it is not clear what these model “weights” refer to, and why a weight of 0.86 is better than a weight of 0.99. Ln 291: “probability of […] occurrence” is not provided by a presence-background model such as Maxent. Do you mean “suitability for […] occurrence”? Ln 338-341: I don’t see how this is an “ecological” approach. Also, what is relevant is if the proportion of records in areas with suitability >0.5 is higher that expected by chance, given the amount of occurrence records and the amount of pixels available with suitability >0.5. These numbers alone do not prove anything without some assessment of significance, e.g. with a test of equal or given proportions. Ln 367: Add “more” before “widespread”. Ln 372-374: This is interesting, but it conflicts with the finding that the introduced range is actually more restricted than would be predicted by the native range, even without these competitors in the introduced range. The whole Discussion should separate and interpret more clearly the results of the different types of models. Figures 2 and 3: I’d suggest switching to a colourblind-friendly colour scale, as red and green are indistinguishable for a significant fraction of the potential readers. ********** 6. 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You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This paper is a review of a previous paper submitted to PLOS One. Its aim is to model habitat suitability in the Azores archipelago for two introduced mustelid species, Mustela nivalis and Mustela putorius. For each species, the authors fit two models: (i) one model fitted to a dataset of detections collected over the whole Europe (native range), and (ii) one model fitted to a dataset of detections collected only in the Azores islands (introduced range). For each species, the authors then compare the maps predicted by the two models (introduced and native), and show that the maps obtained with the two datasets are different. The map predicted using data collected over the whole Europe does not correspond to the map predicted using data collected in the Azores. The authors conclude that this difference indicates that species distribution models should be carefully interpreted when used to predict the range of a species in an area based on data collected in another area. In my review of the previous manuscript, I expressed several major concerns related to the methods used to reach the aim, as well as several minor comments. Many of my comments have been satisfactorily taken into account. However, I think that we disagree on my main comment: I think that the comparison between native and introduced models carried out in this paper does not allow to draw conclusions on the ability to predict introduced range from the native range, because of the very different scales of study for the two areas. It is possible that I was not clear enough, so that I explain more clearly below why I think that the metholodogy in this paper is very problematic. Moreover, the more precise description that the authors now give of the methodology used to correct for sampling bias raises another major methodological problem. I describe these two problems below. ****** ** On the concept of scale. In my previous review, my main criticism was related to the difference of geographical scales between the model fitted in the native range and the model fitted in the Azores archipelago. I expressed it in my previous review by noting that results may vary strongly between scales, and comparing a model fitted using data collected over continental scale and a model collected on a higly local scale is meaningless, as the two models are necessarily describing very different processes, so that they are necessarily returning different results. To this criticism, the authors replied: "we believe this effect is not affecting the model outputs because we used the same spatial resolution and the same data sources for both study areas." Actually, the concept of scale in Ecology is more general than just the resolution of the study (Dungan et al. 2002): the concept of scale involves many aspects (grain, lag, support, etc.). But in this study, the most problematic aspect is the extent of the study area, rather than its resolution. Dungan et al. (2002) illustrates clearly how the results of a study might change strongly when the scale changes. Another reference here -- a seminal one actually -- is Johnson (1980), who defines in the discussion four orders of habitat selection (first order: geographical range, second order: distribution of animals in a region, third order: distribution of animal locations within their home ranges, fourth order: selection of food items at the locations). The processes and preferences at a scale are not necessarily the same than those at another. In the present study, the authors compare first order selection (whole Europe) with second order selection (distribution within the islands). Many other authors have stressed the importance of this scale and variability of the results according to the scale considered (e.g. Pearce and Boyce 2006, Soberon and Peterson 2005). More concretely, here, any analysis of environmental variables classically used for SDM on the continental scale in Europe will mainly show large environmental patterns. For example, on a continental scale, the effect of elevation on the presence of a species will be driven by the differences between mountainous areas (the Alps) and other areas. That is, by the differences of weather, climate, vegetation, snow cover, etc. between Alpine and non-Alpine climates. Of course, other climatic variables will also account for it to some extent, but no variable will synthetize the difference between non-Alpine and Alpine climate as efficiently as the elevation (by definition !). Therefore, any effect of the elevation in SDM models at this scale will summarize the difference of environments (vegetation, climate, etc.) between Alpine and non-Alpine environments. Therefore, if -- for example -- a species is absent or rarer in the Alps than in the rest of the continent, it will be because the Alpine climate is less suitable for the species than non-Alpine climates (whatever the reason, e.g. too much snow in winter, rocky soils, etc.). This will be synthetized by a negative effect of the elevation in the SDM. On the other hand, the elevation, in the Azores archipelago, has a very different meaning. In these islands, high elevation areas are not characterized by a "more Alpine climate" than other areas. It has a very different meaning. In these islands, for example, there is probably a very strong correlation between elevation and the distance to the sea. So that elevation here rather represents this distance (e.g. further from the sea = less urban, etc. -- maybe a better habitat for the species?). Thus the meaning of elevation for the species is not the same, just because we do not work at the same scale. Of course, my example here describes a fictious species (I do not know what are the selection patterns for weasel and ferret at this scale), but it illustrates why results are expected to vary between two scales, even within the native range (e.g. the results will not be the same if we compare a model fitted on the whole Europe and an model fitted e.g. on similar sized areas in continental Portugal). The same is true for e.g. climatic variables. The effect of these variables on a continental scale will likely reflect the differences in densities between the different climates in Europe. If a species is less abundant in e.g. areas with continental climates (with less precipitation), then the effect of clim_bio12 in a SDM on a continental scale will mainly represent this large scale pattern. At the scale of the Azores Islands, this variable will not have the same meaning, as there is no continental climate in the Azores islands. Etc. If the aim is to predict the introduced range from data collected in the native range, it would make much more sense to compare this archipelago with areas *of similar sizes* located in similar climates, with a similar elevation range, etc. I suggested this approach in my previous review, but the authors replied: "We concluded that it would be difficult to justify selecting sub areas within continental Europe that would match the size of the Azores to conduct the analysis as suggested. This is because there could be an even bigger effect due to this selection than the potential effects of modeling a smaller area using information from a larger area." I do not understand why it would be difficult to justify it. I do not think that there would be a bigger effect in this selection. The authors have a very precise description of their study area according to numerous environmental variables (climate, elevation, etc.). It would be easy to select randomly numerous places of similar sizes in Europe. The standardized environmental variables (i.e. minus the mean and divided by the standard deviation) then each define a dimension in a multidimensional space (one dimension is the average temperature, one is the elevation, on is the precipitation, etc.). Each one of these random areas would define a point in this space. The Azores archipelago also defines a point in this space. Then, we can select a sample of -- say -- 10 random places with the smallest Euclidean distance in this multidimensional space to Azores. The resulting sample will be a random and objective sample of by areas taken in the native range with sizes and environmental conditions similar to the target area. This would be a better approach in my opinion: if the aim is to infer the effect of a factor on a process by comparing two sets of areas -- one with the factor and one without -- it is better to design the study so that only that factor varies and the other variables are identical. Here, to try to find one or several study areas in the native range with sizes and conditions similar to those of the Azores archipelago, with only "introduced/native" differing. On the other hand, as exemplified above, ignoring the effect of scale will lead to erroneous conclusions. The authors further note: "Further, we believe that this suggestion is not in line with other approaches to model invasive species ranges. Several authors have also modeled invasive species range from information retrieved from the native range (e.g., Broennimann et al., 2007; Fitzpatrick et al., 2007; Rödder et al., 2009; Bidinger et al., 2012); This is because invasive species are yet to be in equilibrium with their environment in the invaded ranges thus becoming even more important to include a broader set of parameter ranges from the native range to predict areas with potential for invasion." However, none of these works compare areas with so large size differences. Broenniman et al. (2007) predict the distribution of spotted knapweed in North America with a model fitted with data collected in its native range in western Europe, two areas covering similar sizes. Fitzpatrick et al. (2007) compare the distribution of red ants in tropical south America and tropical north America, again at similar scales and in similar climates. Rödder et al. (2009) study the slider turtle in their native range (North America), and the invasive range is also on a continental scale. Finally, Bidinger et al. (2012) studies the distribution of Harlequin ladybird in their native range in eastern Asia, and in their introduced range (area of similar size in Europe). I fully endorse the aim of the present study. From a conservation as well as ecological point of view, it is essential to find a way to predict the introduced range from the native range of invasive species. I agree on the importance of understanding how the introduced range might differ from the native range to identify how a species adapt to a new environment. I do not disagree on the aim, but on the method. The problem of scale is not a minor one in ecology. Comparing two areas of very different sizes amounts to compare a process at two very different scales. Therefore, different results are expected, even if there is no difference between native and introduced ranges. ****** ** On the correction of sampling effort. The authors rightly explained that the biased data collection characterizing the dataset would lead to to biased inference if it was not taken into account. They use the "target group" method of Philips et al. (2009) to collect a biased sample of background points exhibiting the same bias as the presence records. The authors did not describe clearly their approach in the previous version of the manuscript. It is now more clearly described. The "target group" approach of Philips et al. aims at distinguishing whether the absence of detection of the focus species at one place is caused by the absence of the species itself or by the absence of data collection. The idea is to define a "target group" containing many species for which we think that the collection or observation activities of collectors is similar to those of the focus species. For example, to model the SDM of a particular bird species in a citizen science program, it would make sense to use the whole set of bird species studied in the citizen science program as the target group used to select background points. The hope is that, at any point where data collection for the focus species has occurred, at least one species of the target group was present and reported by the same data collection (even if the focus species itself is not). So that the presence of a species of the target group and the absence of the focus species ensures that the absence of reported detection for this focus species is likely due to the actual absence of the species. This method allows to correct -- to some extent, it is impossible to completely account for all the bias in such contexts -- the collection bias because the target group is usually made of a large number of species, and at least one is supposed to be present where data collection has occurred. In the paper of Philips, for example, the target group contains from 7 to 52 species. In the present paper, the target group was defined by just the ferret and the weasel. This is a small target group! It means that any area unsuitable for both species, but where data collection has actually occurred will not be present in the data. The background sample will be defined by the set of habitat conditions allowing the presence of the weasel and/or the ferret (well, a biased sample of it, but this is the aim of the target group method to obtain such a biased sample of background points). So that modelling the presence of the weasel (resp. ferret) in a set of locations defined so that either the ferret or the weasel are present, is not a model of the species distribution. It is a model of the niche difference between the two species: the model predicts the probability of presence of one species given that at least one of the two species is present. So that the "native" model describes the niche differences between ferret and weasel modelled at the scale of the continent species, whereas the "introduced" model describes theses differences at the scale of the archipelago. In other words, the models do not focus on the potential distribution of the species as indicated in the paper, but on the differences between the two species. Which may be of interest, but is not the actual aim of the study. ****** ** References Dungan, J.; Perry, J.; Dale, M.; Legendre, P.; Citron-Pousty, S.; Fortin, M.; Jakomulska, A.; Miriti, M. & Rosenberg, M. 2002. A balanced view of scale in spatial statistical analysis. Ecography 25, 626-640 Johnson, D. 1980. The comparison of usage and availability measurements for evaluating resource preference. Ecology 61, 65-71 Levin, S. 1992. The problem of pattern and scale in Ecology. Ecology 73, 1943-1967 Soberon, J. & Peterson, A. 2005. Interpretation of models of fundamental ecological niches and species' distributional areas. Biodiversity Informatics 2, 1-10 Pearce, J. & Boyce, M. 2006. Modelling distribution and abundance with presence-only data. Journal of Applied Ecology 43, 405-412 Elith, J. & Leathwick, J. R. 2009. Species distribution models: ecological explanation and prediction across space and time. Annual Review of Ecology, Evolution, and Systematics 40, 677 Reviewer #2: The authors have addressed the concerns expressed in the previous review. The explanation and map provided in Appendix S1 make the procedure much clearer and more transparent, and the dataset provided in appendix S2 adds significant value and usefulness to the manuscript. All other supplementary materials also help make the methodology clearer. Although not everything was done the way I would have done it myself, I am generally satisfied with the current version of the manuscript and I believe the authors have appropriately explained and defended their work. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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